Conditional text in index markers

[Fred Ridder]

Oops, sorry, misread the original question. Mever mind...



-FR

> Tom De Rouck asked:
> 
> > In Framemaker 8.0p277, does anyone know if it is possible to apply
> > conditional text to a part of the text in an index marker?
> > I want some of the text only to display in my online help version, so I
> > have a condition "PDF" and one "online-only".
> 
> 
> No, it is not possible to apply a condition tag within a variable's value. 
> You can only apply conditions once the content appears in the document flow. 
> For what you want to do, there are two approaches you could take, one of 
> which requires a slightly more complicated process when preparing to publish 
> to a given medium and the other of which requires more work up-front and 
> probably will be harder to maintain on an ongoing basis.
> 
> The first approach would be to use one variable name, but to redefine its 
> value for the appropriate medium as you prepare to publish by importing 
> variable values from a speical template file. I have used this approach many 
> times and it works well. And it only adds one step to the preparation for 
> publishing.
> 
> The second approach would be to define two different variable names with the 
> different medium-specific content, and to insert both variables tagged with 
> the appropriate text conditions instead of inserting just the single variable 
> name. The advantage of this is that you would only have to worry about 
> setting up the proper conditional text show/hide rules at publishing time, 
> but the downside is that you must take some steps to ensure that the 
> conditionalized pair of variables always get inserted together and that 
> neither of them ever gets deleted independent of the other. 
> 
> -Fred Ridder
> 
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Conditional text in index markers

[Fred Ridder]

Tom De Rouck asked:

> In Framemaker 8.0p277, does anyone know if it is possible to apply
> conditional text to a part of the text in an index marker?
> I want some of the text only to display in my online help version, so I
> have a condition "PDF" and one "online-only".


No, it is not possible to apply a condition tag within a variable's value. You 
can only apply conditions once the content appears in the document flow. For 
what you want to do, there are two approaches you could take, one of which 
requires a slightly more complicated process when preparing to publish to a 
given medium and the other of which requires more work up-front and probably 
will be harder to maintain on an ongoing basis.

The first approach would be to use one variable name, but to redefine its value 
for the appropriate medium as you prepare to publish by importing variable 
values from a speical template file. I have used this approach many times and 
it works well. And it only adds one step to the preparation for publishing.

The second approach would be to define two different variable names with the 
different medium-specific content, and to insert both variables tagged with the 
appropriate text conditions instead of inserting just the single variable name. 
The advantage of this is that you would only have to worry about setting up the 
proper conditional text show/hide rules at publishing time, but the downside is 
that you must take some steps to ensure that the conditionalized pair of 
variables always get inserted together and that neither of them ever gets 
deleted independent of the other. 

-Fred Ridder

Conditional text in index markers

[Martinek, Carla]

Not an option, as far as I know. Instead, I would create two separate
index markers and conditionalize them.

Use of a plugin such as MarkerWorker might help you in maintaining the
content of markers like this.

-Carla



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Hello Framers, 

In Framemaker 8.0p277, does anyone know if it is possible to apply
conditional text to a part of the text in an index marker?
I want some of the text only to display in my online help version, so I
have a condition "PDF" and one "online-only".

thanks for your help!

regards,
Tom

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RE: Conditional text in index markers

[Fred Ridder]

Oops, sorry, misread the original question. Mever mind...

 

-FR

> Tom De Rouck asked:
> 
> > In Framemaker 8.0p277, does anyone know if it is possible to apply
> > conditional text to a part of the text in an index marker?
> > I want some of the text only to display in my online help version, so I
> > have a condition "PDF" and one "online-only".
> 
> 
> No, it is not possible to apply a condition tag within a variable's value. 
> You can only apply conditions once the content appears in the document flow. 
> For what you want to do, there are two approaches you could take, one of 
> which requires a slightly more complicated process when preparing to publish 
> to a given medium and the other of which requires more work up-front and 
> probably will be harder to maintain on an ongoing basis.
> 
> The first approach would be to use one variable name, but to redefine its 
> value for the appropriate medium as you prepare to publish by importing 
> variable values from a speical template file. I have used this approach many 
> times and it works well. And it only adds one step to the preparation for 
> publishing.
> 
> The second approach would be to define two different variable names with the 
> different medium-specific content, and to insert both variables tagged with 
> the appropriate text conditions instead of inserting just the single variable 
> name. The advantage of this is that you would only have to worry about 
> setting up the proper conditional text show/hide rules at publishing time, 
> but the downside is that you must take some steps to ensure that the 
> conditionalized pair of variables always get inserted together and that 
> neither of them ever gets deleted independent of the other. 
> 
> -Fred Ridder
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Conditional text in index markers

[Scott Prentice]

Our MarkerTools plugin allows you to add "variables" to marker text. 
This adds some overhead to your workflow, but it does provide a 
"conditional-like" functionality ..

http://leximation.com/tools/info/markertools.php

Cheers,

...scott

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Fred Ridder wrote:
> Tom De Rouck asked:
>
>   
>> In Framemaker 8.0p277, does anyone know if it is possible to apply
>> conditional text to a part of the text in an index marker?
>> I want some of the text only to display in my online help version, so I
>> have a condition "PDF" and one "online-only".
>> 
>
>
> No, it is not possible to apply a condition tag within a variable's value. 
> You can only apply conditions once the content appears in the document flow. 
> For what you want to do, there are two approaches you could take, one of 
> which requires a slightly more complicated process when preparing to publish 
> to a given medium and the other of which requires more work up-front and 
> probably will be harder to maintain on an ongoing basis.
>
> The first approach would be to use one variable name, but to redefine its 
> value for the appropriate medium as you prepare to publish by importing 
> variable values from a speical template file. I have used this approach many 
> times and it works well. And it only adds one step to the preparation for 
> publishing.
>
> The second approach would be to define two different variable names with the 
> different medium-specific content, and to insert both variables tagged with 
> the appropriate text conditions instead of inserting just the single variable 
> name. The advantage of this is that you would only have to worry about 
> setting up the proper conditional text show/hide rules at publishing time, 
> but the downside is that you must take some steps to ensure that the 
> conditionalized pair of variables always get inserted together and that 
> neither of them ever gets deleted independent of the other. 
>
> -Fred Ridder
>
>  
>
>  
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Conditional text in index markers

[Scott Prentice]

Our MarkerTools plugin allows you to add "variables" to marker text. 
This adds some overhead to your workflow, but it does provide a 
"conditional-like" functionality ..

http://leximation.com/tools/info/markertools.php

Cheers,

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892



Fred Ridder wrote:
> Tom De Rouck asked:
>
>   
>> In Framemaker 8.0p277, does anyone know if it is possible to apply
>> conditional text to a part of the text in an index marker?
>> I want some of the text only to display in my online help version, so I
>> have a condition "PDF" and one "online-only".
>> 
>
>
> No, it is not possible to apply a condition tag within a variable's value. 
> You can only apply conditions once the content appears in the document flow. 
> For what you want to do, there are two approaches you could take, one of 
> which requires a slightly more complicated process when preparing to publish 
> to a given medium and the other of which requires more work up-front and 
> probably will be harder to maintain on an ongoing basis.
>
> The first approach would be to use one variable name, but to redefine its 
> value for the appropriate medium as you prepare to publish by importing 
> variable values from a speical template file. I have used this approach many 
> times and it works well. And it only adds one step to the preparation for 
> publishing.
>
> The second approach would be to define two different variable names with the 
> different medium-specific content, and to insert both variables tagged with 
> the appropriate text conditions instead of inserting just the single variable 
> name. The advantage of this is that you would only have to worry about 
> setting up the proper conditional text show/hide rules at publishing time, 
> but the downside is that you must take some steps to ensure that the 
> conditionalized pair of variables always get inserted together and that 
> neither of them ever gets deleted independent of the other. 
>
> -Fred Ridder
>
>  
>
>  

RE: Conditional text in index markers

[Martinek, Carla]

Not an option, as far as I know. Instead, I would create two separate
index markers and conditionalize them.

Use of a plugin such as MarkerWorker might help you in maintaining the
content of markers like this.

-Carla

 

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Hello Framers, 
 
In Framemaker 8.0p277, does anyone know if it is possible to apply
conditional text to a part of the text in an index marker?
I want some of the text only to display in my online help version, so I
have a condition "PDF" and one "online-only".
 
thanks for your help!
 
regards,
Tom
 
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RE: Conditional text in index markers

[Fred Ridder]

Tom De Rouck asked:

> In Framemaker 8.0p277, does anyone know if it is possible to apply
> conditional text to a part of the text in an index marker?
> I want some of the text only to display in my online help version, so I
> have a condition "PDF" and one "online-only".


No, it is not possible to apply a condition tag within a variable's value. You 
can only apply conditions once the content appears in the document flow. For 
what you want to do, there are two approaches you could take, one of which 
requires a slightly more complicated process when preparing to publish to a 
given medium and the other of which requires more work up-front and probably 
will be harder to maintain on an ongoing basis.

The first approach would be to use one variable name, but to redefine its value 
for the appropriate medium as you prepare to publish by importing variable 
values from a speical template file. I have used this approach many times and 
it works well. And it only adds one step to the preparation for publishing.

The second approach would be to define two different variable names with the 
different medium-specific content, and to insert both variables tagged with the 
appropriate text conditions instead of inserting just the single variable name. 
The advantage of this is that you would only have to worry about setting up the 
proper conditional text show/hide rules at publishing time, but the downside is 
that you must take some steps to ensure that the conditionalized pair of 
variables always get inserted together and that neither of them ever gets 
deleted independent of the other. 

-Fred Ridder

 

 
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Conditional text in index markers

[de Rouck, Tom (Gent)]

Hello Framers, 
 
In Framemaker 8.0p277, does anyone know if it is possible to apply
conditional text to a part of the text in an index marker?
I want some of the text only to display in my online help version, so I
have a condition "PDF" and one "online-only".
 
thanks for your help!
 
regards, 
Tom
 

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[de Rouck, Tom (Gent)]

Hello Framers, 

In Framemaker 8.0p277, does anyone know if it is possible to apply
conditional text to a part of the text in an index marker?
I want some of the text only to display in my online help version, so I
have a condition "PDF" and one "online-only".

thanks for your help!

regards, 
Tom


Tom De Rouck

SGS Documentation Services
Technical Writer


SGS Belgium NV

Derbystraat 243
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Phone:  +32 (0)9 242 81 77

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