Re: Hypertext links in Acrobat 8 documents generated from FrameMaker 8

2007-12-20 Thread Shlomo Perets
Austin Meredith wrote:

Having recently upgraded on the XP PC from Adobe FrameMaker 7 and
Acrobat Pro 7 to FM8.0p266 and Acrobat Pro 8.1.1 and Adobe Reader
8.1.1, we can't get our distilled hypertext buttons to function
anymore. ... ...
However, now, whenever one punches a hypertext button on a web page
that we have generated, the error message we always get is There was
an error while performing an action. Attempt to call a method that
has not been implemented. These are hypertext buttons that work fine
on the PC, in connecting one FrameMaker8 document to another
FrameMaker8 document -- but in between two distilled Acrobat8
documents on the web, none of them work at all. ...

This is related to the Unicode-encoded linking, introduced in FrameMaker 
8.0 (I reported potential implications of this in the FrameUsers list and 
AdobeForums, back in August).

See http://www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html#FM80 for more information and 
sample files.

I am not aware of any way to control this from within FrameMaker 8.0.
As part of my work on the next version of FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers, I added 
a function that changes the Unicode-encoded links to the previous link format.


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker
FrameMaker/Acrobat training  consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
TimeSavers/Assistants



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Re: Hypertext links in Acrobat 8 documents generated from FrameMaker 8

2007-12-20 Thread Austin Meredith

Could this be your problem, taken from the Microtype FM8 bug list 
(http://www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html):
Cross-file links in PDFs authored in FrameMaker 8.0 use 
Unicode-encoded file paths and file names, which are only supported 
in Windows Acrobat/Reader 8.x or MacOS Acrobat/Reader 7.x or later.
As a result, cross-file links are not functional when the PDF is 
displayed in earlier Acrobat/Reader versions, even though the target 
files are present.
When clicking the cross-file links, the following message is 
displayed: There was an error opening this document. The path does 
not exist. Some PDFs with cross-file links trigger the following 
message upon opening in Acrobat/Reader versions earlier than 8: 
This file appears to use a new format... Adobe recommends that you 
upgrade to the latest version of our Acrobat products

Actually, Kanti, we are using FM8.0p266 and Acrobat Pro 8.1.1 and 
Adobe Reader 8.1.1, the very latest stuff, and *still* the links 
don't work. However, Shlomo Perets of MicroType says he has known 
about this FM problem all along, and is working on a new version of 
his software, which he offers will shortly resolve this problem with 
Unicode-encoded file paths and file names, at a cost of some $200. 
I'll gladly take it out of my own paycheck.

We feel betrayed by Adobe. How could they have offered us an 
upgrade that is so secretly crippled? For our project, this is like 
sabotage. We've got my fingers crossed, that we're going to be able 
to recover from this successfully. Even in the best of all possible 
scenarios, after Shlomo distributes his new software there is going 
to be a hell of a lot of work here, weeks and weeks of work, 
re-distilling all these PDF files and uploading them again to the 
internet website.
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Hypertext links in Acrobat 8 documents generated from FrameMaker 8

2007-12-20 Thread Shlomo Perets
Austin Meredith wrote:

>Having recently upgraded on the XP PC from Adobe FrameMaker 7 and
>Acrobat Pro 7 to FM8.0p266 and Acrobat Pro 8.1.1 and Adobe Reader
>8.1.1, we can't get our distilled hypertext buttons to function
>anymore. ... ...
>However, now, whenever one punches a hypertext button on a web page
>that we have generated, the error message we always get is "There was
>an error while performing an action. Attempt to call a method that
>has not been implemented." These are hypertext buttons that work fine
>on the PC, in connecting one FrameMaker8 document to another
>FrameMaker8 document -- but in between two distilled Acrobat8
>documents on the web, none of them work at all. ...

This is related to the Unicode-encoded linking, introduced in FrameMaker 
8.0 (I reported potential implications of this in the FrameUsers list and 
AdobeForums, back in August).

See http://www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html#FM80 for more information and 
sample files.

I am not aware of any way to control this from within FrameMaker 8.0.
As part of my work on the next version of FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers, I added 
a function that changes the Unicode-encoded links to the previous link format.


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker
FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
TimeSavers/Assistants





Hypertext links in Acrobat 8 documents generated from FrameMaker 8

2007-12-20 Thread Austin Meredith

>Could this be your problem, taken from the Microtype FM8 bug list 
>(http://www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html):
>Cross-file links in PDFs authored in FrameMaker 8.0 use 
>Unicode-encoded file paths and file names, which are only supported 
>in Windows Acrobat/Reader 8.x or MacOS Acrobat/Reader 7.x or later.
>As a result, cross-file links are not functional when the PDF is 
>displayed in earlier Acrobat/Reader versions, even though the target 
>files are present.
>When clicking the cross-file links, the following message is 
>displayed: "There was an error opening this document. The path does 
>not exist". Some PDFs with cross-file links trigger the following 
>message upon opening in Acrobat/Reader versions earlier than 8: 
>"This file appears to use a new format... Adobe recommends that you 
>upgrade to the latest version of our Acrobat products...".

Actually, Kanti, we are using FM8.0p266 and Acrobat Pro 8.1.1 and 
Adobe Reader 8.1.1, the very latest stuff, and *still* the links 
don't work. However, Shlomo Perets of MicroType says he has known 
about this FM problem all along, and is working on a new version of 
his software, which he offers will shortly resolve this problem with 
Unicode-encoded file paths and file names, at a cost of some $200. 
I'll gladly take it out of my own paycheck.

We feel betrayed by Adobe. How could they have offered us an 
"upgrade" that is so secretly crippled? For our project, this is like 
sabotage. We've got my fingers crossed, that we're going to be able 
to recover from this successfully. Even in the best of all possible 
scenarios, after Shlomo distributes his new software there is going 
to be a hell of a lot of work here, weeks and weeks of work, 
re-distilling all these PDF files and uploading them again to the 
internet website.


Hypertext links in Acrobat 8 documents generated from FrameMaker 8

2007-12-20 Thread kanti.m...@schange.com
Hello Austin:

Could this be your problem, taken from the Microtype FM8 bug list (
http://www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html):

Cross-file links in PDFs authored in FrameMaker 8.0 use Unicode-encoded 
file paths and file names, which are only supported in Windows 
Acrobat/Reader 8.x or MacOS Acrobat/Reader 7.x or later. 
As a result, cross-file links are not functional when the PDF is displayed 
in earlier Acrobat/Reader versions, even though the target files are 
present. 
When clicking the cross-file links, the following message is displayed: 
"There was an error opening this document. The path does not exist". Some 
PDFs with cross-file links trigger the following message upon opening in 
Acrobat/Reader versions earlier than 8: "This file appears to use a new 
format... Adobe recommends that you upgrade to the latest version of our 
Acrobat products...".  


Kanti 



Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:33:26 -0500
From: Austin Meredith <ashley_mered...@brown.edu>
Subject: Re: Hypertext links in Acrobat 8 documents generated from
 FrameMaker 8
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID: <200712192233.lBJMXWv5007889 at perseus.services.brown.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Having recently upgraded on the XP PC from Adobe FrameMaker 7 and 
Acrobat Pro 7 to FM8.0p266 and Acrobat Pro 8.1.1 and Adobe Reader 
8.1.1, we can't get our distilled hypertext buttons to function 
anymore. Our Kouroo project is dead in the water!

We've tried "View Generated PDF in Acrobat," and we've tried 
"Generate PDF Bookmarks," and we've tried "Generate Tagged PDF," and 
"Create Named Destinations for All Paragraphs," etc.

The routine, which worked fine in FM7 in distilling Acrobat7 docs, 
but doesn't seem to be functioning for us in version 8, has been 
while distilling to "Embed All Page Thumbnails," and to "Manage 
Embedded Index," and to "Automatically generate web links on All 
pages," and to add a document description under "Properties," and to 
"Reduce File Size," and then to "Enable for Commenting and Analysis 
in Adobe Reader."

However, now, whenever one punches a hypertext button on a web page 
that we have generated, the error message we always get is "There was 
an error while performing an action. Attempt to call a method that 
has not been implemented." These are hypertext buttons that work fine 
on the PC, in connecting one FrameMaker8 document to another 
FrameMaker8 document -- but in between two distilled Acrobat8 
documents on the web, none of them work at all.

An example of this would be the interplay between 
http://www.kouroo.info/kouroo/thumbnails/G/TheGrimkeSisters.pdf and 
http://www.kouroo.info/kouroo/thumbnails/W/TheodoreWeld.pdf

Please somebody -- tell me that you do this successfully, that it 
does still work in 8??? Reassurance would help a lot at this point.



Re: Hypertext links in Acrobat 8 documents generated from FrameMaker 8

2007-12-19 Thread Austin Meredith
Having recently upgraded on the XP PC from Adobe FrameMaker 7 and 
Acrobat Pro 7 to FM8.0p266 and Acrobat Pro 8.1.1 and Adobe Reader 
8.1.1, we can't get our distilled hypertext buttons to function 
anymore. Our Kouroo project is dead in the water!

We've tried View Generated PDF in Acrobat, and we've tried 
Generate PDF Bookmarks, and we've tried Generate Tagged PDF, and 
Create Named Destinations for All Paragraphs, etc.

The routine, which worked fine in FM7 in distilling Acrobat7 docs, 
but doesn't seem to be functioning for us in version 8, has been 
while distilling to Embed All Page Thumbnails, and to Manage 
Embedded Index, and to Automatically generate web links on All 
pages, and to add a document description under Properties, and to 
Reduce File Size, and then to Enable for Commenting and Analysis 
in Adobe Reader.

However, now, whenever one punches a hypertext button on a web page 
that we have generated, the error message we always get is There was 
an error while performing an action. Attempt to call a method that 
has not been implemented. These are hypertext buttons that work fine 
on the PC, in connecting one FrameMaker8 document to another 
FrameMaker8 document -- but in between two distilled Acrobat8 
documents on the web, none of them work at all.

An example of this would be the interplay between 
http://www.kouroo.info/kouroo/thumbnails/G/TheGrimkeSisters.pdf and 
http://www.kouroo.info/kouroo/thumbnails/W/TheodoreWeld.pdf

Please somebody -- tell me that you do this successfully, that it 
does still work in 8??? Reassurance would help a lot at this point.


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Hypertext links in Acrobat 8 documents generated from FrameMaker 8

2007-12-19 Thread Austin Meredith
Having recently upgraded on the XP PC from Adobe FrameMaker 7 and 
Acrobat Pro 7 to FM8.0p266 and Acrobat Pro 8.1.1 and Adobe Reader 
8.1.1, we can't get our distilled hypertext buttons to function 
anymore. Our Kouroo project is dead in the water!

We've tried "View Generated PDF in Acrobat," and we've tried 
"Generate PDF Bookmarks," and we've tried "Generate Tagged PDF," and 
"Create Named Destinations for All Paragraphs," etc.

The routine, which worked fine in FM7 in distilling Acrobat7 docs, 
but doesn't seem to be functioning for us in version 8, has been 
while distilling to "Embed All Page Thumbnails," and to "Manage 
Embedded Index," and to "Automatically generate web links on All 
pages," and to add a document description under "Properties," and to 
"Reduce File Size," and then to "Enable for Commenting and Analysis 
in Adobe Reader."

However, now, whenever one punches a hypertext button on a web page 
that we have generated, the error message we always get is "There was 
an error while performing an action. Attempt to call a method that 
has not been implemented." These are hypertext buttons that work fine 
on the PC, in connecting one FrameMaker8 document to another 
FrameMaker8 document -- but in between two distilled Acrobat8 
documents on the web, none of them work at all.

An example of this would be the interplay between 
http://www.kouroo.info/kouroo/thumbnails/G/TheGrimkeSisters.pdf and 
http://www.kouroo.info/kouroo/thumbnails/W/TheodoreWeld.pdf

Please somebody -- tell me that you do this successfully, that it 
does still work in 8??? Reassurance would help a lot at this point.




Hypertext links in Acrobat 8 documents generated from FrameMaker 8

2007-12-18 Thread Austin Meredith
I've recently upgraded to FM8 and Acrobat8 and now the new links in 
the Acrobat documents I am generating won't function.

I suspect I must have had some option set in my old Acrobat7 that I 
have forgotten to set in my new Acrobat8, because the links I used to 
generate still function. However, ADVANCED  DOCUMENT PROCESSING  
CREATE LINKS FROM URLS doesn't activate my new links. -- What toggle 
have I forgotten about?


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RE: Hypertext links in Acrobat 8 documents generated from FrameMaker 8

2007-12-18 Thread Combs, Richard
Austin Meredith wrote:
 
 I've recently upgraded to FM8 and Acrobat8 and now the new 
 links in the Acrobat documents I am generating won't function.
 
 I suspect I must have had some option set in my old Acrobat7 
 that I have forgotten to set in my new Acrobat8, because the 
 links I used to generate still function. However, ADVANCED  
 DOCUMENT PROCESSING  CREATE LINKS FROM URLS doesn't activate 
 my new links. -- What toggle have I forgotten about?

I don't have FM8, but my guess is that the problem is in FM, not
Acrobat. You probably haven't set up FM to generate Acrobat data (in the
Print dialog in earlier versions) or done the PDF setup. (I don't know
if, in FM8, you still need to create named destinations for all
paragraphs to avoid broken links.)

The Acrobat links from URLs function is totally unrelated. It finds
strings in the PDF that look like URLs (e.g., http://blahblah,
mailto:blahblah) and makes hyperlinks out of them. It can't do anything
with FM xrefs or text that you intend to be a link, but isn't an actual
URL. 

Personally, I think the links from URLs function is a bad idea, and I
have it turned off. I want to decide -- in FM, by inserting a hyperlink
-- where links are created, not leave it up to Acrobat.

HTH!
Richard


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Hypertext links in Acrobat 8 documents generated from FrameMaker 8

2007-12-18 Thread Austin Meredith
I've recently upgraded to FM8 and Acrobat8 and now the new links in 
the Acrobat documents I am generating won't function.

I suspect I must have had some option set in my old Acrobat7 that I 
have forgotten to set in my new Acrobat8, because the links I used to 
generate still function. However, ADVANCED > DOCUMENT PROCESSING > 
CREATE LINKS FROM URLS doesn't activate my new links. -- What toggle 
have I forgotten about?




Hypertext links in Acrobat 8 documents generated from FrameMaker 8

2007-12-18 Thread Combs, Richard
Austin Meredith wrote:

> I've recently upgraded to FM8 and Acrobat8 and now the new 
> links in the Acrobat documents I am generating won't function.
> 
> I suspect I must have had some option set in my old Acrobat7 
> that I have forgotten to set in my new Acrobat8, because the 
> links I used to generate still function. However, ADVANCED > 
> DOCUMENT PROCESSING > CREATE LINKS FROM URLS doesn't activate 
> my new links. -- What toggle have I forgotten about?

I don't have FM8, but my guess is that the problem is in FM, not
Acrobat. You probably haven't set up FM to generate Acrobat data (in the
Print dialog in earlier versions) or done the PDF setup. (I don't know
if, in FM8, you still need to create named destinations for all
paragraphs to avoid broken links.)

The Acrobat links from URLs function is totally unrelated. It finds
strings in the PDF that look like URLs (e.g., "http://blahblah,
mailto:blahblah) and makes hyperlinks out of them. It can't do anything
with FM xrefs or text that you intend to be a link, but isn't an actual
URL. 

Personally, I think the links from URLs function is a bad idea, and I
have it turned off. I want to decide -- in FM, by inserting a hyperlink
-- where links are created, not leave it up to Acrobat.

HTH!
Richard


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Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
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303-777-0436
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