Re: Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

[Art Campbell]

Could you provide an update, please, Peter?

Just in passing, for long-term storage, MIF wold be a slightly safer choice
than a binary format... .but I've never had any trouble opening FM files
that are 3-4 vintage.

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On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 4:25 AM, Peter Schorer petescho...@gmail.com wrote:

 A couple of days ago I found out that hundreds of the old Frame files I
 had always been able to open through several versions of Frame, can no
 longer be opened in Frame 11.  This has been confirmed by two Frame 11
 experts.  For me in my work, this is nothing short of a catastrophe.

 ** **

 Incredibly -- yet this too has been confirmed by Frame 11 experts -- those
 old files have been converted into Microsoft Word files!  That wasn't done
 by me, since I have never used MS Word in my life, and have certainly never
 converted a Frame file into an MS Word file.

 ** **

 I can't possibly be the only long-time Frame user who has made this
 shocking discovery.  Adobe/Frame management could fix the problem by simply
 allowing all those old files to be opened as Text files.  This is how I
 always opened them in the past.

 ** **

 Needless to say, prior to my buying Frame 11 last fall, Frame 11 Sales
 mentioned not a word about old Frame files no longer being accessible.

 ** **

 I would like to hear from anyone who has run into this major problem. 

 ** **

 -- Peter Schorer

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

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Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

[Art Campbell]

Could you provide an update, please, Peter?

Just in passing, for long-term storage, MIF wold be a slightly safer choice
than a binary format... .but I've never had any trouble opening FM files
that are 3-4 vintage.

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On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 4:25 AM, Peter Schorer  wrote:

> A couple of days ago I found out that hundreds of the old Frame files I
> had always been able to open through several versions of Frame, can no
> longer be opened in Frame 11.  This has been confirmed by two Frame 11
> experts.  For me in my work, this is nothing short of a catastrophe.
>
> ** **
>
> Incredibly -- yet this too has been confirmed by Frame 11 experts -- those
> old files have been converted into Microsoft Word files!  That wasn't done
> by me, since I have never used MS Word in my life, and have certainly never
> converted a Frame file into an MS Word file.
>
> ** **
>
> I can't possibly be the only long-time Frame user who has made this
> shocking discovery.  Adobe/Frame management could fix the problem by simply
> allowing all those old files to be opened as Text files.  This is how I
> always opened them in the past.
>
> ** **
>
> Needless to say, prior to my buying Frame 11 last fall, Frame 11 Sales
> mentioned not a word about old Frame files no longer being accessible.
>
> ** **
>
> I would like to hear from anyone who has run into this major problem. 
>
> ** **
>
> -- Peter Schorer
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
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RE: Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

[Reng, Dr. Winfried]

Hi Peter,

When you open a FrameMaker binary file with a text editor, it will
show the FrameMaker version of this file in the very first line. In my case:
MakerFile 10.0

How does your first line look like?

Best regards

Winfried

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Schorer
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 10:25 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

A couple of days ago I found out that hundreds of the old Frame files I had 
always been able to open through several versions of Frame, can no longer be 
opened in Frame 11.  This has been confirmed by two Frame 11 experts.  For me 
in my work, this is nothing short of a catastrophe.

Incredibly -- yet this too has been confirmed by Frame 11 experts -- those old 
files have been converted into Microsoft Word files!  That wasn't done by me, 
since I have never used MS Word in my life, and have certainly never converted 
a Frame file into an MS Word file.

I can't possibly be the only long-time Frame user who has made this shocking 
discovery.  Adobe/Frame management could fix the problem by simply allowing all 
those old files to be opened as Text files.  This is how I always opened them 
in the past.

Needless to say, prior to my buying Frame 11 last fall, Frame 11 Sales 
mentioned not a word about old Frame files no longer being accessible.

I would like to hear from anyone who has run into this major problem.

-- Peter Schorer



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RE: Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

[Maxwell Hoffmann]

FYI -- one of the hallmarks of FrameMaker is the stability of its file format 
over the years. As with the others who have previously posted, I have opened 
very old versions of FrameMaker (e.g. 3.5) in FrameMaker 9 while still in the 
translation industry.

Incidentally, if you take a current or recent version of FrameMaker, you can 
save an unstructured FM doc to MIF, and then open that MIF in an older version 
of FrameMaker. Although you will get many error messages, you will only lose 
any newer formatting or doc features not supported in the newer version. The 
document content will remain intact.

Note: save as MIF and opening in an older version is not intended nor supported 
as a round trip between versions, but it does work well.

p.s. if the files you were working with are in some sort of *.doc format (Word) 
you may try saving them to RTF, then open that in FrameMaker -- you find that 
it will work better.


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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 6:48 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

FrameMaker 11 is backward compatible with old .FM files and FrameMaker doesn't 
have the capability to create a Word .DOC file. FrameMaker can save as a .RTF 
file, which Word can read-- but various objects and FrameMaker features will be 
lost in translation. Most importantly, saving as .RTF won't overwrite the 
original .FM file. So if your .FM files are gone and something is there in 
their place, blame a human being, not FrameMaker.

Mike Wickham


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Re: Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

[Steve Rickaby]

At 09:24 + 11/3/13, Steve Rickaby wrote:

Or maybe the file type/extent got changed accidentally, but the contents are 
still Frame?

I should have amplified this. I have had it happen on my system: a bunch of old 
(Frame 3) files mysteriously acquired a '.doc' extension, but the contents were 
unchanged and were readable by FrameMaker.

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Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

[Reng, Dr. Winfried]

Hi Peter,

When you open a FrameMaker binary file with a text editor, it will
show the FrameMaker version of this file in the very first line. In my case:


How does your first line look like?

Best regards

Winfried

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Schorer
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 10:25 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

A couple of days ago I found out that hundreds of the old Frame files I had 
always been able to open through several versions of Frame, can no longer be 
opened in Frame 11.  This has been confirmed by two Frame 11 experts.  For me 
in my work, this is nothing short of a catastrophe.

Incredibly -- yet this too has been confirmed by Frame 11 experts -- those old 
files have been converted into Microsoft Word files!  That wasn't done by me, 
since I have never used MS Word in my life, and have certainly never converted 
a Frame file into an MS Word file.

I can't possibly be the only long-time Frame user who has made this shocking 
discovery.  Adobe/Frame management could fix the problem by simply allowing all 
those old files to be opened as Text files.  This is how I always opened them 
in the past.

Needless to say, prior to my buying Frame 11 last fall, Frame 11 Sales 
mentioned not a word about old Frame files no longer being accessible.

I would like to hear from anyone who has run into this major problem.

-- Peter Schorer



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Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

[Steve Rickaby]

At 14:39 -0700 10/3/13, Robert Lauriston wrote:

>If a bunch of files that used to be in FrameMaker format are now in
>Word format, someone converted them. FM11 has nothing to do with it.

Or maybe the file type/extent got changed accidentally, but the contents are 
still Frame?

-- 
Steve

Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

[Steve Rickaby]

At 09:24 + 11/3/13, Steve Rickaby wrote:

>Or maybe the file type/extent got changed accidentally, but the contents are 
>still Frame?

I should have amplified this. I have had it happen on my system: a bunch of old 
(Frame 3) files mysteriously acquired a '.doc' extension, but the contents were 
unchanged and were readable by FrameMaker.

-- 
Steve

Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

[Peter Schorer]

A couple of days ago I found out that hundreds of the old Frame files I had
always been able to open through several versions of Frame, can no longer be
opened in Frame 11.  This has been confirmed by two Frame 11 experts.  For
me in my work, this is nothing short of a catastrophe.

 

Incredibly -- yet this too has been confirmed by Frame 11 experts -- those
old files have been converted into Microsoft Word files!  That wasn't done
by me, since I have never used MS Word in my life, and have certainly never
converted a Frame file into an MS Word file.

 

I can't possibly be the only long-time Frame user who has made this shocking
discovery.  Adobe/Frame management could fix the problem by simply allowing
all those old files to be opened as Text files.  This is how I always opened
them in the past.

 

Needless to say, prior to my buying Frame 11 last fall, Frame 11 Sales
mentioned not a word about old Frame files no longer being accessible.

 

I would like to hear from anyone who has run into this major problem. 

 

-- Peter Schorer

 

 

 

 

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RE: Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Peter,

 

You don't say how old, but I just opened a FrameMaker 6 file with FrameMaker
11 with no problem. And FrameMaker files don't just convert themselves to
Word files. I don't know who the experts are, but I think you are getting
bad information. If you send me one of the documents off-list, I will try to
open it here.

 

Rick

 

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585-283-5045

r...@frameexpert.com

 

 

 

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Schorer
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 4:25 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

 

A couple of days ago I found out that hundreds of the old Frame files I had
always been able to open through several versions of Frame, can no longer be
opened in Frame 11.  This has been confirmed by two Frame 11 experts.  For
me in my work, this is nothing short of a catastrophe.

 

Incredibly -- yet this too has been confirmed by Frame 11 experts -- those
old files have been converted into Microsoft Word files!  That wasn't done
by me, since I have never used MS Word in my life, and have certainly never
converted a Frame file into an MS Word file.

 

I can't possibly be the only long-time Frame user who has made this shocking
discovery.  Adobe/Frame management could fix the problem by simply allowing
all those old files to be opened as Text files.  This is how I always opened
them in the past.

 

Needless to say, prior to my buying Frame 11 last fall, Frame 11 Sales
mentioned not a word about old Frame files no longer being accessible.

 

I would like to hear from anyone who has run into this major problem. 

 

-- Peter Schorer

 

 

 

 

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RE: Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

Peter,

I have no trouble opening old FM files in version 11 ... including a very old 
FM version 3 file that someone had sent out on the list last year!

Also, I quickly tried opening a few FM 6, and 8 files that I have here and 
there was no trouble - yes, it offered to convert them as usual, but no 
problems opening them.

Z
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Re: Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

[Matt Sullivan]

I'm sure that Adobe sales didn't mention it because they truly believe that 
this is NOT an issue!

Do you have any of your alert messages suppressed in the Preferences?

To add to what Rick and Syed said, I have *never* seen an FM file that will not 
open into a later version of FM.

In fact, I use files in training classes that are installed with FM 11 install. 
 The files date back at least to FM 5.1. I often pull in files from FM5 through 
FM 10 for current FM 11 clients. Always successful.

Please let everyone know if you find folks who experience this problem. My 
prediction is that you find the issue is with something other than FM11 itself. 


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 Needless to say, prior to my buying Frame 11 last fall, Frame 11 Sales 
 mentioned not a word about old Frame files no longer being accessible.
  
 I would like to hear from anyone who has run into this major problem.

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RE: Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

Hi, Peter, et. al.

For reference, I have just checked and opened one FM 3 file, and many FM 5 
(from mid-to-end nineteen nineties), 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 files without any 
problems.

With two types of notifications (that did not change the outcome really):


-the [common] offer to convert to latest version, and

-a notice about missing some language support for documents (that I had 
received rather than created).

Even these last ones still looked perfectly fine on the screen - at least in 
the English versions I looked at. :)

Z
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Re: Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

[Robert Lauriston]

If a bunch of files that used to be in FrameMaker format are now in
Word format, someone converted them. FM11 has nothing to do with it.

On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Peter Schorer petescho...@gmail.com wrote:
 hundreds of the old Frame files ...
 have been converted into Microsoft Word files!  That wasn't done
 by me, since I have never used MS Word in my life, and have certainly never
 converted a Frame file into an MS Word file.
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Re: Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

[Mike Wickham]

FrameMaker 11 is backward compatible with old .FM files and FrameMaker 
doesn't have the capability to create a Word .DOC file. FrameMaker can 
save as a .RTF file, which Word can read-- but various objects and 
FrameMaker features will be lost in translation. Most importantly, 
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files are gone and something is there in their place, blame a human 
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Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Peter,



You don't say how old, but I just opened a FrameMaker 6 file with FrameMaker
11 with no problem. And FrameMaker files don't just convert themselves to
Word files. I don't know who the "experts" are, but I think you are getting
bad information. If you send me one of the documents off-list, I will try to
open it here.



Rick



Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-283-5045

rick at frameexpert.com







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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Schorer
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 4:25 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files



A couple of days ago I found out that hundreds of the old Frame files I had
always been able to open through several versions of Frame, can no longer be
opened in Frame 11.  This has been confirmed by two Frame 11 experts.  For
me in my work, this is nothing short of a catastrophe.



Incredibly -- yet this too has been confirmed by Frame 11 experts -- those
old files have been converted into Microsoft Word files!  That wasn't done
by me, since I have never used MS Word in my life, and have certainly never
converted a Frame file into an MS Word file.



I can't possibly be the only long-time Frame user who has made this shocking
discovery.  Adobe/Frame management could fix the problem by simply allowing
all those old files to be opened as Text files.  This is how I always opened
them in the past.



Needless to say, prior to my buying Frame 11 last fall, Frame 11 Sales
mentioned not a word about old Frame files no longer being accessible.



I would like to hear from anyone who has run into this major problem. 



-- Peter Schorer









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[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

Peter,

I have no trouble opening old FM files in version 11 ... including a very old 
FM version 3 file that someone had sent out on the list last year!

Also, I quickly tried opening a few FM 6, and 8 files that I have here and 
there was no trouble - yes, it offered to convert them as usual, but no 
problems opening them.

Z
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Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

[Matt Sullivan]

I'm sure that Adobe sales didn't mention it because they truly believe that 
this is NOT an issue!

Do you have any of your alert messages suppressed in the Preferences?

To add to what Rick and Syed said, I have *never* seen an FM file that will not 
open into a later version of FM.

In fact, I use files in training classes that are installed with FM 11 install. 
 The files date back at least to FM 5.1. I often pull in files from FM5 through 
FM 10 for current FM 11 clients. Always successful.

Please let everyone know if you find folks who experience this problem. My 
prediction is that you find the issue is with something other than FM11 itself. 


-Matt

Matt Sullivan 
technical communication | online training | eLearning

twitter: @mattrsullivan
phone: 714 960-6840 

On Mar 9, 2013, at 1:25 AM, "Peter Schorer"  wrote:

> Needless to say, prior to my buying Frame 11 last fall, Frame 11 Sales 
> mentioned not a word about old Frame files no longer being accessible.
>  
> I would like to hear from anyone who has run into this major problem.

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Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

[Matt Sullivan]

Peter, do these files still open into the previous version of FrameMaker? And 
what version/platform is that?


-Matt

Matt Sullivan 
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twitter: @mattrsullivan
phone: 714 960-6840 

On Mar 9, 2013, at 1:25 AM, "Peter Schorer"  wrote:

> A couple of days ago I found out that hundreds of the old Frame files I had 
> always been able to open through several versions of Frame, can no longer be 
> opened in Frame 11.  This has been confirmed by two Frame 11 experts.  For me 
> in my work, this is nothing short of a catastrophe.
>  
> Incredibly -- yet this too has been confirmed by Frame 11 experts -- those 
> old files have been converted into Microsoft Word files!  That wasn't done by 
> me, since I have never used MS Word in my life, and have certainly never 
> converted a Frame file into an MS Word file.
>  
> I can't possibly be the only long-time Frame user who has made this shocking 
> discovery.  Adobe/Frame management could fix the problem by simply allowing 
> all those old files to be opened as Text files.  This is how I always opened 
> them in the past.
>  
> Needless to say, prior to my buying Frame 11 last fall, Frame 11 Sales 
> mentioned not a word about old Frame files no longer being accessible.
>  
> I would like to hear from anyone who has run into this major problem.
>  
> -- Peter Schorer
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Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

Hi, Peter, et. al.

For reference, I have just checked and opened one FM 3 file, and many FM 5 
(from mid-to-end nineteen nineties), 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 files without any 
problems.

With two types of notifications (that did not change the outcome really):


-the [common] offer to convert to latest version, and

-a notice about missing some language support for documents (that I had 
received rather than created).

Even these last ones still looked perfectly fine on the screen - at least in 
the English versions I looked at. :)

Z
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Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

[Robert Lauriston]

If a bunch of files that used to be in FrameMaker format are now in
Word format, someone converted them. FM11 has nothing to do with it.

On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Peter Schorer  wrote:
> hundreds of the old Frame files ...
> have been converted into Microsoft Word files!  That wasn't done
> by me, since I have never used MS Word in my life, and have certainly never
> converted a Frame file into an MS Word file.

Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

[Mike Wickham]

FrameMaker 11 is backward compatible with old .FM files and FrameMaker 
doesn't have the capability to create a Word .DOC file. FrameMaker can 
save as a .RTF file, which Word can read-- but various objects and 
FrameMaker features will be lost in translation. Most importantly, 
saving as .RTF won't overwrite the original .FM file. So if your .FM 
files are gone and something is there in their place, blame a human 
being, not FrameMaker.

Mike Wickham

Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

[Maxwell Hoffmann]

FYI -- one of the hallmarks of FrameMaker is the stability of its file format 
over the years. As with the others who have previously posted, I have opened 
very old versions of FrameMaker (e.g. 3.5) in FrameMaker 9 while still in the 
translation industry.

Incidentally, if you take a current or recent version of FrameMaker, you can 
save an unstructured FM doc to MIF, and then open that MIF in an older version 
of FrameMaker. Although you will get many error messages, you will only lose 
any "newer" formatting or doc features not supported in the newer version. The 
document content will remain intact.

Note: save as MIF and opening in an older version is not intended nor supported 
as a "round trip" between versions, but it does work well.

p.s. if the files you were working with are in some sort of *.doc format (Word) 
you may try saving them to RTF, then open that in FrameMaker -- you find that 
it will work better.


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Subject: Re: Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

FrameMaker 11 is backward compatible with old .FM files and FrameMaker doesn't 
have the capability to create a Word .DOC file. FrameMaker can save as a .RTF 
file, which Word can read-- but various objects and FrameMaker features will be 
lost in translation. Most importantly, saving as .RTF won't overwrite the 
original .FM file. So if your .FM files are gone and something is there in 
their place, blame a human being, not FrameMaker.

Mike Wickham


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Frame 11 catastrophe -- unable to open old Frame files

[Peter Schorer]

A couple of days ago I found out that hundreds of the old Frame files I had
always been able to open through several versions of Frame, can no longer be
opened in Frame 11.  This has been confirmed by two Frame 11 experts.  For
me in my work, this is nothing short of a catastrophe.



Incredibly -- yet this too has been confirmed by Frame 11 experts -- those
old files have been converted into Microsoft Word files!  That wasn't done
by me, since I have never used MS Word in my life, and have certainly never
converted a Frame file into an MS Word file.



I can't possibly be the only long-time Frame user who has made this shocking
discovery.  Adobe/Frame management could fix the problem by simply allowing
all those old files to be opened as Text files.  This is how I always opened
them in the past.



Needless to say, prior to my buying Frame 11 last fall, Frame 11 Sales
mentioned not a word about old Frame files no longer being accessible.



I would like to hear from anyone who has run into this major problem. 



-- Peter Schorer









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