RE: Combining side-heads and full-span paras in the same document

2007-08-20 Thread Combs, Richard
Steve Rickaby wrote:
 
 When I try the first method, it fails to work despite 
 everything appearing to be correct. I think this is because 
 the sidehead property is a property of the flow [which I seem 
 to remember reading here recently], so that even though the 
 full-span master pages have been applied, FrameMaker ignores 
 their side-head settings.
 
 Is there a way around this so that I can get method a. to 
 work, or do I have to go with the more conceptually messy 
 method b.? [Or is there a method c?]

Yep, I posted about this on Aug. 2, so I'll just quote myself:

It's not clear from the FM interface (where you control side heads in
the text frame properties dialog), but side heads are a property of the
_flow_, not of the frame. IOW, if your flow has side heads on, then all
text frames in that flow will have a side head. 

The workaround for your situation is to modify the text frames on the
custom master pages you're using so that the side heads aren't evident.
Set the width and gap to some small value (and adjust total text frame
width accordingly), and maybe put the tiny side head on the right so it
doesn't affect the left alignment of headings that straddle the side
head. 

HTH!
Richard


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Re: Combining side-heads and full-span paras in the same document

2007-08-20 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Steve:

If I understand your request correctly, method c would be to use
paragraph formats set to Across All Columns and Side Heads for your
full-span paragraphs, with a flow that enables side head space.

HTH

Regards,

Peter
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On 8/20/07, Steve Rickaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The title says what I need to do. There seem to be two ways of doing this:

 a. Set up left/right master pages with a sidehead margin and separate 
 left/right master pages without sidehead space for the full-span settings, 
 then set up a suitable master pages ref table.

 b. Set up left/right master pages with a sidehead margin and a separate set 
 of full-span para tags for the full-span pages.

 When I try the first method, it fails to work despite everything appearing to 
 be correct. I think this is because the sidehead property is a property of 
 the flow [which I seem to remember reading here recently], so that even 
 though the full-span master pages have been applied, FrameMaker ignores their 
 side-head settings.

 Is there a way around this so that I can get method a. to work, or do I have 
 to go with the more conceptually messy method b.? [Or is there a method c?]

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 Steve
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Combining side-heads and full-span paras in the same document

2007-08-20 Thread Steve Rickaby
The title says what I need to do. There seem to be two ways of doing this:

a. Set up left/right master pages with a sidehead margin and separate 
left/right master pages without sidehead space for the full-span settings, then 
set up a suitable master pages ref table.

b. Set up left/right master pages with a sidehead margin and a separate set of 
full-span para tags for the full-span pages.

When I try the first method, it fails to work despite everything appearing to 
be correct. I think this is because the sidehead property is a property of the 
flow [which I seem to remember reading here recently], so that even though the 
full-span master pages have been applied, FrameMaker ignores their side-head 
settings.

Is there a way around this so that I can get method a. to work, or do I have to 
go with the more conceptually messy method b.? [Or is there a method c?]

-- 
Steve



Combining side-heads and full-span paras in the same document

2007-08-20 Thread Combs, Richard
Steve Rickaby wrote:

> When I try the first method, it fails to work despite 
> everything appearing to be correct. I think this is because 
> the sidehead property is a property of the flow [which I seem 
> to remember reading here recently], so that even though the 
> full-span master pages have been applied, FrameMaker ignores 
> their side-head settings.
> 
> Is there a way around this so that I can get method a. to 
> work, or do I have to go with the more conceptually messy 
> method b.? [Or is there a method c?]

Yep, I posted about this on Aug. 2, so I'll just quote myself:

It's not clear from the FM interface (where you control side heads in
the text frame properties dialog), but side heads are a property of the
_flow_, not of the frame. IOW, if your flow has side heads on, then all
text frames in that flow will have a side head. 

The workaround for your situation is to modify the text frames on the
custom master pages you're using so that the side heads aren't evident.
Set the width and gap to some small value (and adjust total text frame
width accordingly), and maybe put the tiny side head on the right so it
doesn't affect the left alignment of headings that straddle the side
head. 

HTH!
Richard


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Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
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Combining side-heads and full-span paras in the same document

2007-08-20 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Steve:

If I understand your request correctly, method c would be to use
paragraph formats set to Across All Columns and Side Heads for your
full-span paragraphs, with a flow that enables side head space.

HTH

Regards,

Peter
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Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices


On 8/20/07, Steve Rickaby  wrote:
> The title says what I need to do. There seem to be two ways of doing this:
>
> a. Set up left/right master pages with a sidehead margin and separate 
> left/right master pages without sidehead space for the full-span settings, 
> then set up a suitable master pages ref table.
>
> b. Set up left/right master pages with a sidehead margin and a separate set 
> of full-span para tags for the full-span pages.
>
> When I try the first method, it fails to work despite everything appearing to 
> be correct. I think this is because the sidehead property is a property of 
> the flow [which I seem to remember reading here recently], so that even 
> though the full-span master pages have been applied, FrameMaker ignores their 
> side-head settings.
>
> Is there a way around this so that I can get method a. to work, or do I have 
> to go with the more conceptually messy method b.? [Or is there a method c?]
>
> --
> Steve
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