I seem to have found an interesting bug/limitation with Tables that stretch across multiple pages

2008-03-28 Thread Alan Litchfield
Hi Syed,

IIRC this is normal and is to do with how FM handles header rows on  
multiple page tables. I had the same problem with 5.5.1 and found that  
FM replicates the header row from the first page an so they are not  
actually text as such. It is for this reason that anything in them is  
not editable or clickable. That is, the header row content is only  
displayed on subsequent pages.

Adding text frames on them may work but in the end I had to add links  
in Acrobat after the pdf had been generated.

Cheers
Alan

On 28/03/2008, at 1:40 PM,  wrote:

>
> I am seeing a bug, or certainly a limitation that is very irritating!
> Can someone tell me if my assumptions/observations are incorrect here,
> please!
>
> This is with FrameMaker 8.0 with the p273 (latest) patches.

> 1.  In one of my documents, I have a table with many rows that  
> stretches
> across multiple pages.
>
> 2.  The top header row is set to "repeat" (i.e., show) at the top of  
> the
> table on all subsequent page, so the columns all have a "row header"  
> on
> all subsequent pages.
>
> 3.  As an aside, I also use the automatic feature to add the
> "(Continued)" at the end of the table title (which is also repeated at
> the top, of course).
>
> 4.  The very first page header row has hypertext on the individual  
> words
> in each column (that do a "gotolink ..." to the explanation and
> definition of the word). Clearly, I cannot add this hypertext on the
> subsequent table pages, since "header row" on the subsequent pages is
> not selectable in any way.
>
> Now, here is the sumptom I am observing:
>
>
>
> 1.  After I output the book as a PDF, the hypertext on the first page
> header row of the table in the PDF output works perfectly!
>
>
>
> 2.  It shows up as a clickable "link" (the mouse pointer changes  
> from an
> arrow to a finger) and clicking on the word indeed takes me to the  
> other
> part of the document.
>
>
>
> 3.  But, in the header rows on subsequent pages in the PDF, that same
> word is (a) not clickable - the mouse pointer does not change - and  
> (b)
> clicking it has no effect, obviously!
>
>
>
> To me, this is a bug!
>
>
>
> But, I want to ask if I am doing something incorrect here!
>
>
>
> Or, is there a workaround to this problem?
>
>
>
> Z
>
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I seem to have found an interesting bug/limitation with Tables that stretch across multiple pages

2008-03-27 Thread Syed.Hosain
Hi, all.

 

I am seeing a bug, or certainly a limitation that is very irritating!
Can someone tell me if my assumptions/observations are incorrect here,
please!

 

This is with FrameMaker 8.0 with the p273 (latest) patches.

 

1.  In one of my documents, I have a table with many rows that stretches
across multiple pages.

 

2.  The top header row is set to repeat (i.e., show) at the top of the
table on all subsequent page, so the columns all have a row header on
all subsequent pages.

 

3.  As an aside, I also use the automatic feature to add the
(Continued) at the end of the table title (which is also repeated at
the top, of course).

 

4.  The very first page header row has hypertext on the individual words
in each column (that do a gotolink ... to the explanation and
definition of the word). Clearly, I cannot add this hypertext on the
subsequent table pages, since header row on the subsequent pages is
not selectable in any way.

 

Now, here is the sumptom I am observing:

 

1.  After I output the book as a PDF, the hypertext on the first page
header row of the table in the PDF output works perfectly!

 

2.  It shows up as a clickable link (the mouse pointer changes from an
arrow to a finger) and clicking on the word indeed takes me to the other
part of the document.

 

3.  But, in the header rows on subsequent pages in the PDF, that same
word is (a) not clickable - the mouse pointer does not change - and (b)
clicking it has no effect, obviously!

 

To me, this is a bug!

 

But, I want to ask if I am doing something incorrect here!

 

Or, is there a workaround to this problem?

 

Z

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Re: I seem to have found an interesting bug/limitation with Tables that stretch across multiple pages

2008-03-27 Thread Alan Litchfield
Hi Syed,

IIRC this is normal and is to do with how FM handles header rows on  
multiple page tables. I had the same problem with 5.5.1 and found that  
FM replicates the header row from the first page an so they are not  
actually text as such. It is for this reason that anything in them is  
not editable or clickable. That is, the header row content is only  
displayed on subsequent pages.

Adding text frames on them may work but in the end I had to add links  
in Acrobat after the pdf had been generated.

Cheers
Alan

On 28/03/2008, at 1:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I am seeing a bug, or certainly a limitation that is very irritating!
 Can someone tell me if my assumptions/observations are incorrect here,
 please!

 This is with FrameMaker 8.0 with the p273 (latest) patches.

 1.  In one of my documents, I have a table with many rows that  
 stretches
 across multiple pages.

 2.  The top header row is set to repeat (i.e., show) at the top of  
 the
 table on all subsequent page, so the columns all have a row header  
 on
 all subsequent pages.

 3.  As an aside, I also use the automatic feature to add the
 (Continued) at the end of the table title (which is also repeated at
 the top, of course).

 4.  The very first page header row has hypertext on the individual  
 words
 in each column (that do a gotolink ... to the explanation and
 definition of the word). Clearly, I cannot add this hypertext on the
 subsequent table pages, since header row on the subsequent pages is
 not selectable in any way.

 Now, here is the sumptom I am observing:



 1.  After I output the book as a PDF, the hypertext on the first page
 header row of the table in the PDF output works perfectly!



 2.  It shows up as a clickable link (the mouse pointer changes  
 from an
 arrow to a finger) and clicking on the word indeed takes me to the  
 other
 part of the document.



 3.  But, in the header rows on subsequent pages in the PDF, that same
 word is (a) not clickable - the mouse pointer does not change - and  
 (b)
 clicking it has no effect, obviously!



 To me, this is a bug!



 But, I want to ask if I am doing something incorrect here!



 Or, is there a workaround to this problem?



 Z

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RE: I seem to have found an interesting bug/limitation with Tables that stretch across multiple pages

2008-03-27 Thread Syed.Hosain
Thanks, Alan! That seems to be the consensus of all the replies I have
received.

For me, it is just too much work to go editing the PDF output each time
I generate it and send it out for review (I use PDF as my review format,
since not everybody has FrameMaker here) ... things in the document are
way too much in flux right now for that to be even remotely workable,
since all the tables are moving on the pages quite a bit as I add and
delete text that comes before them.

I guess I will live with the limitation ... :( ... or maybe just remove
the hypertext links from the table column titles for consistency at
least!

Z

 -Original Message-
 From: Alan Litchfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:48 PM
 To: Syed Zaeem Hosain ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: I seem to have found an interesting bug/limitation with
Tables that stretch across
 multiple pages
 
 Hi Syed,
 
 IIRC this is normal and is to do with how FM handles header rows on
 multiple page tables. I had the same problem with 5.5.1 and found that
 FM replicates the header row from the first page an so they are not
 actually text as such. It is for this reason that anything in them is
 not editable or clickable. That is, the header row content is only
 displayed on subsequent pages.
 
 Adding text frames on them may work but in the end I had to add links
 in Acrobat after the pdf had been generated.
 
 Cheers
 Alan
 
 On 28/03/2008, at 1:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  I am seeing a bug, or certainly a limitation that is very
irritating!
  Can someone tell me if my assumptions/observations are incorrect
here,
  please!
 
  This is with FrameMaker 8.0 with the p273 (latest) patches.
 
  1.  In one of my documents, I have a table with many rows that
  stretches
  across multiple pages.
 
  2.  The top header row is set to repeat (i.e., show) at the top of
  the
  table on all subsequent page, so the columns all have a row header
  on
  all subsequent pages.
 
  3.  As an aside, I also use the automatic feature to add the
  (Continued) at the end of the table title (which is also repeated
at
  the top, of course).
 
  4.  The very first page header row has hypertext on the individual
  words
  in each column (that do a gotolink ... to the explanation and
  definition of the word). Clearly, I cannot add this hypertext on the
  subsequent table pages, since header row on the subsequent pages
is
  not selectable in any way.
 
  Now, here is the sumptom I am observing:
 
 
 
  1.  After I output the book as a PDF, the hypertext on the first
page
  header row of the table in the PDF output works perfectly!
 
 
 
  2.  It shows up as a clickable link (the mouse pointer changes
  from an
  arrow to a finger) and clicking on the word indeed takes me to the
  other
  part of the document.
 
 
 
  3.  But, in the header rows on subsequent pages in the PDF, that
same
  word is (a) not clickable - the mouse pointer does not change - and
  (b)
  clicking it has no effect, obviously!
 
 
 
  To me, this is a bug!
 
 
 
  But, I want to ask if I am doing something incorrect here!
 
 
 
  Or, is there a workaround to this problem?
 
 
 
  Z
 
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I seem to have found an interesting bug/limitation with Tables that stretch across multiple pages

2008-03-27 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
Hi, all.



I am seeing a bug, or certainly a limitation that is very irritating!
Can someone tell me if my assumptions/observations are incorrect here,
please!



This is with FrameMaker 8.0 with the p273 (latest) patches.



1.  In one of my documents, I have a table with many rows that stretches
across multiple pages.



2.  The top header row is set to "repeat" (i.e., show) at the top of the
table on all subsequent page, so the columns all have a "row header" on
all subsequent pages.



3.  As an aside, I also use the automatic feature to add the
"(Continued)" at the end of the table title (which is also repeated at
the top, of course).



4.  The very first page header row has hypertext on the individual words
in each column (that do a "gotolink ..." to the explanation and
definition of the word). Clearly, I cannot add this hypertext on the
subsequent table pages, since "header row" on the subsequent pages is
not selectable in any way.



Now, here is the sumptom I am observing:



1.  After I output the book as a PDF, the hypertext on the first page
header row of the table in the PDF output works perfectly!



2.  It shows up as a clickable "link" (the mouse pointer changes from an
arrow to a finger) and clicking on the word indeed takes me to the other
part of the document.



3.  But, in the header rows on subsequent pages in the PDF, that same
word is (a) not clickable - the mouse pointer does not change - and (b)
clicking it has no effect, obviously!



To me, this is a bug!



But, I want to ask if I am doing something incorrect here!



Or, is there a workaround to this problem?



Z



I seem to have found an interesting bug/limitation with Tables that stretch across multiple pages

2008-03-27 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
Thanks, Alan! That seems to be the consensus of all the replies I have
received.

For me, it is just too much work to go editing the PDF output each time
I generate it and send it out for review (I use PDF as my review format,
since not everybody has FrameMaker here) ... things in the document are
way too much in flux right now for that to be even remotely workable,
since all the tables are "moving" on the pages quite a bit as I add and
delete text that comes before them.

I guess I will live with the limitation ... :( ... or maybe just remove
the hypertext links from the table column titles for consistency at
least!

Z

> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Litchfield [mailto:alan at alphabyte.co.nz]
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:48 PM
> To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: I seem to have found an interesting bug/limitation with
Tables that stretch across
> multiple pages
> 
> Hi Syed,
> 
> IIRC this is normal and is to do with how FM handles header rows on
> multiple page tables. I had the same problem with 5.5.1 and found that
> FM replicates the header row from the first page an so they are not
> actually text as such. It is for this reason that anything in them is
> not editable or clickable. That is, the header row content is only
> displayed on subsequent pages.
> 
> Adding text frames on them may work but in the end I had to add links
> in Acrobat after the pdf had been generated.
> 
> Cheers
> Alan
> 
> On 28/03/2008, at 1:40 PM,  wrote:
> 
> >
> > I am seeing a bug, or certainly a limitation that is very
irritating!
> > Can someone tell me if my assumptions/observations are incorrect
here,
> > please!
> >
> > This is with FrameMaker 8.0 with the p273 (latest) patches.
> 
> > 1.  In one of my documents, I have a table with many rows that
> > stretches
> > across multiple pages.
> >
> > 2.  The top header row is set to "repeat" (i.e., show) at the top of
> > the
> > table on all subsequent page, so the columns all have a "row header"
> > on
> > all subsequent pages.
> >
> > 3.  As an aside, I also use the automatic feature to add the
> > "(Continued)" at the end of the table title (which is also repeated
at
> > the top, of course).
> >
> > 4.  The very first page header row has hypertext on the individual
> > words
> > in each column (that do a "gotolink ..." to the explanation and
> > definition of the word). Clearly, I cannot add this hypertext on the
> > subsequent table pages, since "header row" on the subsequent pages
is
> > not selectable in any way.
> >
> > Now, here is the sumptom I am observing:
> >
> >
> >
> > 1.  After I output the book as a PDF, the hypertext on the first
page
> > header row of the table in the PDF output works perfectly!
> >
> >
> >
> > 2.  It shows up as a clickable "link" (the mouse pointer changes
> > from an
> > arrow to a finger) and clicking on the word indeed takes me to the
> > other
> > part of the document.
> >
> >
> >
> > 3.  But, in the header rows on subsequent pages in the PDF, that
same
> > word is (a) not clickable - the mouse pointer does not change - and
> > (b)
> > clicking it has no effect, obviously!
> >
> >
> >
> > To me, this is a bug!
> >
> >
> >
> > But, I want to ask if I am doing something incorrect here!
> >
> >
> >
> > Or, is there a workaround to this problem?
> >
> >
> >
> > Z
> >
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> 
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