Re: FM8 Bug: Lines not breaking after em dash and en dash
Am 15.12.2007 um 23:20 schrieb Michael Müller-Hillebrand: I tried your scenario with 8.p266 and there are no problems: The characters you mention are correctly changed from 7.2 \= and \m in FM8 to their real appearance: – and — (not seen in monospaced fonts) and work as advertised. Oops, my statement resulted out of a (late night) abbreviated test: If the settings are correct in an FM72 file it will be opened okay and without changes of paragraph layout in FM8. But – as you noted – any change to a paragraph or any change to the Text Option setting regarding the en and em dash is not applied correctly. That qualifies the behaviour as a bug (most probably related to the Unicode implementation). - Michael Müller-Hillebrand -- ___ Michael Müller-Hillebrand: Dokumentations-Technologien Adobe Certified Expert, FrameMaker Lösungen und Training, FrameScript, XML/XSL, Unicode http://cap-studio.de/ -- Tel. +49 (9131) 28747 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM8 Bug: Lines not breaking after em dash and en dash
Am 15.12.2007 um 23:20 schrieb Michael M?ller-Hillebrand: > I tried your scenario with 8.p266 and there are no problems: The > characters you mention are correctly changed from 7.2 \= and \m in > FM8 to their "real" appearance: ? and ? (not seen in monospaced > fonts) and work as advertised. Oops, my statement resulted out of a (late night) abbreviated test: If the settings are correct in an FM72 file it will be opened okay and without changes of paragraph layout in FM8. But ? as you noted ? any change to a paragraph or any change to the Text Option setting regarding the en and em dash is not applied correctly. That qualifies the behaviour as a bug (most probably related to the Unicode implementation). - Michael M?ller-Hillebrand -- ___ Michael M?ller-Hillebrand: Dokumentations-Technologien Adobe Certified Expert, FrameMaker L?sungen und Training, FrameScript, XML/XSL, Unicode http://cap-studio.de/ -- Tel. +49 (9131) 28747
Re: FM8 Bug: Lines not breaking after em dash and en dash
Hi Mike, Yes, I'm seeing this too. I just noticed it a few days ago, and FWIW, I have the patch from late November (8.0p266). Lydia Lydia Wong Technical Consultant/Technical Trainer Scriptorium Publishing, Inc. www.scriptorium.com Mike Wickham wrote: Is anyone else seeing this? In FM8 Format Document Text Options, I have Allow Line Breaks After set to forward slash, hyphen, en dash, and em dash. I believe these are the default values. Lines break after a slash or hyphen, but not after either em or en dashes. It has caused reflow in documents originally created in FM7.1. Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM8 Bug: Lines not breaking after em dash and en dash
Am 14.12.2007 um 22:06 schrieb Mike Wickham: Is anyone else seeing this? In FM8 Format Document Text Options, I have Allow Line Breaks After set to forward slash, hyphen, en dash, and em dash. I believe these are the default values. Lines break after a slash or hyphen, but not after either em or en dashes. It has caused reflow in documents originally created in FM7.1. It wasn't mentioned like this by Adobe, but FrameMaker 8 is the biggest change in FrameMaker versions since maybe version 4 to 5. The differences are still minor compared to what happens with other tools between versions... When changing versions, everyone should be prepared to do some work with their templates, fonts, existing documents etc. The problem you mention could be connected to an error when opening previous versions files. The original release had a problem with text in auto-numbers that contained non-ASCII characters which has been fixed with 8.0p266. Of course, that change applies only to documents opened with the latest release. I tried your scenario with 8.p266 and there are no problems: The characters you mention are correctly changed from 7.2 \= and \m in FM8 to their real appearance: – and — (not seen in monospaced fonts) and work as advertised. Could it be you either have the previous version or are looking at files which have been opened by the previous version? - Michael -- ___ Michael Müller-Hillebrand: Dokumentations-Technologien Adobe Certified Expert, FrameMaker Lösungen und Training, FrameScript, XML/XSL, Unicode http://cap-studio.de/ -- Tel. +49 (9131) 28747 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM8 Bug: Lines not breaking after em dash and en dash
Hi Mike, Yes, I'm seeing this too. I just noticed it a few days ago, and FWIW, I have the patch from late November (8.0p266). Lydia Lydia Wong Technical Consultant/Technical Trainer Scriptorium Publishing, Inc. www.scriptorium.com Mike Wickham wrote: > Is anyone else seeing this? In FM8 Format> Document> Text Options, I have > "Allow Line Breaks After" set to forward slash, hyphen, en dash, and em > dash. I believe these are the default values. Lines break after a slash or > hyphen, but not after either em or en dashes. It has caused reflow in > documents originally created in FM7.1. > > Mike Wickham >
FM8 Bug: Lines not breaking after em dash and en dash
Am 14.12.2007 um 22:06 schrieb Mike Wickham: > Is anyone else seeing this? In FM8 Format> Document> Text Options, > I have > "Allow Line Breaks After" set to forward slash, hyphen, en dash, > and em > dash. I believe these are the default values. Lines break after a > slash or > hyphen, but not after either em or en dashes. It has caused reflow in > documents originally created in FM7.1. It wasn't mentioned like this by Adobe, but FrameMaker 8 is the biggest change in FrameMaker versions since maybe version 4 to 5. The differences are still minor compared to what happens with other tools between versions... When changing versions, everyone should be prepared to do some work with their templates, fonts, existing documents etc. The problem you mention could be connected to an error when opening previous versions files. The original release had a problem with text in auto-numbers that contained non-ASCII characters which has been fixed with 8.0p266. Of course, that change applies only to documents opened with the latest release. I tried your scenario with 8.p266 and there are no problems: The characters you mention are correctly changed from 7.2 \= and \m in FM8 to their "real" appearance: ? and ? (not seen in monospaced fonts) and work as advertised. Could it be you either have the previous version or are looking at files which have been opened by the previous version? - Michael -- ___ Michael M?ller-Hillebrand: Dokumentations-Technologien Adobe Certified Expert, FrameMaker L?sungen und Training, FrameScript, XML/XSL, Unicode http://cap-studio.de/ -- Tel. +49 (9131) 28747
FM8 Bug: Lines not breaking after em dash and en dash
Is anyone else seeing this? In FM8 Format Document Text Options, I have Allow Line Breaks After set to forward slash, hyphen, en dash, and em dash. I believe these are the default values. Lines break after a slash or hyphen, but not after either em or en dashes. It has caused reflow in documents originally created in FM7.1. Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM8 Bug: Lines not breaking after em dash and en dash
Is anyone else seeing this? In FM8 Format> Document> Text Options, I have "Allow Line Breaks After" set to forward slash, hyphen, en dash, and em dash. I believe these are the default values. Lines break after a slash or hyphen, but not after either em or en dashes. It has caused reflow in documents originally created in FM7.1. Mike Wickham
