RE: FrameMaker 9 Internal error 9004 issue

2015-06-17 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Frank Ripp said:

?  Maybe it is time - if I upgrade, should it be to Frame 12 or Frame 2015?

Hmmm ... probably worth just going to FrameMaker 2015 in your case, I would 
think? The cost for either upgrade (well ... not an upgrade really, since it is 
a new purchase cost!) would be the same for you ... of course, the point that 
Robert Lauriston made about evaluating the competition again is well taken.

Basically, there are probably some (many?) bug fixes in FrameMaker 2015 that 
are not in FrameMaker 12 ... even though they were reported while FrameMaker 12 
was the production release. And it makes prices for future upgrades lower if 
you continue.

Z

[off-topic rant ... here I go again ... so feel free to ignore the rest of 
this! :)]
FWIW, since FrameMaker 12 will not get these fixes now, I believe, it just 
gives more credence to my now-well-underway project of moving away from 
FrameMaker entirely. Also, the price for upgrades remains too high IMHO ... 
perhaps (my speculation) to try to force people to accept the monthly/annual 
subscription model version instead! Yuck. :(

IMHO, companies should fix reproducible bugs reported in released versions - 
and not by forcing us to get bug fixes by upgrading to the next version (at 
high cost). I can rationalize spending $149 (used to be the support license 
cost) to $199 (used to be the old upgrade pricing model) every other year for 
upgrades to FrameMaker. But $399 is simply too much. Since Word for short new 
documents and LaTeX for long new ones are serving my needs very well. YMMV of 
course!

My point: in software, new versions (with upgrades at reasonable prices) should 
be for new functionality ... that can be charged for. Bugs in recent versions 
(let alone those reported on the released version!) should get free fixes. Most 
companies follow that practice till they EOL a particular release, even after 
new versions are available. Microsoft, Oracle and Cyberlink are good examples 
of this Best Practice.

I think it was Robert Lauriston who once asked me why I followed upgrade paths 
all the time ... I now think he was right to basically consider me an idiot 
(more or less)! So, FrameMaker 12 is likely to be my last version until all my 
old documents are converted away to the new tools I now use for all new 
documents! Then it will get punted permanently ... 27+ years after I first 
began using it!
[/off-topic rant]
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Re: FrameMaker 9 Internal error 9004 issue

2015-06-16 Thread Robert Lauriston
Since getting the current release would cost $1000, you might consider
migrating to Flare instead. Not that I'm a huge fan of Flare, but it
won't cost you anything to evaluate.

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Frank Ripp
fr...@pacificbiosciences.com wrote:
 I noticed that my problem started several days after a series of IT-pushed
 system updates. (Frame 9 was running fine on Windows 7 for quite a while
 before that.)

 Fred Ridder said “FWIW, Frame 9.0 is six and a half years old and as of this
 week is now four versions behind the current release. Adobe's usual policy
 is to provide support for no more than two previous versions plus the
 current release. I suspect you may need to bite the bullet and upgrade.”

 Maybe it is time – if I upgrade, should it be to Frame 12 or “Frame 2015”?



 Thanks, Frank



 From: Frank Ripp
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 2:34 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Cc: Frank Ripp
 Subject: FrameMaker 9 Internal error 9004 issue



 Hi Framers,



 I’m running Frame 9 (v9.0p255) under Windows 7 on a Dell Latitude with 16 GB
 of RAM.

 The software was recently installed, and for a few weeks everything worked
 as expected.



 Today, when I open *any* existing Frame document:

 1)  The document is blank.

 2)  When I close the document, the content now displays underneath the
 “Do you want to save changes” dialog. (So my content is still there!)

 3)  No matter which button I click, an error message displays:
 “Internal error 9004 lots of numbers FrameMaker has detected a serious
 problem and must quit.”

 4)  I click OK in the error dialog and FrameMaker quits.



 Our IT folks uninstalled Frame, then reinstalled it from disk. I then
 updated it with 4 separate patches, updating it from 9.0p196 to 9.0p255.

 I’m still seeing the same behavior. (And of course, I’m in the middle of
 working on many documents!)



 As per the error message, I sent the log files to Adobe at
 fmer...@adobe.com. Not sure when I’ll hear back from them.



 Anybody out there run into this problem? How did you resolve it?

 Any help on this is greatly appreciated!



 Frank Ripp

 Pacific Biosciences

 Menlo Park, CA


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RE: FrameMaker 9 Internal error 9004 issue

2015-06-15 Thread Frank Ripp
Hi Framers,

Based on your feedback, I tried the following:


1)  Setting the compatibility mode to Windows XP (Service Pack 3), Vista 
(Service Pack 2), and even Windows 7.

2)  Opening Frame as an Administrator.

Neither of these made a difference.
I noticed that my problem started several days after a series of IT-pushed 
system updates. (Frame 9 was running fine on Windows 7 for quite a while before 
that.)

Fred Ridder said FWIW, Frame 9.0 is six and a half years old and as of this 
week is now four versions behind the current release. Adobe's usual policy is 
to provide support for no more than two previous versions plus the current 
release. I suspect you may need to bite the bullet and upgrade.

Maybe it is time - if I upgrade, should it be to Frame 12 or Frame 2015?

Thanks, Frank

From: Frank Ripp
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 2:34 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Frank Ripp
Subject: FrameMaker 9 Internal error 9004 issue

Hi Framers,

I'm running Frame 9 (v9.0p255) under Windows 7 on a Dell Latitude with 16 GB of 
RAM.
The software was recently installed, and for a few weeks everything worked as 
expected.

Today, when I open *any* existing Frame document:

1)  The document is blank.

2)  When I close the document, the content now displays underneath the Do 
you want to save changes dialog. (So my content is still there!)

3)  No matter which button I click, an error message displays:  Internal 
error 9004 lots of numbers FrameMaker has detected a serious problem and must 
quit.

4)  I click OK in the error dialog and FrameMaker quits.


Our IT folks uninstalled Frame, then reinstalled it from disk. I then updated 
it with 4 separate patches, updating it from 9.0p196 to 9.0p255.
I'm still seeing the same behavior. (And of course, I'm in the middle of 
working on many documents!)

As per the error message, I sent the log files to Adobe at 
fmer...@adobe.commailto:fmer...@adobe.com. Not sure when I'll hear back from 
them.

Anybody out there run into this problem? How did you resolve it?
Any help on this is greatly appreciated!

Frank Ripp
Pacific Biosciences
Menlo Park, CA
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Re: FrameMaker 9 Internal error 9004 issue

2015-06-13 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - iDTP
Did you try to open frame as administrator - maybe only once is enough.  I 
think you need local administrator rights to work with FM. Also check your 
local user folder. That must be accessible and writable.


Kind regards,

Wim Hooghwinkel
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Re: FrameMaker 9 Internal error 9004 issue

2015-06-13 Thread Robert Lauriston
If it needs Run as Administrator, you might need to modify the
shortcut that starts the application. I have one application I had to
do that for in Windows 7 64-bit.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Wim Hooghwinkel - iDTP w...@idtp.eu wrote:
 Did you try to open frame as administrator - maybe only once is enough.  I 
 think you need local administrator rights to work with FM. Also check your 
 local user folder. That must be accessible and writable.
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FrameMaker 9 Internal error 9004 issue

2015-06-12 Thread Frank Ripp
Hi Framers,

I'm running Frame 9 (v9.0p255) under Windows 7 on a Dell Latitude with 16 GB of 
RAM.
The software was recently installed, and for a few weeks everything worked as 
expected.

Today, when I open *any* existing Frame document:

1)  The document is blank.

2)  When I close the document, the content now displays underneath the Do 
you want to save changes dialog. (So my content is still there!)

3)  No matter which button I click, an error message displays:  Internal 
error 9004 lots of numbers FrameMaker has detected a serious problem and must 
quit.

4)  I click OK in the error dialog and FrameMaker quits.


Our IT folks uninstalled Frame, then reinstalled it from disk. I then updated 
it with 4 separate patches, updating it from 9.0p196 to 9.0p255.
I'm still seeing the same behavior. (And of course, I'm in the middle of 
working on many documents!)

As per the error message, I sent the log files to Adobe at 
fmer...@adobe.commailto:fmer...@adobe.com. Not sure when I'll hear back from 
them.

Anybody out there run into this problem? How did you resolve it?
Any help on this is greatly appreciated!

Frank Ripp
Pacific Biosciences
Menlo Park, CA
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Re: FrameMaker 9 Internal error 9004 issue

2015-06-12 Thread Robert Lauriston
64-bit Windows 7 is not a supported OS for FrameMaker 9, it's designed
for 32-bit XP or Vista. Have you tried installing in compatibility
mode?

Here's an old Adobe forum thread on the subject:

https://forums.adobe.com/message/2992588

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Frank Ripp
fr...@pacificbiosciences.com wrote:
 Hi Framers,



 I’m running Frame 9 (v9.0p255) under Windows 7 on a Dell Latitude with 16 GB
 of RAM.

 The software was recently installed, and for a few weeks everything worked
 as expected.



 Today, when I open *any* existing Frame document:

 1)  The document is blank.

 2)  When I close the document, the content now displays underneath the
 “Do you want to save changes” dialog. (So my content is still there!)

 3)  No matter which button I click, an error message displays:
 “Internal error 9004 lots of numbers FrameMaker has detected a serious
 problem and must quit.”
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RE: FrameMaker 9 Internal error 9004 issue

2015-06-12 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
True. Not officially supported, but I also have run every version of FrameMaker 
from 7.2 onwards in 64-bit Windows (various) without any problems - 
particularly this error reported by Frank.

Of course, FM 9 was not as stable as FM 8 (older) or FM 11 (later) versions. FM 
9 did crash on me on a few occasions, but didn't require a re-installation, or 
stay broken for long. Usually it was some file corruption issue that a MIF 
save-read typically fixed.

Z

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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
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Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 2:45 PM
To: Frank Ripp; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FrameMaker 9 Internal error 9004 issue

64-bit Windows 7 is not a supported OS for FrameMaker 9, it's designed for 
32-bit XP or Vista. Have you tried installing in compatibility mode?

Here's an old Adobe forum thread on the subject:

https://forums.adobe.com/message/2992588

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Frank Ripp fr...@pacificbiosciences.com 
wrote:
 Hi Framers,



 I’m running Frame 9 (v9.0p255) under Windows 7 on a Dell Latitude with 
 16 GB of RAM.

 The software was recently installed, and for a few weeks everything 
 worked as expected.



 Today, when I open *any* existing Frame document:

 1)  The document is blank.

 2)  When I close the document, the content now displays underneath the
 “Do you want to save changes” dialog. (So my content is still there!)

 3)  No matter which button I click, an error message displays:
 “Internal error 9004 lots of numbers FrameMaker has detected a 
 serious problem and must quit.”
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