RE: Line width in inported graphics slightly diminishing in FMgenerated PDFs

2006-03-08 Thread Dov Isaacs
I assume that the EPS files are being imported 
as EPS into FrameMaker, correct?

FrameMaker does not modify the content of EPS
imported into documents. It is passed directly to
PostScript printers, which the Distiller acts as
for purpose of creating PDF files. 

HOWEVER, when generating PostScript for the document
at print time, FrameMaker must use generate a page
location and scaling factor for the EPS. I suspect
that somehow the scaling factor being used in the
example you cite is something like 0.. Why is
this happening? Perhaps you are putting a border
on the imported EPS frame? I would need to test this
out, but my best guess is that FrameMaker may be
shrinking the scale factor from 1. to account
for any border applied in FrameMaker itself to the 
EPS file's frame.

- Dov

 

 -Original Message-
 From: frameusers.com On Behalf Of Yosuke Ichikawa
 Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:53 PM
 To: framers@FrameUsers.com
 Subject: Line width in inported graphics slightly diminishing 
 in FMgenerated PDFs
 
 Hi,
 
 We're using Acrobat's preflight feature to check for lines 
 thinner than
 0.2 pts. The thinnest lines in our .eps graphics are exactly 
 0.2 pts, but when we import these graphics in FM and check 
 the PDFs created from FM, Acrobat preflight says the graphics 
 uses 0.199600pt lines.
 
 PDFs of these individual graphics, created from Illustrator, 
 do not have problems with Acrobat prefight, so it seems to be 
 some sort of FM conversion problem.
 
 Why does this happen, and is there any way to prevent this on 
 the FM side? If there is no way to fix this, we'd have to 
 tell our illustrator to make the lines in the graphics 
 slightly thicker.
 
 Windows XP, Illustrator 10, FM 7.1, Acrobat 6.
 
 By the way, is there no way to check the whole list archives 
 any more? I thought I'd search the archives first, but the 
 one I found at the frameusers site was just for the recent few months.
 
 TIA,
 Yosuke 
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Line width in inported graphics slightly diminishing in FMgenerated PDFs

2006-03-08 Thread Dov Isaacs
I assume that the EPS files are being imported 
as EPS into FrameMaker, correct?

FrameMaker does not modify the content of EPS
imported into documents. It is passed directly to
PostScript printers, which the Distiller acts as
for purpose of creating PDF files. 

HOWEVER, when generating PostScript for the document
at print time, FrameMaker must use generate a page
location and scaling factor for the EPS. I suspect
that somehow the scaling factor being used in the
example you cite is something like 0.. Why is
this happening? Perhaps you are putting a border
on the imported EPS frame? I would need to test this
out, but my best guess is that FrameMaker may be
"shrinking" the scale factor from 1. to account
for any border applied in FrameMaker itself to the 
EPS file's frame.

- Dov



> -Original Message-
> From: frameusers.com On Behalf Of Yosuke Ichikawa
> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:53 PM
> To: framers at FrameUsers.com
> Subject: Line width in inported graphics slightly diminishing 
> in FMgenerated PDFs
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We're using Acrobat's preflight feature to check for lines 
> thinner than
> 0.2 pts. The thinnest lines in our .eps graphics are exactly 
> 0.2 pts, but when we import these graphics in FM and check 
> the PDFs created from FM, Acrobat preflight says the graphics 
> uses "0.199600pt" lines.
> 
> PDFs of these individual graphics, created from Illustrator, 
> do not have problems with Acrobat prefight, so it seems to be 
> some sort of FM conversion problem.
> 
> Why does this happen, and is there any way to prevent this on 
> the FM side? If there is no way to fix this, we'd have to 
> tell our illustrator to make the lines in the graphics 
> slightly thicker.
> 
> Windows XP, Illustrator 10, FM 7.1, Acrobat 6.
> 
> By the way, is there no way to check the whole list archives 
> any more? I thought I'd search the archives first, but the 
> one I found at the frameusers site was just for the recent few months.
> 
> TIA,
> Yosuke 



Line width in inported graphics slightly diminishing in FMgenerated PDFs

2006-03-08 Thread Dov Isaacs


> -Original Message-
> From: frameusers.com On Behalf Of Reng, Winfried
> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 4:19 AM
> To: framers at FrameUsers.com
> Subject: AW: Line width in inported graphics slightly 
> diminishing in FMgenerated PDFs
> ...
> 
> When I check the font size in my PDF files there?s also often 
> a difference. E.g. the font size in FrameMaker is 10 pt, and 
> Acrobat says 9.96 pt. (Other text in Acrobat has exactly the 
> same font size as in FrameMaker.) 4 % would be a rather large 
> rounding error.
> I don?t know whether these differences in line width and font 
> size have the same cause.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Winfried

The TEXT issue is indeed different. FrameMaker does not generate
its own PostScript for text. It goes through Windows GDI where
the coordinate system is based on device resolution, not "points."
As such, rounding errors can and will occur, not in FrameMaker
and not in the PostScript driver, but in Windows GDI. Note that
you will see the same thing. Nothing will resolve this for 
FrameMaker unless it generated its own PostScript or PDF directly!