New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning

2009-06-18 Thread Helen Borrie
At 02:23 AM 18/06/2009, Susan Curtzwiler wrote:
>Hi All, 
>   
> Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise on Compaq laptop. 
>-
> 
>In the pdf setup, I have marked the file to open on pg 1.   However, the file 
>is now opening at the end of the book. 
> 
>Can I make the file open on the Title Page, which has no page number?  
> 
>The title page is in the book window as a separate file -- would it help if I 
>attached the title page to the front matter? 
> 
>What settings do I need ? 
> 

According to the help doc for Fm 8 (and I guess FM 7 is the same):
1. In the PDF Setup dialog box, choose Settings from the pop-up menu, or click 
the Settings tab (Windows/UNIX).

2. Choose an option from the PDF Job Options pop-up menu for creating Adobe PDF 
files. The options include predefined settings plus any custom job options you 
created in Adobe PDF Creation Add-On (Windows), or Normalizer 8 (UNIX). For 
descriptions of the predefined settings, see Job options.
++
In a book, the job options saved with the first file are applied to all files 
in the book. To get the results you want in the exported PDF file, open the 
first file, choose Format > Document > PDF Setup, adjust the settings, and then 
click Set. 
++
3. Type an opening page number and choose a zoom level.

So (assuming FM 7 is the same, of course!) to make this happen naturally, you 
should either make your title page the first file in the book and set the job 
options in that file;  or shift its content into the beginning of the front 
matter and set the job options in that file.

Helen




New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning

2009-06-18 Thread Helen Borrie
At 10:21 AM 18/06/2009, Art Campbell wrote:
>[]
>If you can't find it and you need a quick fix, you may want to
>download the eval version of Acrobat and make the adjustment on a
>different system so you don't mess up your current install.

I found that Acrobat Pro won't save any document edits in trial mode. 

I used to think Acrobat Pro was great - I've had four versions in the past, up 
to and including AP 6.  But Adobe's unpublished upgrade policy has changed all 
that for me. I was having activation problems with Acrobat Pro 8 Upgrade, 
caused by their very first AP 6 update via Flexnet, that support says won't be 
fixed as it's no longer a supported product (all AP8 upgrade keys were 
invalidated on March 1st, apparently!).  I sent the box back to the reseller 
for a refund and set about assessing alternatives.  

Luckily, I found NitroPDF (www.nitropdf.com). Now, for $99, I get everything 
Acro Pro can do and more, everything "just works", and its distiller is 
blazingly fast. *And* there's no FlexNet under the hood, deactivating your 
activated products when it plonks an update into your previously working 
installation.  In short, Nitro makes Acro Pro look very, very ordinary. 

To post-fix Susan's PDFs in Nitro, you can just add a bookmark to your initial 
page, name it 'titlepage' (or anything you like) and then hit Ctrl-D, set the 
initial page in the document properties and Save As...  You can also set other 
initial properties like the zoom level, pages per view and so on.  It even 
supports some properties that only apply to Acrobat Reader, that might or might 
not be important for PDFs generated by Adobe's Distiller.

Still, if the document is going to be maintained, then hacking the PDF isn't a 
very nice solution.  Better to have Frame pass the proper arguments to 
Distiller in the first place.

Helen



New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning

2009-06-17 Thread Susan Curtzwiler
Hi All, 
   
 Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise on Compaq laptop. 
-
 
In the pdf setup, I have marked the file to open on pg 1.   However, the file 
is now opening at the end of the book. 
 
Can I make the file open on the Title Page, which has no page number?  
 
The title page is in the book window as a separate file -- would it help if I 
attached the title page to the front matter? 
 
What settings do I need ? 
 
 
Thanks,
Sue Curtzwiler
susa...@vmc.com
 
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Re: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning

2009-06-17 Thread Writer

Susan:

Do you have Adobe Acrobat? You can renumber the pages there, including giving 
the cover the number Cover. Then you can reset the open to page option to 
Cover.

If you need me to elaborate, let me know.

Nadine

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 From: Susan Curtzwiler susa...@vmc.com
 Subject: New Topic 2:  PDF will not open at beginning
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Cc: Susan Curtzwiler susa...@vmc.com
 Received: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 12:23 PM
 Hi All, 
    
  Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise on
 Compaq laptop. 
 -
  
 In the pdf setup, I have marked the file to open on pg
 1.   However, the file is now opening at the
 end of the book. 
  
 Can I make the file open on the Title Page, which has no
 page number?  
  
 The title page is in the book window as a separate file --
 would it help if I attached the title page to the front
 matter? 
  
 What settings do I need ? 
  
  
 Thanks,
 Sue Curtzwiler
 susa...@vmc.com
  
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RE: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning

2009-06-17 Thread Susan Curtzwiler
Unfortunately, I do not have the full Acrobat, only the distiller and Frame 
7.0. 
 
Thanks,
Sue 



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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Susan Curtzwiler
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Subject: Re: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning




Susan:

Do you have Adobe Acrobat? You can renumber the pages there, including giving 
the cover the number Cover. Then you can reset the open to page option to 
Cover.

If you need me to elaborate, let me know.

Nadine

--- On Wed, 6/17/09, Susan Curtzwiler susa...@vmc.com wrote:

 From: Susan Curtzwiler susa...@vmc.com
 Subject: New Topic 2:  PDF will not open at beginning
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Cc: Susan Curtzwiler susa...@vmc.com
 Received: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 12:23 PM
 Hi All,

  Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise on
 Compaq laptop.
 -
 
 In the pdf setup, I have marked the file to open on pg
 1.   However, the file is now opening at the
 end of the book.
 
 Can I make the file open on the Title Page, which has no
 page number? 
 
 The title page is in the book window as a separate file --
 would it help if I attached the title page to the front
 matter?
 
 What settings do I need ?
 
 
 Thanks,
 Sue Curtzwiler
 susa...@vmc.com
 
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Re: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning

2009-06-17 Thread Art Campbell
Susan,

There's a parameter in the PDF setup or the PDF printer setup that you
can access from the FM Printer page that lets you specify the opening
page, but I don't have a version that old installed so I can't tell
you the exact location.

Assuming the title page is in the book file from which the PDF is
generated, it has a physical page number in Acrobat and within the PDF
-- you probably noticed that the page numbers of the book and the PDF
don't automatically match up.

If you can't find it and you need a quick fix, you may want to
download the eval version of Acrobat and make the adjustment on a
different system so you don't mess up your current install.

Art Campbell
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On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Susan Curtzwilersusa...@vmc.com wrote:
 Unfortunately, I do not have the full Acrobat, only the distiller and Frame 
 7.0.

 Thanks,
 Sue

 

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 Cc: Susan Curtzwiler
 Subject: Re: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning




 Susan:

 Do you have Adobe Acrobat? You can renumber the pages there, including giving 
 the cover the number Cover. Then you can reset the open to page option to 
 Cover.

 If you need me to elaborate, let me know.

 Nadine

 --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Susan Curtzwiler susa...@vmc.com wrote:

 From: Susan Curtzwiler susa...@vmc.com
 Subject: New Topic 2:  PDF will not open at beginning
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Cc: Susan Curtzwiler susa...@vmc.com
 Received: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 12:23 PM
 Hi All,

  Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise on
 Compaq laptop.
 -

 In the pdf setup, I have marked the file to open on pg
 1.   However, the file is now opening at the
 end of the book.

 Can I make the file open on the Title Page, which has no
 page number?

 The title page is in the book window as a separate file --
 would it help if I attached the title page to the front
 matter?

 What settings do I need ?


 Thanks,
 Sue Curtzwiler
 susa...@vmc.com

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Re: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning

2009-06-17 Thread Helen Borrie
At 02:23 AM 18/06/2009, Susan Curtzwiler wrote:
Hi All, 
   
 Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise on Compaq laptop. 
-
 
In the pdf setup, I have marked the file to open on pg 1.   However, the file 
is now opening at the end of the book. 
 
Can I make the file open on the Title Page, which has no page number?  
 
The title page is in the book window as a separate file -- would it help if I 
attached the title page to the front matter? 
 
What settings do I need ? 
 

According to the help doc for Fm 8 (and I guess FM 7 is the same):
1. In the PDF Setup dialog box, choose Settings from the pop-up menu, or click 
the Settings tab (Windows/UNIX).

2. Choose an option from the PDF Job Options pop-up menu for creating Adobe PDF 
files. The options include predefined settings plus any custom job options you 
created in Adobe PDF Creation Add-On (Windows), or Normalizer 8 (UNIX). For 
descriptions of the predefined settings, see Job options.
++
In a book, the job options saved with the first file are applied to all files 
in the book. To get the results you want in the exported PDF file, open the 
first file, choose Format  Document  PDF Setup, adjust the settings, and then 
click Set. 
++
3. Type an opening page number and choose a zoom level.

So (assuming FM 7 is the same, of course!) to make this happen naturally, you 
should either make your title page the first file in the book and set the job 
options in that file;  or shift its content into the beginning of the front 
matter and set the job options in that file.

Helen


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Re: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning

2009-06-17 Thread Helen Borrie
At 10:21 AM 18/06/2009, Art Campbell wrote:
[]
If you can't find it and you need a quick fix, you may want to
download the eval version of Acrobat and make the adjustment on a
different system so you don't mess up your current install.

I found that Acrobat Pro won't save any document edits in trial mode. 

I used to think Acrobat Pro was great - I've had four versions in the past, up 
to and including AP 6.  But Adobe's unpublished upgrade policy has changed all 
that for me. I was having activation problems with Acrobat Pro 8 Upgrade, 
caused by their very first AP 6 update via Flexnet, that support says won't be 
fixed as it's no longer a supported product (all AP8 upgrade keys were 
invalidated on March 1st, apparently!).  I sent the box back to the reseller 
for a refund and set about assessing alternatives.  

Luckily, I found NitroPDF (www.nitropdf.com). Now, for $99, I get everything 
Acro Pro can do and more, everything just works, and its distiller is 
blazingly fast. *And* there's no FlexNet under the hood, deactivating your 
activated products when it plonks an update into your previously working 
installation.  In short, Nitro makes Acro Pro look very, very ordinary. 

To post-fix Susan's PDFs in Nitro, you can just add a bookmark to your initial 
page, name it 'titlepage' (or anything you like) and then hit Ctrl-D, set the 
initial page in the document properties and Save As...  You can also set other 
initial properties like the zoom level, pages per view and so on.  It even 
supports some properties that only apply to Acrobat Reader, that might or might 
not be important for PDFs generated by Adobe's Distiller.

Still, if the document is going to be maintained, then hacking the PDF isn't a 
very nice solution.  Better to have Frame pass the proper arguments to 
Distiller in the first place.

Helen

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New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning

2009-06-17 Thread Susan Curtzwiler
Hi All, 

 Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise on Compaq laptop. 
-

In the pdf setup, I have marked the file to open on pg 1.   However, the file 
is now opening at the end of the book. 

Can I make the file open on the Title Page, which has no page number?  

The title page is in the book window as a separate file -- would it help if I 
attached the title page to the front matter? 

What settings do I need ? 


Thanks,
Sue Curtzwiler
susancu at vmc.com



New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning

2009-06-17 Thread Writer

Susan:

Do you have Adobe Acrobat? You can renumber the pages there, including giving 
the cover the "number" Cover. Then you can reset the "open to page" option to 
Cover.

If you need me to elaborate, let me know.

Nadine

--- On Wed, 6/17/09, Susan Curtzwiler  wrote:

> From: Susan Curtzwiler 
> Subject: New Topic 2:  PDF will not open at beginning
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Cc: "Susan Curtzwiler" 
> Received: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 12:23 PM
> Hi All, 
> ???
>  Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise on
> Compaq laptop. 
> -
>  
> In the pdf setup, I have marked the file to open on pg
> 1.???However, the file is now opening at the
> end of the book. 
>  
> Can I make the file open on the Title Page, which has no
> page number?? 
>  
> The title page is in the book window as a separate file --
> would it help if I attached the title page to the front
> matter? 
>  
> What settings do I need ? 
>  
>  
> Thanks,
> Sue Curtzwiler
> susancu at vmc.com
>  
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New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning

2009-06-17 Thread Susan Curtzwiler
Unfortunately, I do not have the full Acrobat, only the distiller and Frame 
7.0. 

Thanks,
Sue 



From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca]
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To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Susan Curtzwiler
Cc: Susan Curtzwiler
Subject: Re: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning




Susan:

Do you have Adobe Acrobat? You can renumber the pages there, including giving 
the cover the "number" Cover. Then you can reset the "open to page" option to 
Cover.

If you need me to elaborate, let me know.

Nadine

--- On Wed, 6/17/09, Susan Curtzwiler  wrote:

> From: Susan Curtzwiler 
> Subject: New Topic 2:  PDF will not open at beginning
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Cc: "Susan Curtzwiler" 
> Received: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 12:23 PM
> Hi All,
>
>  Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise on
> Compaq laptop.
> -
> 
> In the pdf setup, I have marked the file to open on pg
> 1.   However, the file is now opening at the
> end of the book.
> 
> Can I make the file open on the Title Page, which has no
> page number? 
> 
> The title page is in the book window as a separate file --
> would it help if I attached the title page to the front
> matter?
> 
> What settings do I need ?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Sue Curtzwiler
> susancu at vmc.com
> 
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New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning

2009-06-17 Thread Art Campbell
Susan,

There's a parameter in the PDF setup or the PDF printer setup that you
can access from the FM Printer page that lets you specify the opening
page, but I don't have a version that old installed so I can't tell
you the exact location.

Assuming the title page is in the book file from which the PDF is
generated, it has a physical page number in Acrobat and within the PDF
-- you probably noticed that the page numbers of the book and the PDF
don't automatically match up.

If you can't find it and you need a quick fix, you may want to
download the eval version of Acrobat and make the adjustment on a
different system so you don't mess up your current install.

Art Campbell
   art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Susan Curtzwiler wrote:
> Unfortunately, I do not have the full Acrobat, only the distiller and Frame 
> 7.0.
>
> Thanks,
> Sue
>
> 
>
> From: Writer [mailto:generic668 at yahoo.ca]
> Sent: Wed 6/17/2009 10:00 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Susan Curtzwiler
> Cc: Susan Curtzwiler
> Subject: Re: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning
>
>
>
>
> Susan:
>
> Do you have Adobe Acrobat? You can renumber the pages there, including giving 
> the cover the "number" Cover. Then you can reset the "open to page" option to 
> Cover.
>
> If you need me to elaborate, let me know.
>
> Nadine
>
> --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Susan Curtzwiler  wrote:
>
>> From: Susan Curtzwiler 
>> Subject: New Topic 2: ?PDF will not open at beginning
>> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Cc: "Susan Curtzwiler" 
>> Received: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 12:23 PM
>> Hi All,
>>
>> ?Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise on
>> Compaq laptop.
>> -
>>
>> In the pdf setup, I have marked the file to open on pg
>> 1. ? However, the file is now opening at the
>> end of the book.
>>
>> Can I make the file open on the Title Page, which has no
>> page number?
>>
>> The title page is in the book window as a separate file --
>> would it help if I attached the title page to the front
>> matter?
>>
>> What settings do I need ?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sue Curtzwiler
>> susancu at vmc.com
>>
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