Mark-up in generated structured lists

2006-01-10 Thread Steve Rickaby
Me again... Sarah O'Keefe sort of implies in the 'Complete Reference' that you 
can apply structure to generated lists, but as it gets blown away the next time 
the list is generated, it's best either not to bother, or do it last.

Here's the rub: one generated list document in my current template, a list of 
figures, uses a character tag to format the figure number ('cos it looks nice). 
My EDD is set up so that the individual lines of the generated list can be 
wrapped in appropriate elements if required. However, if I do this, I lose the 
character mark-up.

Is this a dead-end, or is there any way to preserve the character markup?  
-- 
Steve



Mark-up in generated structured lists

2006-01-10 Thread Spreadbury, David
 Steve,
Sure... Create a new element, we use Phrase, and use it to apply what
you apply now with character formats. Works like a champ. We have a
Bold, Emphasis, Superscript, as well as a few others. Character formats,
by themselves, don't work in structure, very well.

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Me again... Sarah O'Keefe sort of implies in the 'Complete Reference'
that you can apply structure to generated lists, but as it gets blown
away the next time the list is generated, it's best either not to
bother, or do it last.

Here's the rub: one generated list document in my current template, a
list of figures, uses a character tag to format the figure number ('cos
it looks nice). My EDD is set up so that the individual lines of the
generated list can be wrapped in appropriate elements if required.
However, if I do this, I lose the character mark-up.

Is this a dead-end, or is there any way to preserve the character
markup?  
--
Steve

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Mark-up in generated structured lists

2006-01-10 Thread Etzel, Gary
This may be overkill, but if you have FrameSLT
(www.weststreetconsulting.com), you can use it to simulate a generated list.
I tried it once just to see if it would work. And it did. It's not a
practical approach for most case. Unstructured generated lists seem to be
just fine for most structured documentation needs. But if structured
generated lists are that important to you, FrameSLT can save you the trouble
of having your structure "blown away" each time you regenerate the lists.

Feel free to contact me off list if you would like some more info on this
approach.

Regards,

Gary


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Subject: Mark-up in generated structured lists

Me again... Sarah O'Keefe sort of implies in the 'Complete Reference' that
you can apply structure to generated lists, but as it gets blown away the
next time the list is generated, it's best either not to bother, or do it
last.

Here's the rub: one generated list document in my current template, a list
of figures, uses a character tag to format the figure number ('cos it looks
nice). My EDD is set up so that the individual lines of the generated list
can be wrapped in appropriate elements if required. However, if I do this, I
lose the character mark-up.

Is this a dead-end, or is there any way to preserve the character markup?  
-- 
Steve

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Mark-up in generated structured lists

2006-01-10 Thread Lester C. Smalley
Steve,

There is no way to preserve the structure of a generated list, but given
the length and usual simplicity of formatting it is easy to rebuild the
structure whenever needed.

If you have control over the EDD, you can modify the content of the
"List of Figures" element so that individual entries can contain text
and also a "figure number" element to wrap the actual figure number.
This element would then specify the desire format properties or a format
change list to control the appearance as desired.  If you include
hypertext links in the LOF, you probably should include a marker-type
element in the organization as well, although that is not strictly
necessary.

Something like this:

LOF  
Valid as the highest-level element.
General Rule: (LOF_Entry)+

LOF_Entry  
General Rule: (, Fig_Num)

Fig_Num  
General Rule: 
Text Format Rules:
1.  Text Range
Use character format: Figure_Number

You will have to add some info to the conversion table, but it is very
straight-forward to wrap the Figure_Number character format into the
Fig_Num element, the FigueLOF paragraph(s) AND the Fig_Num into the
LOF_Entry element, and the series of LOF_Entry elements into the LOF.

On Tuesday, January 10, 2006 02:02 PM, Steve Rickaby wrote:

| Me again... Sarah O'Keefe sort of implies in the 'Complete 
| Reference' that you can apply structure to generated lists, 
| but as it gets blown away the next time the list is 
| generated, it's best either not to bother, or do it last.
| 
| Here's the rub: one generated list document in my current 
| template, a list of figures, uses a character tag to format 
| the figure number ('cos it looks nice). My EDD is set up so 
| that the individual lines of the generated list can be 
| wrapped in appropriate elements if required. However, if I do 
| this, I lose the character mark-up.
| 
| Is this a dead-end, or is there any way to preserve the 
| character markup?  
| --
| Steve

Hope this helps.

- Lester 
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