[Framers] Glossary popups FrameMaker 12 to Responsive HTML

[Pat Christenson]

Hi all -

I'm using FrameMaker 12 unstructured.

In a document that will be published as Responsive HTML, I need the user to be 
able to point (or click) at part of a screenshot and a popup opens, explaining 
that feature.

I've tried using the marker types Glossary and GlossaryTerm, and they work fine 
as long as both are in text. But when I create a text frame on top of the 
screenshot in the anchored frame and put the marker in the text frame, it's a 
no-go.

I'm guessing it works when both are in the text because they're in the same 
flow (A:). But FrameMaker won't let me tag the text frame on the screenshot A 
and if I create a text frame outside the anchored frame and tag it A, 
FrameMaker won't let me drag it into the frame.

So long story short, is there a way to get this work? Should I use something 
other than Glossary markers? I've noticed that the Popup marker type is 
available but appears to do nothing and is no longer mentioned in FrameMaker 
Help.

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary and filter from Output

[Caroline Tabach]

Thanks to all

Caroline Tabach
Technical/Marcom Writer
T. +972-77-7745-042


-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+caroline=radcom@lists.frameusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:28 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary 
and filter from Output

Except she's running FM2015 ;>)
But it might give some clues about monkeying around under the hood...

From: Framers 
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of Alexandra Duffy <adu...@vectorworks.net>
Sent: March-29-17 3:18 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary 
and filter from Output

Hi Caroline,
Check out this thread too: https://forums.adobe.com/message/9111525 . Be sure 
you have updated to the latest RoboHelp version, 12.0.4.460 Alexandra

> Hi,
> I use the above
> I am making Responsive HTML Help from Frame I do not have a glossary 
> or filter I would like to remove those icons which are not in use In 
> the Publish Pod,  I used Edit on the Settings File I clicked Manage 
> Layout Under Basic Settings, I set Show Glossary and Show Filter to 
> False
>
> But this does not work, the icons are still displayed in the Help file
>
> What should I be doing
> thanks
>
> Caroline Tabach
> Technical/Marcom Writer
> T. +972-77-7745-042
> [cid:image003.png@01D276F7.663CB560]<http://www.radcom.com/>
>
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary and filter from Output

[Jeff Coatsworth]

Except she's running FM2015 ;>)
But it might give some clues about monkeying around under the hood...

From: Framers 
<framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf 
of Alexandra Duffy <adu...@vectorworks.net>
Sent: March-29-17 3:18 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary 
and filter from Output

Hi Caroline,
Check out this thread too: https://forums.adobe.com/message/9111525 . Be sure 
you have updated to the latest RoboHelp version, 12.0.4.460
Alexandra

> Hi,
> I use the above
> I am making Responsive HTML Help from Frame I do not have a glossary or
> filter I would like to remove those icons which are not in use In the Publish
> Pod,  I used Edit on the Settings File I clicked Manage Layout Under Basic
> Settings, I set Show Glossary and Show Filter to False
>
> But this does not work, the icons are still displayed in the Help file
>
> What should I be doing
> thanks
>
> Caroline Tabach
> Technical/Marcom Writer
> T. +972-77-7745-042
> [cid:image003.png@01D276F7.663CB560]<http://www.radcom.com/>
>
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary and filter from Output

[techcommtools.com]

Hi Caroline, 

Try creating a new layout, and use one of the layouts that is new to Fm 2015. 
Prior layouts may not provide this functionality.

-Matt

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary and filter from Output

[Alexandra Duffy]

Hi Caroline,
Check out this thread too: https://forums.adobe.com/message/9111525 . Be sure 
you have updated to the latest RoboHelp version, 12.0.4.460
Alexandra

> Hi,
> I use the above
> I am making Responsive HTML Help from Frame I do not have a glossary or
> filter I would like to remove those icons which are not in use In the Publish
> Pod,  I used Edit on the Settings File I clicked Manage Layout Under Basic
> Settings, I set Show Glossary and Show Filter to False
> 
> But this does not work, the icons are still displayed in the Help file
> 
> What should I be doing
> thanks
> 
> Caroline Tabach
> Technical/Marcom Writer
> T. +972-77-7745-042
> [cid:image003.png@01D276F7.663CB560]<http://www.radcom.com/>
> 
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary and filter from Output

[Caroline Tabach]

Thanks

Caroline Tabach
Technical/Marcom Writer
T. +972-77-7745-042


-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+caroline=radcom@lists.frameusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 4:51 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary 
and filter from Output

You might want to check out this thread - 
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2111761

From: Framers 
<framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf 
of Caroline Tabach <carol...@radcom.com>
Sent: March-28-17 9:45 AM
To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary and 
filter from Output

Hi,
I use the above
I am making Responsive HTML Help from Frame I do not have a glossary or filter 
I would like to remove those icons which are not in use In the Publish Pod,  I 
used Edit on the Settings File I clicked Manage Layout Under Basic Settings, I 
set Show Glossary and Show Filter to False

But this does not work, the icons are still displayed in the Help file

What should I be doing
thanks

Caroline Tabach
Technical/Marcom Writer
T. +972-77-7745-042
[cid:image003.png@01D276F7.663CB560]<http://www.radcom.com/>

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary and filter from Output

[Jeff Coatsworth]

You might want to check out this thread - 
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2111761 

From: Framers 
<framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf 
of Caroline Tabach <carol...@radcom.com>
Sent: March-28-17 9:45 AM
To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary and 
filter from Output

Hi,
I use the above
I am making Responsive HTML Help from Frame
I do not have a glossary or filter
I would like to remove those icons which are not in use
In the Publish Pod,  I used Edit on the Settings File
I clicked Manage Layout
Under Basic Settings, I set Show Glossary and Show Filter to False

But this does not work, the icons are still displayed in the Help file

What should I be doing
thanks

Caroline Tabach
Technical/Marcom Writer
T. +972-77-7745-042
[cid:image003.png@01D276F7.663CB560]<http://www.radcom.com/>

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[Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary and filter from Output

[Caroline Tabach]

Hi,
I use the above
I am making Responsive HTML Help from Frame
I do not have a glossary or filter
I would like to remove those icons which are not in use
In the Publish Pod,  I used Edit on the Settings File
I clicked Manage Layout
Under Basic Settings, I set Show Glossary and Show Filter to False

But this does not work, the icons are still displayed in the Help file

What should I be doing
thanks

Caroline Tabach
Technical/Marcom Writer
T. +972-77-7745-042
[cid:image003.png@01D276F7.663CB560]<http://www.radcom.com/>

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Index and Glossary

[Donald Rinderknecht - NOAA Federal]

Hi Framers,



Am I imagining things? I thought there was a way to generate an index based
upon a list of terms, but I can’t find anything in the documentation.



We’re trying to build a glossary and I thought that tool might be useful.



Any tips?



Thanks,
don



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Re: Index and Glossary

[Matt Sullivan]

Hi Donald,It sounds like you're looking for an Alphabetical List of Markers. Check that out in the help, or see Ch 20, Creating Other Generated Files in my book.
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Re: Index and Glossary

[Lin Sims]

Hi Don,

Do you mean that you want to create a list of terms in a file and have
something automatically mark those terms in your documents to be added to
an Index? I don't know if FM does this by itself, but I believe that IXgen (
http://www.fsatools.com/ixds.html) will do this. Index Markers by
Configuration, from SQUIDDS (part of Finalyzer:
http://www.finalyser.de/en/finalyser.html), MIGHT do this, but I've never
used the tool so I'm not positive.

HTH

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Donald Rinderknecht - NOAA Federal 
donald.m.rinderkne...@noaa.gov wrote:

 Hi Framers,



 Am I imagining things? I thought there was a way to generate an index
 based upon a list of terms, but I can’t find anything in the documentation.



 We’re trying to build a glossary and I thought that tool might be useful.



 Any tips?



 Thanks,
 don



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 Meteorologist Instructor

 Warning Decision Training Branch

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 405.325.2805



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Index and Glossary

[Donald Rinderknecht - NOAA Federal]

Hi Framers,



Am I imagining things? I thought there was a way to generate an index based
upon a list of terms, but I can?t find anything in the documentation.



We?re trying to build a glossary and I thought that tool might be useful.



Any tips?



Thanks,
don



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Index and Glossary

[Matt Sullivan]

Hi Donald, 

It sounds like you're looking for an Alphabetical List of Markers. Check that 
out in the help, or see Ch 20, Creating Other Generated Files in my book.

-Matt

Matt R. Sullivan 
co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 
P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com 

@mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook mattrsullivan.com 

On Jul 16, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Donald Rinderknecht - NOAA Federal 
 wrote:

> Hi Framers,
>  
> Am I imagining things? I thought there was a way to generate an index based 
> upon a list of terms, but I can?t find anything in the documentation.
>  
> We?re trying to build a glossary and I thought that tool might be useful.
>  
> Any tips?
>  
> Thanks,
> don
>  
> --
> Don Rinderknecht
> Meteorologist Instructor
> Warning Decision Training Branch
> Norman, OK
> 405.325.2805
>  
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Index and Glossary

[Lin Sims]

Hi Don,

Do you mean that you want to create a list of terms in a file and have
something automatically mark those terms in your documents to be added to
an Index? I don't know if FM does this by itself, but I believe that IXgen (
http://www.fsatools.com/ixds.html) will do this. Index Markers by
Configuration, from SQUIDDS (part of Finalyzer:
http://www.finalyser.de/en/finalyser.html), MIGHT do this, but I've never
used the tool so I'm not positive.

HTH

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Donald Rinderknecht - NOAA Federal <
donald.m.rinderknecht at noaa.gov> wrote:

> Hi Framers,
>
>
>
> Am I imagining things? I thought there was a way to generate an index
> based upon a list of terms, but I can?t find anything in the documentation.
>
>
>
> We?re trying to build a glossary and I thought that tool might be useful.
>
>
>
> Any tips?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> don
>
>
>
> --
>
> Don Rinderknecht
>
> Meteorologist Instructor
>
> Warning Decision Training Branch
>
> Norman, OK
>
> 405.325.2805
>
>
>
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Index and Glossary

[Bethany Lee]

Does this help?
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/9.0/Using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7960b-7ed5.html


From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Donald Rinderknecht 
- NOAA Federal
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:24 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Index and Glossary

Hi Framers,

Am I imagining things? I thought there was a way to generate an index based 
upon a list of terms, but I can't find anything in the documentation.

We're trying to build a glossary and I thought that tool might be useful.

Any tips?

Thanks,
don

--
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Meteorologist Instructor
Warning Decision Training Branch
Norman, OK
405.325.2805

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Re: OT - Using a Defect Tracking System to Create a Glossary

[Robert Lauriston]

What was the problem with Confluence?

Here's a new hosted service specifically for that purpose:
http://www.cloudwords.com/2012/08/cloudwords-takes-the-global-glossary-to-the-cloud/
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OT - Using a Defect Tracking System to Create a Glossary

[Robert Lauriston]

What was the problem with Confluence?

Here's a new hosted service specifically for that purpose:
http://www.cloudwords.com/2012/08/cloudwords-takes-the-global-glossary-to-the-cloud/

RE: OT - Using a Defect Tracking System to Create a Glossary

[David Artman]

I might be the only one confused... but what is the point of a defect
tracker to develop a glossary? Are you trying to use the tracker as a
means of handling review and edit? I mean... there's TONS of ways to
handle such a workflow, if the goal is merely:
* Someone comes up with a new term for the glossary, and defines it.
* The term and definition is shopped around various SMEs and interested
parties, for comments/edits.
* The term is added to some kind of FM file/book and the deliverable
(CHM file?) is re-generated and re-published.

Hell, it could be done with an Outlook task or an email chain; it could
be done on an internal, developmental wiki; it could be done in a
regular (e.g., weekly, monthly) meeting for all new term additions at
once.

I guess... uh, I guess I just don't understand why this is even a
question? Can you provide further details about tools limitations,
contributor requirements/restrictions, or other business needs that
might be impacting your choice of workflows, which is leading you to
reach out for advice...?
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OT - Using a Defect Tracking System to Create a Glossary

[Roopa Belur]

Hi All,

I have been assigned to create a comprehensive and a single glossary for 
documentation purposes. I am researching and evaluating several options at this 
time, and one of the suggestions i have received is to define a workflow (from 
Product Manager to Dev to Doc) using our defect tracking system.

We currently use Siebel to track defects. What are the pros and cons of using a 
defect tracking system to set up a workflow for a glossary? What are some of 
the concerns with this approach?

The eventual intent is to create a global file in Frame and use RoboHelp to 
make it available online to various groups within the company.

Please share your views when you have a minute.

Thanks for your help.

Rgds,
Roopa 
 
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Re: OT - Using a Defect Tracking System to Create a Glossary

[Roopa Belur]

Thanks, David, for your response. I should have furnished more details, sorry 
about that.

The localization team in our company does use a legacy in-house system to add, 
review and edit terms and definitions to the localized glossary. This process 
has proved to be efficient and self-sufficient, however, it requires a 
considerable amount of developmental effort to replicate the same process and 
workflow for our (documentation) project. Our intent is to create a global file 
of terms and definitions and provide a read access to the others teams in the 
company.

 We have evaluated Wiki and Confluence as well, and it does not appear to 
fulfill our needs. We are talking at least 3000 to 4000 terms and definitions 
here.

Siebel was suggested to us, and I was wondering if anyone has used a defect 
tracking tool for glossary purposes before. Siebel is primarily a CRM tool, so 
am trying to understand better how we could use it to build a database of 
glossary terms and definitions.

Rgds,
Roopa

 
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complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the 
philosophy is kindness.   

--H.H. the Dalai Lama





 From: David Artman da...@davidartman.com
To: Roopa Belur rbe...@yahoo.com; Framers framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:13 PM
Subject: RE: OT - Using a Defect Tracking System to Create a Glossary
 
I might be the only one confused... but what is the point of a defect
tracker to develop a glossary? Are you trying to use the tracker as a
means of handling review and edit? I mean... there's TONS of ways to
handle such a workflow, if the goal is merely:
* Someone comes up with a new term for the glossary, and defines it.
* The term and definition is shopped around various SMEs and interested
parties, for comments/edits.
* The term is added to some kind of FM file/book and the deliverable
(CHM file?) is re-generated and re-published.

Hell, it could be done with an Outlook task or an email chain; it could
be done on an internal, developmental wiki; it could be done in a
regular (e.g., weekly, monthly) meeting for all new term additions at
once.

I guess... uh, I guess I just don't understand why this is even a
question? Can you provide further details about tools limitations,
contributor requirements/restrictions, or other business needs that
might be impacting your choice of workflows, which is leading you to
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OT - Using a Defect Tracking System to Create a Glossary

[Roopa Belur]

Hi All,

I have been assigned to create a comprehensive and a single glossary for 
documentation purposes. I am researching and evaluating several options at this 
time, and one of the suggestions i have received is to define a workflow (from 
Product Manager to Dev to Doc) using our defect tracking system.

We currently use Siebel to track defects. What are the pros and cons of using a 
defect tracking system to set up a workflow for a glossary??What are some of 
the concerns with this approach?

The eventual intent is to create a global file in Frame and use RoboHelp to 
make it available online to various groups within the company.

Please share your views when you have a minute.

Thanks for your help.

Rgds,
Roopa?
?
"This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for 
complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the 
philosophy is kindness."?? 

--H.H. the Dalai Lama
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OT - Using a Defect Tracking System to Create a Glossary

[Roopa Belur]

Thanks, David, for your response. I should have furnished more details, sorry 
about that.

The localization team in our company does use a legacy in-house system to add, 
review and edit terms and definitions to the "localized" glossary. This process 
has proved to be efficient and self-sufficient, however, it requires a 
considerable amount of developmental effort to replicate the same process and 
workflow for our (documentation) project. Our intent is to create a global file 
of terms and definitions and provide a read access to the others teams in the 
company.

?We have evaluated Wiki and Confluence as well, and it does not appear to 
fulfill our needs. We are talking at least 3000 to 4000 terms and definitions 
here.

Siebel was suggested to us, and I was wondering if anyone has used a defect 
tracking tool for glossary purposes before. Siebel is primarily a CRM tool, so 
am trying to understand better how we could use it to build a database of 
glossary terms and definitions.

Rgds,
Roopa

?
"This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for 
complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the 
philosophy is kindness."?? 

--H.H. the Dalai Lama





 From: David Artman 
To: Roopa Belur ; Framers  
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:13 PM
Subject: RE: OT - Using a Defect Tracking System to Create a Glossary

I might be the only one confused... but what is the point of a defect
tracker to develop a glossary? Are you trying to use the tracker as a
means of handling review and edit? I mean... there's TONS of ways to
handle such a workflow, if the goal is merely:
* Someone comes up with a new term for the glossary, and defines it.
* The term and definition is shopped around various SMEs and interested
parties, for comments/edits.
* The term is added to some kind of FM file/book and the deliverable
(CHM file?) is re-generated and re-published.

Hell, it could be done with an Outlook task or an email chain; it could
be done on an internal, developmental wiki; it could be done in a
regular (e.g., weekly, monthly) meeting for all new term additions at
once.

I guess... uh, I guess I just don't understand why this is even a
question? Can you provide further details about tools limitations,
contributor requirements/restrictions, or other business needs that
might be impacting your choice of workflows, which is leading you to
reach out for advice...?
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OT - Using a Defect Tracking System to Create a Glossary

[David Artman]

I might be the only one confused... but what is the point of a defect
tracker to develop a glossary? Are you trying to use the tracker as a
means of handling review and edit? I mean... there's TONS of ways to
handle such a workflow, if the goal is merely:
* Someone comes up with a new term for the glossary, and defines it.
* The term and definition is shopped around various SMEs and interested
parties, for comments/edits.
* The term is added to some kind of FM file/book and the deliverable
(CHM file?) is re-generated and re-published.

Hell, it could be done with an Outlook task or an email chain; it could
be done on an internal, developmental wiki; it could be done in a
regular (e.g., weekly, monthly) meeting for all new term additions at
once.

I guess... uh, I guess I just don't understand why this is even a
question? Can you provide further details about tools limitations,
contributor requirements/restrictions, or other business needs that
might be impacting your choice of workflows, which is leading you to
reach out for advice...?

Glossary for both paper and online help

[Andersen, Verner Engell VEA]

All

How do you insert glossary items in your Framemaker file for use in the
paper version as an alphabetical list of glossary terms and in the
online help as drop-down hotspots/hovertext.

 

I use Framemaker 7.2 and Webworks Publisher 7.2 with the webhelp 5.0
output format.

 

I used to have a generated alphabetical list of glossary markers for the
paper manual and some other markers for the online part.

 

I have seen various ways of doing this in Framemaker

 

Using gotolink and newlink markers

Using acronymTitle and AbbreviationTitle makers.

 

I would prefer an automatic solution which lists all items in the paper
version of the glossary alphabetically. 

 

Best regards,

 

Verner


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Denmark 
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Glossary for both paper and online help

[Andersen, Verner Engell VEA]

All

How do you insert glossary items in your Framemaker file for use in the
paper version as an alphabetical list of glossary terms and in the
online help as drop-down hotspots/hovertext.



I use Framemaker 7.2 and Webworks Publisher 7.2 with the webhelp 5.0
output format.



I used to have a generated alphabetical list of glossary markers for the
paper manual and some other markers for the online part.



I have seen various ways of doing this in Framemaker



Using gotolink and newlink markers

Using acronymTitle and AbbreviationTitle makers.



I would prefer an automatic solution which lists all items in the paper
version of the glossary alphabetically. 



Best regards,



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DK-2700 Bronshoj 
Denmark 
Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 
CVR: 13496188



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Frame crashes when generating a Glossary

[Gillian Flato]

I marked a bunch of terms with the glossary marker. When I try to update
my book and generate the glossary, Frame crashes. I get that internal
error dialog. When I update the book without the glossary, everything is
fine. Has anyone else experienced this? What was the solution.
 
Frame 7.0 p492
Win XP
 

Thank you,

 

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RE: Frame crashes when generating a Glossary

[Gillian Flato]

Thanks Fred! That was the problem. 


-Gillian


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One well-documented cause of this behavior is markers that include 
returns. Check your markers. 

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Subject: Frame crashes when generating a Glossary

I marked a bunch of terms with the glossary marker. When I try to update
my book and generate the glossary, Frame crashes. I get that internal
error dialog. When I update the book without the glossary, everything is
fine. Has anyone else experienced this? What was the solution.
 
Frame 7.0 p492
Win XP
 

Thank you,

 

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

nanometrics

1550 Buckeye Dr. 

Milpitas, CA. 95035

(408.435.9600 x 316

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Frame crashes when generating a Glossary

[Gillian Flato]

I marked a bunch of terms with the glossary marker. When I try to update
my book and generate the glossary, Frame crashes. I get that internal
error dialog. When I update the book without the glossary, everything is
fine. Has anyone else experienced this? What was the solution.

Frame 7.0 p492
Win XP


Thank you,



<mailto:gflato at nanometrics.com> 

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

nanometrics

1550 Buckeye Dr. 

Milpitas, CA. 95035

(408.435.9600 x 316

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Frame crashes when generating a Glossary

[Ridder, Fred]

One well-documented cause of this behavior is markers that include 
returns. Check your markers. 

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Behalf Of Gillian Flato
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:50 PM
To: framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: Frame crashes when generating a Glossary

I marked a bunch of terms with the glossary marker. When I try to update
my book and generate the glossary, Frame crashes. I get that internal
error dialog. When I update the book without the glossary, everything is
fine. Has anyone else experienced this? What was the solution.

Frame 7.0 p492
Win XP


Thank you,



<mailto:gflato at nanometrics.com> 

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

nanometrics

1550 Buckeye Dr. 

Milpitas, CA. 95035

(408.435.9600 x 316

7  408.232.5911

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Frame crashes when generating a Glossary

[Gillian Flato]

Thanks Fred! That was the problem. 


-Gillian


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Subject: RE: Frame crashes when generating a Glossary

One well-documented cause of this behavior is markers that include 
returns. Check your markers. 

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To: framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: Frame crashes when generating a Glossary

I marked a bunch of terms with the glossary marker. When I try to update
my book and generate the glossary, Frame crashes. I get that internal
error dialog. When I update the book without the glossary, everything is
fine. Has anyone else experienced this? What was the solution.

Frame 7.0 p492
Win XP


Thank you,



<mailto:gflato at nanometrics.com> 

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

nanometrics

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Question about glossary terms

[Roger Bell]

I am creating unstructured guides in FrameMaker 7.2. The guides are
primarily for print, but our customers also received PDF copies.
 
There are terms that I need to define, so I have created a glossary. I
want to use a visual indicator, so that anyone using either the print or
the PDF guide would know that a term is defined in the glossary.
 
So far I have been using a graphic question mark icon that I place
directly beside a term. I describe the meaning of the icon in the
typographical conventions section of each guide's introduction.
 
Any thoughts on a better way to indicate glossary entries? I am not
wanting to use a cross-reference or hyperlink in particular, but I'm
willing to consider all suggestions.
 
Regards,
Roger Bell
Technical Writer
770.246.2300 x 1181
VCG, Inc.
The power to succeed.
www.vcgsoftware.com http://www.vcgsoftware.com/ 
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Re: Question about glossary terms

[Rene Stephenson]

Using colored text, such as green, could be helpful so that they can easily 
identify the defined/linked term at a glance. For instance, if the term used is 
a phrase like gain fluctuation or return loss, so that they don't think you're 
just defining fluctuation and loss, respectively.
   
  HTH
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Roger Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am creating unstructured guides in FrameMaker 7.2. The guides are
primarily for print, but our customers also received PDF copies.

There are terms that I need to define, so I have created a glossary. I
want to use a visual indicator, so that anyone using either the print or
the PDF guide would know that a term is defined in the glossary.

So far I have been using a graphic question mark icon that I place
directly beside a term. I describe the meaning of the icon in the
typographical conventions section of each guide's introduction.

Any thoughts on a better way to indicate glossary entries? I am not
wanting to use a cross-reference or hyperlink in particular, but I'm
willing to consider all suggestions.

Regards,
Roger Bell
Technical Writer
770.246.2300 x 1181
VCG, Inc.
The power to succeed.
www.vcgsoftware.com 
1805 Old Alabama Road, Suite 250
Roswell, GA 30076
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Question about glossary terms

[Roger Bell]

I am creating unstructured guides in FrameMaker 7.2. The guides are
primarily for print, but our customers also received PDF copies.

There are terms that I need to define, so I have created a glossary. I
want to use a visual indicator, so that anyone using either the print or
the PDF guide would know that a term is defined in the glossary.

So far I have been using a graphic question mark icon that I place
directly beside a term. I describe the meaning of the icon in the
typographical conventions section of each guide's introduction.

Any thoughts on a better way to indicate glossary entries? I am not
wanting to use a cross-reference or hyperlink in particular, but I'm
willing to consider all suggestions.

Regards,
Roger Bell
Technical Writer
770.246.2300 x 1181
VCG, Inc.
The power to succeed.
www.vcgsoftware.com <http://www.vcgsoftware.com/> 
1805 Old Alabama Road, Suite 250
Roswell, GA 30076
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Question about glossary terms

[Rene Stephenson]

Using colored text, such as green, could be helpful so that they can easily 
identify the defined/linked term at a glance. For instance, if the term used is 
a phrase like gain fluctuation or return loss, so that they don't think you're 
just defining fluctuation and loss, respectively.

  HTH
  Rene Stephenson

Roger Bell  wrote:
  I am creating unstructured guides in FrameMaker 7.2. The guides are
primarily for print, but our customers also received PDF copies.

There are terms that I need to define, so I have created a glossary. I
want to use a visual indicator, so that anyone using either the print or
the PDF guide would know that a term is defined in the glossary.

So far I have been using a graphic question mark icon that I place
directly beside a term. I describe the meaning of the icon in the
typographical conventions section of each guide's introduction.

Any thoughts on a better way to indicate glossary entries? I am not
wanting to use a cross-reference or hyperlink in particular, but I'm
willing to consider all suggestions.

Regards,
Roger Bell
Technical Writer
770.246.2300 x 1181
VCG, Inc.
The power to succeed.
www.vcgsoftware.com 
1805 Old Alabama Road, Suite 250
Roswell, GA 30076
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RE: How do I add a Tab to a Marker using Glossary

[Ridder, Fred]

I suspect that you're seeing the result of FrameMaker's handling of
tab stops.  I'm guessing that the paragraph tag that is being used for 
the collected glossary items lacks a defined tab stop position.
Without one or more defined tab positions (and the default is to have
none), you can type as many tab characters as you want (manually 
or via an escape code in a dialog box), and FrameMaker won't budge
so much as a single point.  Open the Paragraph Designer from your
glossary file and make sure that the Basic properties sheet shows
a tab defined at an appropriate location.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 8:53 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: How do I add a Tab to a Marker using Glossary

I have a generated file for my acronyms and abbreviations. I am using FM
on
a PC.
When we used FM on a MAC we would just put in the Marker box (Glossary)
and
type:

JHU/APL\tThe Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
And then press edit marker

Once we are done with marking all other acronyms, we would generate the
file. 
It would put the tab for us and we would have  list:
JHU/APL The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
etc..


On the PC side when we do this we do not get the Tab in our generated
file
It shows up as:
JHU/APL\tThe Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory

No Tab.

How do I put in a tab in the Marker box and get it to generate properly?



Brenda L. Waltermeyer
Lead Desktop Publisher
The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
National Security Technology Department
Visual Information, Editorial, and Web Services, STB-4 Section
Room 8-375
Phone: (443) 778-8748

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Re: How do I add a Tab to a Marker using Glossary

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Brenda,

In place of \t, try using \x08.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com



I have a generated file for my acronyms and abbreviations. I am using FM on
a PC.
When we used FM on a MAC we would just put in the Marker box (Glossary) 
and

type:

   JHU/APL\tThe Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
   And then press edit marker

Once we are done with marking all other acronyms, we would generate the
file.
It would put the tab for us and we would have  list:
   JHU/APL The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
   etc..


On the PC side when we do this we do not get the Tab in our generated file
It shows up as:
   JHU/APL\tThe Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory

No Tab.

How do I put in a tab in the Marker box and get it to generate properly?



Brenda L. Waltermeyer
Lead Desktop Publisher
The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
National Security Technology Department
Visual Information, Editorial, and Web Services, STB-4 Section
Room 8-375
Phone: (443) 778-8748


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How do I add a Tab to a Marker using Glossary

[Ridder, Fred]

I suspect that you're seeing the result of FrameMaker's handling of
tab stops.  I'm guessing that the paragraph tag that is being used for 
the collected glossary items lacks a defined tab stop position.
Without one or more defined tab positions (and the default is to have
none), you can type as many tab characters as you want (manually 
or via an escape code in a dialog box), and FrameMaker won't budge
so much as a single point.  Open the Paragraph Designer from your
glossary file and make sure that the Basic properties sheet shows
a tab defined at an appropriate location.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Brenda Waltermeyer
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 8:53 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: How do I add a Tab to a Marker using Glossary

I have a generated file for my acronyms and abbreviations. I am using FM
on
a PC.
When we used FM on a MAC we would just put in the Marker box (Glossary)
and
type:

JHU/APL\tThe Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
And then press edit marker

Once we are done with marking all other acronyms, we would generate the
file. 
It would put the tab for us and we would have  list:
JHU/APL The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
etc..


On the PC side when we do this we do not get the Tab in our generated
file
It shows up as:
JHU/APL\tThe Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory

No Tab.

How do I put in a tab in the Marker box and get it to generate properly?



Brenda L. Waltermeyer
Lead Desktop Publisher
The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
National Security Technology Department
Visual Information, Editorial, and Web Services, STB-4 Section
Room 8-375
Phone: (443) 778-8748

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How do I add a Tab to a Marker using Glossary

[Brenda Waltermeyer]

I have a generated file for my acronyms and abbreviations. I am using FM on
a PC.
When we used FM on a MAC we would just put in the Marker box (Glossary) and
type:

JHU/APL\tThe Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
And then press edit marker

Once we are done with marking all other acronyms, we would generate the
file. 
It would put the tab for us and we would have  list:
JHU/APL The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
etc..


On the PC side when we do this we do not get the Tab in our generated file
It shows up as:
JHU/APL\tThe Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory

No Tab.

How do I put in a tab in the Marker box and get it to generate properly?



Brenda L. Waltermeyer
Lead Desktop Publisher
The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
National Security Technology Department
Visual Information, Editorial, and Web Services, STB-4 Section
Room 8-375
Phone: (443) 778-8748

How do I add a Tab to a Marker using Glossary

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Brenda,

In place of \t, try using \x08.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


>I have a generated file for my acronyms and abbreviations. I am using FM on
> a PC.
> When we used FM on a MAC we would just put in the Marker box (Glossary) 
> and
> type:
>
>JHU/APL\tThe Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
>And then press edit marker
>
> Once we are done with marking all other acronyms, we would generate the
> file.
> It would put the tab for us and we would have  list:
>JHU/APL The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
>etc..
>
>
> On the PC side when we do this we do not get the Tab in our generated file
> It shows up as:
>JHU/APL\tThe Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
>
> No Tab.
>
> How do I put in a tab in the Marker box and get it to generate properly?
>
>
> 
> Brenda L. Waltermeyer
> Lead Desktop Publisher
> The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
> National Security Technology Department
> Visual Information, Editorial, and Web Services, STB-4 Section
> Room 8-375
> Phone: (443) 778-8748

Re: Glossary tools

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Joe,

If you have FrameScript 4.0R2 and MSXML 4, you can easily extract a single 
element from an XML file. You could also avoid the XML step entirely with 
FrameScript.


Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

I am using Frame.

I discovered a neat feature of FM 7.1 that helps a lot.

You can save a .FM file as XML, *even if it's unstructured*. It will use
your paragraph and character tag names as elements, so if you're looking
for all strings that you've marked with the character tag Term, you
just need to search for Termblah/Term.

Very handy!

I have to caution you that since it's XML, it is *not* line-oriented.
You can't use a typical search and replace tool (like sed) that is
line-oriented. Fortunately, I know how to handle this.

Joe


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RE: Glossary tools

[Joe Malin]

Yeah, but I haven't saved up enough yet to buy FrameScript. We'll see
how things go this week; I may be able to get my company to buy it. 


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Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 6:03 AM
To: Joe Malin; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Glossary tools

Hi Joe,

If you have FrameScript 4.0R2 and MSXML 4, you can easily extract a
single element from an XML file. You could also avoid the XML step
entirely with FrameScript.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

I am using Frame.

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RE: Glossary tools

[John Wilcox]

 From: Dick Margulis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 Find and replace?
 
 I don't know whether you're in Word, Frame, or something else, but the
 logic is the same in any case.
...
 2. Search for everything that is NOT tagged with your special tag and
 replace it with a single space character. If you check the wildcards
 option in Word, you can search for NOT-something.

How do you search for NOT something in Frame?

_
Regards,
John Wilcox, Technical Writer
Zetron, Redmond


  

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Glossary tools

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Joe,

If you have FrameScript 4.0R2 and MSXML 4, you can easily extract a single 
element from an XML file. You could also avoid the XML step entirely with 
FrameScript.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

I am using Frame.

I discovered a neat feature of FM 7.1 that helps a lot.

You can save a .FM file as XML, *even if it's unstructured*. It will use
your paragraph and character tag names as elements, so if you're looking
for all strings that you've marked with the character tag "Term", you
just need to search for blah.

Very handy!

I have to caution you that since it's XML, it is *not* line-oriented.
You can't use a typical search and replace tool (like "sed") that is
line-oriented. Fortunately, I know how to handle this.

Joe


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Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com
www.tuvox.com
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Glossary tools

[Joe Malin]

Yeah, but I haven't saved up enough yet to buy FrameScript. We'll see
how things go this week; I may be able to get my company to buy it. 


 Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com 
www.tuvox.com
The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not
necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Rick Quatro [mailto:frameexp...@truevine.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 6:03 AM
To: Joe Malin; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Glossary tools

Hi Joe,

If you have FrameScript 4.0R2 and MSXML 4, you can easily extract a
single element from an XML file. You could also avoid the XML step
entirely with FrameScript.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

I am using Frame.

Glossary tools

[John Wilcox]

> From: Dick Margulis [mailto:margulisd at comcast.net] 

> Find and replace?
> 
> I don't know whether you're in Word, Frame, or something else, but the
> logic is the same in any case.
...
> 2. Search for everything that is NOT tagged with your special tag and
> replace it with a single space character. If you check the wildcards
> option in Word, you can search for NOT-something.

How do you search for NOT something in Frame?

_
Regards,
John Wilcox, Technical Writer
Zetron, Redmond

Glossary tools

[Maxwell Hoffmann]

Joe,

Here is another technique (somewhat manual) to segregate and alphabetize
your desired terms into a glossary.

Use the FIND command to find "character tag"  (put character tag name in
field.) When you find first instance, open up the Special=>Marker window
and choose "glossary". The selected text is already copied into the
marker window. Click on the [New Marker] button. Repeat FIND to select
next instance, and repeat creating new marker. If you are in windows,
CTR-SH f  -- is the short cut for "find next."  ALT s m  -- is a
shortcut for opening the markers windows. 

When you are finished, Special=>Index of ... markers ... choose
"glossary" for type and generate. In the generated Index of Markers
document, you can manually delete the alpha sort characters and page
numbers. Or, you can edit the "IOM" reference page to have the document
not generate page numbers (delete <$pagenum>); go back to the source
document and regenerate the IOM document. In the generated file you can
search for [paragraph tag] "GroupTitlesIOM" and "change all" in doc
with text [blank] ... this will leave a generated document that only
contains an alpha sorted list of your terms.

If you have in-house expertise to develop a FrameMaker plug-in, it would
be fairly easy to automate these steps.

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Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:20:35 -0700
From: "Joe Malin" <jma...@tuvox.com>
Subject: Glossary tools
To: ,  
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Hi!

Scattered through my current book I have important terms that I'd like
to collect into a glossary. These terms are marked with a special
character tag that only they use. Does anyone out there have a great
idea for a tool or process (or both) that would help me collect the
terms? I don't really need their *definitions*, just the words
themselves.

Joe


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Glossary tools

[Joe Malin]

Hi!
 
Scattered through my current book I have important terms that I'd like
to collect into a glossary. These terms are marked with a special
character tag that only they use. Does anyone out there have a great
idea for a tool or process (or both) that would help me collect the
terms? I don't really need their *definitions*, just the words
themselves.
 
Joe
 

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RE: Glossary tools

[Joe Malin]

I am using Frame.

I discovered a neat feature of FM 7.1 that helps a lot.

You can save a .FM file as XML, *even if it's unstructured*. It will use
your paragraph and character tag names as elements, so if you're looking
for all strings that you've marked with the character tag Term, you
just need to search for Termblah/Term.

Very handy!

I have to caution you that since it's XML, it is *not* line-oriented.
You can't use a typical search and replace tool (like sed) that is
line-oriented. Fortunately, I know how to handle this.

Joe


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From: Dick Margulis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 4:55 PM
To: Joe Malin
Subject: Re: Glossary tools

Find and replace?

I don't know whether you're in Word, Frame, or something else, but the
logic is the same in any case.

1. Make a copy of the document (you're about to trash it, so this is
strictly a scratch copy).

2. Search for everything that is NOT tagged with your special tag and
replace it with a single space character. If you check the wildcards
option in Word, you can search for NOT-something.

3. Search for a two spaces and replace with one space (or, if you have
large quantities of white space left after step 2, search for ten spaces
and replace with one space, then nine, then eight, ... then two).

4. When you're down to just your glossary words and single spaces
between them, replace the spaces with hard returns and you're done.



Joe Malin wrote:
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Glossary tools

[Joe Malin]

Hi!

Scattered through my current book I have important terms that I'd like
to collect into a glossary. These terms are marked with a special
character tag that only they use. Does anyone out there have a great
idea for a tool or process (or both) that would help me collect the
terms? I don't really need their *definitions*, just the words
themselves.

Joe


TuVox, Inc.


19050 Pruneridge Avenue Suite 150, Cupertino, CA 95014-0715

Joe Malin   
Technical Writer
(408)625.1623   
jmalin at tuvox.com 
www.tuvox.com <http://www.tuvox.com/>   
The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not
necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc.

Glossary tools

[Joe Malin]

I am using Frame.

I discovered a neat feature of FM 7.1 that helps a lot.

You can save a .FM file as XML, *even if it's unstructured*. It will use
your paragraph and character tag names as elements, so if you're looking
for all strings that you've marked with the character tag "Term", you
just need to search for blah.

Very handy!

I have to caution you that since it's XML, it is *not* line-oriented.
You can't use a typical search and replace tool (like "sed") that is
line-oriented. Fortunately, I know how to handle this.

Joe


 Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com 
www.tuvox.com
The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not
necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Dick Margulis [mailto:margul...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 4:55 PM
To: Joe Malin
Subject: Re: Glossary tools

Find and replace?

I don't know whether you're in Word, Frame, or something else, but the
logic is the same in any case.

1. Make a copy of the document (you're about to trash it, so this is
strictly a scratch copy).

2. Search for everything that is NOT tagged with your special tag and
replace it with a single space character. If you check the wildcards
option in Word, you can search for NOT-something.

3. Search for a two spaces and replace with one space (or, if you have
large quantities of white space left after step 2, search for ten spaces
and replace with one space, then nine, then eight, ... then two).

4. When you're down to just your glossary words and single spaces
between them, replace the spaces with hard returns and you're done.



Joe Malin wrote:

Re: Glossary

[Stuart Rogers]

Anne Robotti wrote:

I don't know why I can't do this.

I'm trying to set up a glossary. I've done it a million times. This is
what I want it to look like:

bterm/b definition (not bold)

I don't know if I'm setting up the marker wrong, or the reference page,
or the paragraph tags, but I can't make it work. All the text is there,
but I can't make the term bold, then tab, then put the definition
unbolded.



You could do that with a pgf tag for the term that has the font bold and 
the pagination set to Run-In; press Enter, not Tab, then use a non-bold 
pgf tag for your definition.


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RE: Glossary

[Anne Robotti]

 You could do that with a pgf tag for the term that has the 
 font bold and the pagination set to Run-In; press Enter, not 
 Tab, then use a non-bold pgf tag for your definition.

Stuart, THANK YOU! That did the trick. I think that's how I did it
before, although of course the truth is lost in the mists of time.

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RE: Glossary

[Steve Rickaby]

Anne

You might not wish to go to these lengths, but the way we do glossaries is to 
set them up in a two-column [untitled, unruled) table, term in left-hand 
column, definition in right-hand column. We then insert glossary terms in the 
book text using xrefs to the glossary.

What this gets you:

. Ability to alphasort glossary terms with one command

. Simple formatting by adjusting column widths

. Easy way to apply special formatting to term in body text or glossary

. Guarantee that term is quoted in text exactly as it appears in glossary

. 'Free' hyperlinks in a PDF from a term to its definition

. Structure that Mif2Gos fairly simply to get pop-up glossary definitions in 
Windows help

. Easy method of spotting terms that are defined but not referenced (look for 
terms with no hyperlink)

. Guarantee that terms that are not defined in the glossary, but should be, 
will be spotted

You can use exactly the same idea for bibliographies.
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Glossary

[Anne Robotti]

I don't know why I can't do this.

I'm trying to set up a glossary. I've done it a million times. This is
what I want it to look like:

term definition (not bold)

I don't know if I'm setting up the marker wrong, or the reference page,
or the paragraph tags, but I can't make it work. All the text is there,
but I can't make the term bold, then tab, then put the definition
unbolded.

Could somebody please walk me through it before I lose my mind?!

Thanks.



Anne Robotti
Technical Writer



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Glossary

[Stuart Rogers]

Anne Robotti wrote:
> I don't know why I can't do this.
> 
> I'm trying to set up a glossary. I've done it a million times. This is
> what I want it to look like:
> 
> term definition (not bold)
> 
> I don't know if I'm setting up the marker wrong, or the reference page,
> or the paragraph tags, but I can't make it work. All the text is there,
> but I can't make the term bold, then tab, then put the definition
> unbolded.
> 

You could do that with a pgf tag for the term that has the font bold and 
the pagination set to Run-In; press Enter, not Tab, then use a non-bold 
pgf tag for your definition.

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Glossary

[Anne Robotti]

> You could do that with a pgf tag for the term that has the 
> font bold and the pagination set to Run-In; press Enter, not 
> Tab, then use a non-bold pgf tag for your definition.

Stuart, THANK YOU! That did the trick. I think that's how I did it
before, although of course the truth is lost in the mists of time.

Anne



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Glossary

[Steve Rickaby]

Anne

You might not wish to go to these lengths, but the way we do glossaries is to 
set them up in a two-column [untitled, unruled) table, term in left-hand 
column, definition in right-hand column. We then insert glossary terms in the 
book text using xrefs to the glossary.

What this gets you:

. Ability to alphasort glossary terms with one command

. Simple formatting by adjusting column widths

. Easy way to apply special formatting to term in body text or glossary

. Guarantee that term is quoted in text exactly as it appears in glossary

. 'Free' hyperlinks in a PDF from a term to its definition

. Structure that Mif2Gos fairly simply to get pop-up glossary definitions in 
Windows help

. Easy method of spotting terms that are defined but not referenced (look for 
terms with no hyperlink)

. Guarantee that terms that are not defined in the glossary, but should be, 
will be spotted

You can use exactly the same idea for bibliographies.
-- 
Steve