Creating cross-document links (external cross references) in FM that are fully functional in PDF output

2012-04-19 Thread Shlomo Perets
Jody,

You wrote:

>I am hoping to create cross-document? links (external cross references)
>in FM that are fully functional when we run our PDFs.
>
>Standard cross references don't meet our needs because it is important
>for our links to be relative links rather than absolute links, so that
>we can move our PDFs from where they are creaated to the distribution
>folders. To create relative links that work in our PDF output, I
>create a hypertext link pointing to the PDF version of the manual I am
>referencing as follows (it is important to know the NAME of that PDF
>file ahead of time):
>  * Create a hypertext link where Command = Message Client.
>  * Use this syntax: message openfile ..//
...

message openfile filename will only open the target PDF at the default 
opening page, and cannot be adjusted to open a specific destination in the 
PDF file.

To create cross-document links that open the target PDF at a specific 
destination, cross-references or gotolink/newlink hypertext markers can be 
used.
There is no difference between the two methods with respect to 
absolute/relative path, but there are quite a few aspects you need to know 
in advance and control accordingly-- target file name and path of the end 
deliverables, book vs. chapter destination, output methods (and testing the 
end-result is always recommended).


Shlomo Perets

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Re:Creating cross-document links (external cross references) in FM that are fully functional in PDF output

2012-04-19 Thread Shlomo Perets

Jody,

You wrote:


I am hoping to create cross-document links (external cross references)
in FM that are fully functional when we run our PDFs.

Standard cross references don't meet our needs because it is important
for our links to be relative links rather than absolute links, so that
we can move our PDFs from where they are creaated to the distribution
folders. To create relative links that work in our PDF output, I
create a hypertext link pointing to the PDF version of the manual I am
referencing as follows (it is important to know the NAME of that PDF
file ahead of time):
 * Create a hypertext link where Command = Message Client.
 * Use this syntax: message openfile ..//

...

message openfile filename will only open the target PDF at the default 
opening page, and cannot be adjusted to open a specific destination in the 
PDF file.


To create cross-document links that open the target PDF at a specific 
destination, cross-references or gotolink/newlink hypertext markers can be 
used.
There is no difference between the two methods with respect to 
absolute/relative path, but there are quite a few aspects you need to know 
in advance and control accordingly-- target file name and path of the end 
deliverables, book vs. chapter destination, output methods (and testing the 
end-result is always recommended).



Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
FrameMaker/TCS training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat Advanced Techniques * 
FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants


1-Hour Webinars (free; starting 10am PT)
* Better PDFs with FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers, April 19 
https://www3.gotomeeting.com/register/742255574
* Liven Up Your PDFs with FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants, May 1 
https://www3.gotomeeting.com/register/285654806



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Creating cross-document links (external cross references) in FM that are fully functional in PDF output

2012-04-18 Thread Jody Kemp
I am hoping to create cross-document links (external cross references) in FM 
that are fully functional when we run our PDFs.
Standard cross references don't meet our needs because it is important for our 
links to be relative links rather than absolute links, so that we can move our 
PDFs from where they are creaated to the distribution folders.  To create 
relative links that work in our PDF output, I create a hypertext link pointing 
to the PDF version of the manual I am referencing as follows (it is important 
to know the NAME of that PDF file ahead of time):
 * Create a hypertext link where Command = Message Client.
 * Use this syntax: message openfile ..//
      where   is the folder wherein both the originating PDF and 
the PDF being called are stored, and
  where  is the filename and extension (e.g., document.pdf) of 
the PDF being called
This creates great links that bounce you from document to document, provided 
all the pdf's are stored together in the same folder. Just what we need!
HOWEVER... what I REALLY need to do is figure out how to create a hypertext 
link that not only opens the target PDF, but takes me to the location WITHIN 
the target document that I need.
 Does anyone know how I modify the syntax of the hypertext to do this?
I thought of using bookmarks, but the PDF conversion process adds weird stuff 
to bookmarks, and I don't understand what is behind how bookmarks are 
converted/named. Can anyone enlighten me about this? Is there a pattern I don’t 
understand?
Thanks!
Jody Kemp


Jody L. Kemp | Senior Technical Writer, Product Management | Accela, Inc. | 
(925) 659-3225
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Creating cross-document links (external cross references) in FM that are fully functional in PDF output

2012-04-17 Thread Jody Kemp
I am hoping to create cross-document links (external cross references) in FM 
that are fully functional when we run our PDFs.
Standard cross references don't meet our needs because it is important for our 
links to be relative links rather than absolute links, so that we can move our 
PDFs from where they are creaated to the distribution folders.  To create 
relative links that work in our PDF output, I create a hypertext link pointing 
to the PDF version of the manual I am referencing as follows (it is important 
to know the NAME of that PDF file ahead of time):
 * Create a hypertext link where Command = Message Client.
 * Use this syntax: message openfile ..//
   ?   where   is the folder wherein both the originating PDF and 
the PDF being called are stored, and
  where  is the filename and extension (e.g., document.pdf) of 
the PDF being called
This creates great links that bounce you from document to document, provided 
all the pdf's are stored together in the same folder. Just what we need!
HOWEVER... what I REALLY need to do is figure out how to create a hypertext 
link that not only opens the target PDF, but takes me to the location WITHIN 
the target document that I need.
 Does anyone know how I modify the syntax of the hypertext to do this?
I thought of using bookmarks, but the PDF conversion process adds weird stuff 
to bookmarks, and I don't understand what is behind how bookmarks are 
converted/named. Can anyone enlighten me about this? Is there a pattern I don?t 
understand?
Thanks!
Jody Kemp


Jody L. Kemp | Senior Technical Writer, Product Management | Accela, Inc. | 
(925) 659-3225
Accela, making governments easier, faster and more accessible

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Cross-references in FM

2006-08-07 Thread rebecca officer
Yep, use hypertext links instead of xrefs. To make a link, first make
the target, then create the link.

To create target:
1. place insertion point at destination 
2. select Special > Hypertext 
3. select Command > Specify Named Destination 
4. after "newlink " type a  (must be unique within .fm file)

5. click New Hypertext Marker

To create link:
1. select the text you want to be able to click on, and tag it with
Link character tag 
2. select Special > Hypertext 
3. select Command > Jump to Named Destination 
4. after "gotolink " type  (if in same .fm file) or
: (if in another .fm file) 
5. click New Hypertext Marker

To test link, Ctrl-Alt-Click on it. If it doesn?t work, check:
- the  is the same in target and link markers
- the link marker is tagged Link character tag, same as the link text.

Cheers, Rebecca

>>> Shmuel Wolfson  7/08/06 03:39 >>>
Is there a way in FM to mark a term and cross-references to that term 
(without the entire paragraph)?

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Shmuel Wolfson

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Cross-references in FM

2006-08-06 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Is there a way in FM to mark a term and cross-reference to that term 
(without the quoting the entire paragraph)?

-- 
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson




Cross-references in FM

2006-08-06 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Is there a way in FM to mark a term and cross-references to that term 
(without the entire paragraph)?

-- 
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson




Re: Cross-references in FM

2006-08-06 Thread rebecca officer
Yep, use hypertext links instead of xrefs. To make a link, first make
the target, then create the link.

To create target:
1. place insertion point at destination 
2. select Special > Hypertext 
3. select Command > Specify Named Destination 
4. after "newlink " type a  (must be unique within .fm file)

5. click New Hypertext Marker

To create link:
1. select the text you want to be able to click on, and tag it with
Link character tag 
2. select Special > Hypertext 
3. select Command > Jump to Named Destination 
4. after "gotolink " type  (if in same .fm file) or
: (if in another .fm file) 
5. click New Hypertext Marker

To test link, Ctrl-Alt-Click on it. If it doesn’t work, check:
- the  is the same in target and link markers
- the link marker is tagged Link character tag, same as the link text.

Cheers, Rebecca

>>> Shmuel Wolfson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/08/06 03:39 >>>
Is there a way in FM to mark a term and cross-references to that term 
(without the entire paragraph)?

-- 
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson

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>>> Shmuel Wolfson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/08/06 03:39 >>>
Is there a way in FM to mark a term and cross-references to that term 
(without the entire paragraph)?

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Shmuel Wolfson
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Cross-references in FM

2006-08-06 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Is there a way in FM to mark a term and cross-reference to that term 
(without the quoting the entire paragraph)?


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Cross-references in FM

2006-08-06 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Is there a way in FM to mark a term and cross-references to that term 
(without the entire paragraph)?


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Shmuel Wolfson

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