Framers Digest, Vol 37, Issue 24
> While adding an extra space for footnotes helps, it is not a > foolproof method either. You might still see some footnote text > shifting?randomly?to the next page?while the footnote actually > apears on the previous page. This is?not a pleasant?situation > especially?if you are working on an academic project. I am hoping > Frame would pay attention to this problem. It's not actually *random* shifting. Assuming that in the footnote properties dialog you have a large value for "Max height per column" -- I use 9" -- the footnote text jumps to the next page precisely when the length of the note exceeds the available space between the line the note number is on and the bottom of the text frame. So if you refuse to be bullied by FM's behavior and insist on the text breaking correctly across pages -- something Word could do on a Mac in 1986 -- you have to use the manual method I described. Or else you have to use reader-hostile endnotes, where, once again, you'll likely be stuck with a lot of manual fiddling (tho' the footnotes -> endnotes direction can be scripted). I think that there is no chance that the problem will ever be fixed. I've been told by more than one person at Adobe and previously at Frame Tech that it would require massive rewriting of code, and there simply isn't enough customer pressure to make that worthwhile. Of course, that's because the footnote problem is fairly well known and most people who require proper handling of notes avoid FM in the first place. Plus, Mac users are probably overrepresented among the people who care, because they are overrepresented in academia, and Adobe has got rid of them by abandoning development of Mac FM. I've yet to use footnotes in In Design but I'm assured by various people that they work properly there. Graeme Forbes
Re: Framers Digest, Vol 37, Issue 24
> While adding an extra space for footnotes helps, it is not a > foolproof method either. You might still see some footnote text > shifting?randomly?to the next page?while the footnote actually > apears on the previous page. This is?not a pleasant?situation > especially?if you are working on an academic project. I am hoping > Frame would pay attention to this problem. It's not actually *random* shifting. Assuming that in the footnote properties dialog you have a large value for "Max height per column" -- I use 9" -- the footnote text jumps to the next page precisely when the length of the note exceeds the available space between the line the note number is on and the bottom of the text frame. So if you refuse to be bullied by FM's behavior and insist on the text breaking correctly across pages -- something Word could do on a Mac in 1986 -- you have to use the manual method I described. Or else you have to use reader-hostile endnotes, where, once again, you'll likely be stuck with a lot of manual fiddling (tho' the footnotes -> endnotes direction can be scripted). I think that there is no chance that the problem will ever be fixed. I've been told by more than one person at Adobe and previously at Frame Tech that it would require massive rewriting of code, and there simply isn't enough customer pressure to make that worthwhile. Of course, that's because the footnote problem is fairly well known and most people who require proper handling of notes avoid FM in the first place. Plus, Mac users are probably overrepresented among the people who care, because they are overrepresented in academia, and Adobe has got rid of them by abandoning development of Mac FM. I've yet to use footnotes in In Design but I'm assured by various people that they work properly there. Graeme Forbes ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.