RE: Giving some paragraphs a background colour with DITA

2014-01-23 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann
FYI - for those who haven't reviewed all new features in FrameMaker 12, a new 
Pgf box command is available on the Advanced Tab of the Paragraph Designer. 
Unlike single cell tables, the new paragraph background color creates a box 
of color than can break columns or pages.

Naturally, these values can be replicated as format rules in the EDD.

If you wish to see a brief video of this feature, you may view it here: 
http://adobe.ly/1g1ycpJ



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Subject: Re: Giving some paragraphs a background colour with DITA

Hi Rebecca...

For FM-DITA questions you'll probably get more replies by posting to the 
framemaker-dita Yahoo group.

Applying coloring/formatting to paragraphs via @outputclass is fairly easy by 
adding context rules to the p (or whatever) element definition that check for 
a match of that outputclass value and assigning the necessary paragraph tag or 
style overrides.

Doing the same with table cells is not so easy. While you can specify the 
overall table format based on the tgroup/@outputclass, there aren't any EDD 
context rules that you can use to assign properties to specific table cells or 
rows. Apparently FM11 added some new read/write rules that can assign these 
properties. I'm not familiar with setting these up, but you can read more about 
it in this post on the Adobe FrameMaker forum ..

http://forums.adobe.com/message/6026704

BTW .. I'm in the process of developing a new feature in DITA-FMx that will 
allow you to specify outputclass values for rows and cells. This should be 
available in FMx 2.0 when that's released.

Cheers,

...scott


On 1/21/14 8:26 PM, rebecca officer wrote:
Hi everyone

We're going to be using FrameMaker (12) to output PDFs from DITA. We'd like 
certain paragraphs and/or table cells to have a background colour.

Our specific usecase is that we produce multi-switch config examples. 
Sometimes, we find that each switch's content takes up more than a page, and 
that all the switches are nearly identical. It really helps if we can colour 
the content differently, so users (and us!) can see whether they're on switch 
1, 2 or 3.

We thought maybe outputclass would let us do this, but so far we haven't 
figured out how. We've found online references to doing this with the open 
toolkit, and for HTML with CSS, but nothing about Framemaker.

Is there a way to use the outputclass attribute to style how some elements 
appear in FrameMaker? If not, is there another way to get the effect we're 
after?

Thanks very much!
Rebecca
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Giving some paragraphs a background colour with DITA

2014-01-22 Thread rebecca officer
Hi everyone

We're going to be using FrameMaker (12) to output PDFs from DITA. We'd like 
certain paragraphs and/or table cells to have a background colour. 
 
Our specific usecase is that we produce multi-switch config examples. 
Sometimes, we find that each switch's content takes up more than a page, and 
that all the switches are nearly identical. It really helps if we can colour 
the content differently, so users (and us!) can see whether they're on switch 
1, 2 or 3.
 
We thought maybe outputclass would let us do this, but so far we haven't 
figured out how. We've found online references to doing this with the open 
toolkit, and for HTML with CSS, but nothing about Framemaker.
 
Is there a way to use the outputclass attribute to style how some elements 
appear in FrameMaker? If not, is there another way to get the effect we're 
after?
 
Thanks very much!
Rebecca

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Re: Giving some paragraphs a background colour with DITA

2014-01-22 Thread Scott Prentice

Hi Rebecca...

For FM-DITA questions you'll probably get more replies by posting to the 
framemaker-dita Yahoo group.


Applying coloring/formatting to paragraphs via @outputclass is fairly 
easy by adding context rules to the p (or whatever) element definition 
that check for a match of that outputclass value and assigning the 
necessary paragraph tag or style overrides.


Doing the same with table cells is not so easy. While you can specify 
the overall table format based on the tgroup/@outputclass, there aren't 
any EDD context rules that you can use to assign properties to specific 
table cells or rows. Apparently FM11 added some new read/write rules 
that can assign these properties. I'm not familiar with setting these 
up, but you can read more about it in this post on the Adobe FrameMaker 
forum ..


http://forums.adobe.com/message/6026704

BTW .. I'm in the process of developing a new feature in DITA-FMx that 
will allow you to specify outputclass values for rows and cells. This 
should be available in FMx 2.0 when that's released.


Cheers,

...scott


On 1/21/14 8:26 PM, rebecca officer wrote:

Hi everyone

We're going to be using FrameMaker (12) to output PDFs from DITA. We'd 
like certain paragraphs and/or table cells to have a background colour.
Our specific usecase is that we produce multi-switch config examples. 
Sometimes, we find that each switch's content takes up more than a 
page, and that all the switches are nearly identical. It really helps 
if we can colour the content differently, so users (and us!) can see 
whether they're on switch 1, 2 or 3.
We thought maybe outputclass would let us do this, but so far we 
haven't figured out how. We've found online references to doing this 
with the open toolkit, and for HTML with CSS, but nothing about 
Framemaker.
Is there a way to use the outputclass attribute to style how some 
elements appear in FrameMaker? If not, is there another way to get the 
effect we're after?

Thanks very much!
Rebecca


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Giving some paragraphs a background colour with DITA

2014-01-22 Thread rebecca officer
Hi everyone

We're going to be using FrameMaker (12) to output PDFs from DITA. We'd like 
certain paragraphs and/or table cells to have a background colour. 

Our specific usecase is that we produce multi-switch config examples. 
Sometimes, we find that each switch's content takes up more than a page, and 
that all the switches are nearly identical. It really helps if we can colour 
the content differently, so users (and us!) can see whether they're on switch 
1, 2 or 3.

We thought maybe outputclass would let us do this, but so far we haven't 
figured out how. We've found online references to doing this with the open 
toolkit, and for HTML with CSS, but nothing about Framemaker.

Is there a way to use the outputclass attribute to style how some elements 
appear in FrameMaker? If not, is there another way to get the effect we're 
after?

Thanks very much!
Rebecca

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Giving some paragraphs a background colour with DITA

2014-01-22 Thread Scott Prentice
Hi Rebecca...

For FM-DITA questions you'll probably get more replies by posting to the 
framemaker-dita Yahoo group.

Applying coloring/formatting to paragraphs via @outputclass is fairly 
easy by adding context rules to the  (or whatever) element definition 
that check for a match of that outputclass value and assigning the 
necessary paragraph tag or style overrides.

Doing the same with table cells is not so easy. While you can specify 
the overall table format based on the tgroup/@outputclass, there aren't 
any EDD context rules that you can use to assign properties to specific 
table cells or rows. Apparently FM11 added some new read/write rules 
that can assign these properties. I'm not familiar with setting these 
up, but you can read more about it in this post on the Adobe FrameMaker 
forum ..

 http://forums.adobe.com/message/6026704

BTW .. I'm in the process of developing a new feature in DITA-FMx that 
will allow you to specify outputclass values for rows and cells. This 
should be available in FMx 2.0 when that's released.

Cheers,

...scott


On 1/21/14 8:26 PM, rebecca officer wrote:
> Hi everyone
>
> We're going to be using FrameMaker (12) to output PDFs from DITA. We'd 
> like certain paragraphs and/or table cells to have a background colour.
> Our specific usecase is that we produce multi-switch config examples. 
> Sometimes, we find that each switch's content takes up more than a 
> page, and that all the switches are nearly identical. It really helps 
> if we can colour the content differently, so users (and us!) can see 
> whether they're on switch 1, 2 or 3.
> We thought maybe outputclass would let us do this, but so far we 
> haven't figured out how. We've found online references to doing this 
> with the open toolkit, and for HTML with CSS, but nothing about 
> Framemaker.
> Is there a way to use the outputclass attribute to style how some 
> elements appear in FrameMaker? If not, is there another way to get the 
> effect we're after?
> Thanks very much!
> Rebecca
>
>
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