Non-printing Colors Insist on Printing!

2006-05-17 Thread Shlomo Perets
Mike,

You wrote:

>I've got some text that I need to cross-reference in a TOC, but I don't want
>it to print in the document where it resides. I've been hiding it in the
>margin, with font color white. Of course, there I times that I do want to
>view the text for editing, and I have to change the color of the text to
>something visible for those times I need to read it.
>
>But I just noticed that you can define a color and set its definition  to
>"Print As: Don't Print." It sounds perfect! I could assign a color to this
>text that I could see, but it wouldn't show up in PDFs-- or so I thought. I
>created a color called "NoPrint" and assigned it as follows:
>
>Color Definition: NoPrint
>Print As: Don't Print
>Model: CMYK
>C: 0
>M: 60
>Y: 80
>K: 0
>Overprint: Knock Out
>
>Despite being set to "Don't Print," when I print to PDF, the text shows up
>in PDFs and prints from the PDF, too. Aargh! How can I make non-printing
>text NOT print? Anyone else have this problem?


The "Don't Print" setting in a color definition specifically relates
to printing color separations from FrameMaker. Colors defined as
"Don't Print" do not appear on any printed plate when printing
to color plates, but will print otherwise.

You can suppress specific colors from being displayed and printed
can be done through "Color Views", but this will requires toggling
from one view to another to show/hide the specific colors
(eg view #6 shows all colors, view #1 hides the 'NoPrint' color).

White text, although invisible on a white background, is carried
over to the PS/PDF output. It is searchable, spoken and could even
be displayed -- see http://www.microtype.com/Hmmms.html#0412
for additional discussion and examples


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat







Non-printing Colors Insist on Printing!

2006-05-17 Thread Mike Wickham
> The "Don't Print" setting in a color definition specifically relates
> to printing color separations from FrameMaker. Colors defined as
> "Don't Print" do not appear on any printed plate when printing
> to color plates, but will print otherwise.
>
> You can suppress specific colors from being displayed and printed
> can be done through "Color Views", but this will requires toggling
> from one view to another to show/hide the specific colors
> (eg view #6 shows all colors, view #1 hides the 'NoPrint' color).

Thanks, Shlomo. I didn't realize that "Don't Print" only relates to printing 
color separations. Using Color Views is a good workaround.

> White text, although invisible on a white background, is carried
> over to the PS/PDF output. It is searchable, spoken and could even
> be displayed -- see http://www.microtype.com/Hmmms.html#0412
> for additional discussion and examples

I knew about the possible downside of using hidden text, but a hidden 
cross-reference was part of the only solution I could think of to make Part 
Titles ripple forward for use in chapter page headers. The <$volnum> system 
variable picks up the part numbers easily enough, but not the part titles.

Mike Wickham
Pleco Press, Inc.
"Aquarium books endorsed by fish!"





Non-printing Colors Insist on Printing!

2006-05-16 Thread Mike Wickham
I've got some text that I need to cross-reference in a TOC, but I don't want 
it to print in the document where it resides. I've been hiding it in the 
margin, with font color white. Of course, there I times that I do want to 
view the text for editing, and I have to change the color of the text to 
something visible for those times I need to read it.


But I just noticed that you can define a color and set its definition  to 
Print As: Don't Print. It sounds perfect! I could assign a color to this 
text that I could see, but it wouldn't show up in PDFs-- or so I thought. I 
created a color called NoPrint and assigned it as follows:


Color Definition: NoPrint
   Print As: Don't Print
   Model: CMYK
   C: 0
   M: 60
   Y: 80
   K: 0
   Overprint: Knock Out

Despite being set to Don't Print, when I print to PDF, the text shows up 
in PDFs and prints from the PDF, too. Aargh! How can I make non-printing 
text NOT print? Anyone else have this problem?


Mike Wickham
FrameMaker 7.1p116
Windows XP Pro SP2 and all updates
Acrobat Professional 7.0.7



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Re: Non-printing Colors Insist on Printing!

2006-05-16 Thread Shlomo Perets

Mike,

You wrote:


I've got some text that I need to cross-reference in a TOC, but I don't want
it to print in the document where it resides. I've been hiding it in the
margin, with font color white. Of course, there I times that I do want to
view the text for editing, and I have to change the color of the text to
something visible for those times I need to read it.

But I just noticed that you can define a color and set its definition  to
Print As: Don't Print. It sounds perfect! I could assign a color to this
text that I could see, but it wouldn't show up in PDFs-- or so I thought. I
created a color called NoPrint and assigned it as follows:

Color Definition: NoPrint
   Print As: Don't Print
   Model: CMYK
   C: 0
   M: 60
   Y: 80
   K: 0
   Overprint: Knock Out

Despite being set to Don't Print, when I print to PDF, the text shows up
in PDFs and prints from the PDF, too. Aargh! How can I make non-printing
text NOT print? Anyone else have this problem?



The Don't Print setting in a color definition specifically relates
to printing color separations from FrameMaker. Colors defined as
Don't Print do not appear on any printed plate when printing
to color plates, but will print otherwise.

You can suppress specific colors from being displayed and printed
can be done through Color Views, but this will requires toggling
from one view to another to show/hide the specific colors
(eg view #6 shows all colors, view #1 hides the 'NoPrint' color).

White text, although invisible on a white background, is carried
over to the PS/PDF output. It is searchable, spoken and could even
be displayed -- see http://www.microtype.com/Hmmms.html#0412
for additional discussion and examples


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
Training, consulting  add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat




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Non-printing Colors Insist on Printing!

2006-05-16 Thread Mike Wickham
I've got some text that I need to cross-reference in a TOC, but I don't want 
it to print in the document where it resides. I've been hiding it in the 
margin, with font color white. Of course, there I times that I do want to 
view the text for editing, and I have to change the color of the text to 
something visible for those times I need to read it.

But I just noticed that you can define a color and set its definition  to 
"Print As: Don't Print." It sounds perfect! I could assign a color to this 
text that I could see, but it wouldn't show up in PDFs-- or so I thought. I 
created a color called "NoPrint" and assigned it as follows:

Color Definition: NoPrint
Print As: Don't Print
Model: CMYK
C: 0
M: 60
Y: 80
K: 0
Overprint: Knock Out

Despite being set to "Don't Print," when I print to PDF, the text shows up 
in PDFs and prints from the PDF, too. Aargh! How can I make non-printing 
text NOT print? Anyone else have this problem?

Mike Wickham
FrameMaker 7.1p116
Windows XP Pro SP2 and all updates
Acrobat Professional 7.0.7