RE: PDF contradiction?

2007-10-25 Thread Tammy Van Boening
Thanks everyone for the help and replies. Much appreciated.

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer 
Health Language, Inc. 
Office: +1 (303) 307-4400 x254 
www.healthlanguage.com 

-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:30 PM
To: Tammy Van Boening; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: PDF contradiction?

Tammy Van Boening wrote: 
 
 ... According to all the hulla-bulloo about this 8.0 
 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my 
 Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the 
 PDF. So, I followed the instructions to the T provided in 
 the Adobe Acrobat Online Help and this is the problem:
 
  
 
 1.) Create the PDF.
 
 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments  Enable For Commenting in
 Adobe Reader and save the PDF.
 
 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this
 wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), 
 so I select the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:

DISCLAIMER: I'm using Acro 7; undoubtedly, Adobe has made random changes
to what it calls things and the details of how they work. 

That said, I think you're doing two things that are similar, but not the
same, and you should be doing one or the other, but not both. It's
understandable; the help explains them poorly (at least in 7). 

If you're going to email the PDF to someone and want their comments
back, all you need to do is step 2 above. A Save As dialog prompts you
to save a copy of the PDF (you can overwrite the original if you
insist). Send that copy, which has the special features enabled to
allow commenting in Reader. *Don't do step 3 (the wizard). I've done
this many times, and never used the wizard. 

You need one of the wizards (under Comments  Send for Review) _only_ if
you want to see multiple people's comments merged into one document. In
that case, *don't* select Comments  Enable For Commenting first; just
go straight to the wizard. 

HTH!
Richard


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PDF Contradiction?

2007-10-25 Thread Daniel Lewis
Seems counter-intuitive, but try not enabling Commenting in Reader if you
plan on sending for a shared review. They are actually 2 mutually exclusive
features.


Daniel Lewis
Topeda Hill Publishing




All,

 

I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2)
and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create
my PDFs.  I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my
users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about
this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my
Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I
followed the instructions to the T provided in the Adobe Acrobat
Online Help and this is the problem:

 

1.) Create the PDF.

2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments  Enable For Commenting in
Adobe Reader and save the PDF.

3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this
wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select
the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:

 

When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the
following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be
sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow
modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions
on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security
permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's
because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended
features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do
change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled
for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions
to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't
let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what
Adobe claims can happen.

 

Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do
to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review?

 

Any and all help is appreciated.

 

 

Thanks,

 

TVB


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PDF contradiction?

2007-10-25 Thread Tammy Van Boening
Thanks everyone for the help and replies. Much appreciated.

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer 
Health Language, Inc. 
Office: +1 (303) 307-4400 x254 
www.healthlanguage.com 

-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:30 PM
To: Tammy Van Boening; Framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: RE: PDF contradiction?

Tammy Van Boening wrote: 

> ... According to all the hulla-bulloo about this 8.0 
> release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my 
> Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the 
> PDF. So, I followed the instructions to the "T" provided in 
> the Adobe Acrobat Online Help and this is the problem:
> 
>  
> 
> 1.) Create the PDF.
> 
> 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments > Enable For Commenting in
> Adobe Reader and save the PDF.
> 
> 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this
> wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), 
> so I select the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:

DISCLAIMER: I'm using Acro 7; undoubtedly, Adobe has made random changes
to what it calls things and the details of how they work. 

That said, I think you're doing two things that are similar, but not the
same, and you should be doing one or the other, but not both. It's
understandable; the help explains them poorly (at least in 7). 

If you're going to email the PDF to someone and want their comments
back, all you need to do is step 2 above. A Save As dialog prompts you
to save a copy of the PDF (you can overwrite the original if you
insist). Send that copy, which has the "special features" enabled to
allow commenting in Reader. *Don't do step 3 (the wizard). I've done
this many times, and never used the wizard. 

You need one of the wizards (under Comments > Send for Review) _only_ if
you want to see multiple people's comments merged into one document. In
that case, *don't* select Comments > Enable For Commenting first; just
go straight to the wizard. 

HTH!
Richard


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PDF Contradiction?

2007-10-25 Thread Daniel Lewis
Seems counter-intuitive, but try not enabling Commenting in Reader if you
plan on sending for a shared review. They are actually 2 mutually exclusive
features.


Daniel Lewis
Topeda Hill Publishing




All,



I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2)
and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create
my PDFs.  I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my
users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about
this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my
Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I
followed the instructions to the "T" provided in the Adobe Acrobat
Online Help and this is the problem:



1.) Create the PDF.

2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments > Enable For Commenting in
Adobe Reader and save the PDF.

3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this
wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select
the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:



When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the
following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be
sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow
modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions
on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security
permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's
because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended
features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do
change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled
for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions
to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't
let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what
Adobe claims can happen.



Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do
to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review?



Any and all help is appreciated.





Thanks,



TVB


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Re: PDF contradiction?

2007-10-24 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
What's this shared review thing? Is it anything more than enabling the 
reader to add comments?
I still recommend using PDF-XChange PDF Viewer for adding comments. I've 
found it to work on all PDFs including encrypted and PDFs that did not 
have commenting allowed.


Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



Tammy Van Boening wrote:

All,

 


I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2)
and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create
my PDFs.  I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my
users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about
this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my
Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I
followed the instructions to the T provided in the Adobe Acrobat
Online Help and this is the problem:

 


1.) Create the PDF.

2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments  Enable For Commenting in
Adobe Reader and save the PDF.

3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this
wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select
the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:

 


When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the
following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be
sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow
modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions
on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security
permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's
because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended
features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do
change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled
for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions
to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't
let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what
Adobe claims can happen.

 


Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do
to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review?

 


Any and all help is appreciated.

 

 


Thanks,

 


TVB


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Re: PDF contradiction?

2007-10-24 Thread Art Campbell
Always good to know about a program that totally trashes PDF security, Shmuel.
Thanks for sharing...

Art

On 10/24/07, Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What's this shared review thing? Is it anything more than enabling the
 reader to add comments?
 I still recommend using PDF-XChange PDF Viewer for adding comments. I've
 found it to work on all PDFs including encrypted and PDFs that did not
 have commenting allowed.

 Regards,
 Shmuel Wolfson



 Tammy Van Boening wrote:
  All,
 
 
 
  I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2)
  and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create
  my PDFs.  I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my
  users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about
  this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my
  Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I
  followed the instructions to the T provided in the Adobe Acrobat
  Online Help and this is the problem:
 
 
 
  1.) Create the PDF.
 
  2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments  Enable For Commenting in
  Adobe Reader and save the PDF.
 
  3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this
  wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select
  the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:
 
 
 
  When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the
  following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be
  sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow
  modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions
  on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security
  permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's
  because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended
  features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do
  change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled
  for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions
  to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't
  let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what
  Adobe claims can happen.
 
 
 
  Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do
  to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review?
 
 
 
  Any and all help is appreciated.
 
 
 
 
 
  Thanks,
 
 
 
  TVB
 
 
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Re: PDF contradiction?

2007-10-24 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
It's not PDF security. It's only for comments. All of the option of the 
Security tab are not affected.


Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson


Art Campbell wrote:

Always good to know about a program that totally trashes PDF security, Shmuel.
Thanks for sharing...

Art

On 10/24/07, Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

What's this shared review thing? Is it anything more than enabling the
reader to add comments?
I still recommend using PDF-XChange PDF Viewer for adding comments. I've
found it to work on all PDFs including encrypted and PDFs that did not
have commenting allowed.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



Tammy Van Boening wrote:


All,



I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2)
and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create
my PDFs.  I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my
users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about
this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my
Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I
followed the instructions to the T provided in the Adobe Acrobat
Online Help and this is the problem:



1.) Create the PDF.

2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments  Enable For Commenting in
Adobe Reader and save the PDF.

3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this
wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select
the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:



When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the
following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be
sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow
modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions
on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security
permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's
because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended
features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do
change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled
for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions
to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't
let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what
Adobe claims can happen.



Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do
to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review?



Any and all help is appreciated.





Thanks,



TVB


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Re: PDF contradiction?

2007-10-24 Thread Art Campbell
You really think that being able to write comments into a file that
doesn't permit commenting isn't a security breach?

Good to know.;- )

Art

On 10/24/07, Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's not PDF security. It's only for comments. All of the option of the
 Security tab are not affected.

 Regards,
 Shmuel Wolfson


 Art Campbell wrote:
  Always good to know about a program that totally trashes PDF security, 
  Shmuel.
  Thanks for sharing...
 
  Art
 
  On 10/24/07, Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  What's this shared review thing? Is it anything more than enabling the
  reader to add comments?
  I still recommend using PDF-XChange PDF Viewer for adding comments. I've
  found it to work on all PDFs including encrypted and PDFs that did not
  have commenting allowed.
 
  Regards,
  Shmuel Wolfson
 
 
 
  Tammy Van Boening wrote:
 
  All,
 
 
 
  I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2)
  and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create
  my PDFs.  I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my
  users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about
  this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my
  Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I
  followed the instructions to the T provided in the Adobe Acrobat
  Online Help and this is the problem:
 
 
 
  1.) Create the PDF.
 
  2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments  Enable For Commenting in
  Adobe Reader and save the PDF.
 
  3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this
  wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select
  the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:
 
 
 
  When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the
  following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be
  sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow
  modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions
  on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security
  permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's
  because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended
  features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do
  change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled
  for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions
  to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't
  let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what
  Adobe claims can happen.
 
 
 
  Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do
  to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review?
 
 
 
  Any and all help is appreciated.
 
 
 
 
 
  Thanks,
 
 
 
  TVB
 
 
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RE: PDF contradiction?

2007-10-24 Thread Flato, Gillian
Shared review is a feature of Acrobat 8 Professional. 

-Gillian


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:44 AM
To: Tammy Van Boening; Framers
Subject: Re: PDF contradiction?

What's this shared review thing? Is it anything more than enabling the

reader to add comments?
I still recommend using PDF-XChange PDF Viewer for adding comments. I've

found it to work on all PDFs including encrypted and PDFs that did not 
have commenting allowed.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



Tammy Van Boening wrote:
 All,

  

 I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2)
 and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to
create
 my PDFs.  I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my
 users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo
about
 this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my
 Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I
 followed the instructions to the T provided in the Adobe Acrobat
 Online Help and this is the problem:

  

 1.) Create the PDF.

 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments  Enable For Commenting in
 Adobe Reader and save the PDF.

 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this
 wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I
select
 the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:

  

 When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the
 following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be
 sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow
 modifications. Please select another document or change the
permissions
 on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the
security
 permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but
that's
 because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended
 features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do
 change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not
enabled
 for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's
instructions
 to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and
won't
 let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what
 Adobe claims can happen.

  

 Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do
 to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review?

  

 Any and all help is appreciated.

  

  

 Thanks,

  

 TVB


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Re: PDF contradiction?

2007-10-24 Thread Shmuel Wolfson

Is shared review different than commenting?

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



Flato, Gillian wrote:
Shared review is a feature of Acrobat 8 Professional. 


-Gillian


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:44 AM
To: Tammy Van Boening; Framers
Subject: Re: PDF contradiction?

What's this shared review thing? Is it anything more than enabling the

reader to add comments?
I still recommend using PDF-XChange PDF Viewer for adding comments. I've

found it to work on all PDFs including encrypted and PDFs that did not 
have commenting allowed.


Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



Tammy Van Boening wrote:
  

All,

 


I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2)
and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to


create
  

my PDFs.  I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my
users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo


about
  

this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my
Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I
followed the instructions to the T provided in the Adobe Acrobat
Online Help and this is the problem:

 


1.) Create the PDF.

2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments  Enable For Commenting in
Adobe Reader and save the PDF.

3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this
wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I


select
  

the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:

 


When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the
following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be
sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow
modifications. Please select another document or change the


permissions
  

on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the


security
  

permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but


that's
  

because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended
features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do
change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not


enabled
  

for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's


instructions
  

to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and


won't
  

let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what
Adobe claims can happen.

 


Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do
to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review?

 


Any and all help is appreciated.

 

 


Thanks,

 


TVB


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RE: PDF contradiction?

2007-10-24 Thread Flato, Gillian
Shared review allows all reviewers to see each other's comments. 


-Gillian


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Subject: Re: PDF contradiction?

Is shared review different than commenting?

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



Flato, Gillian wrote:
 Shared review is a feature of Acrobat 8 Professional. 

 -Gillian


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
 Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
 Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:44 AM
 To: Tammy Van Boening; Framers
 Subject: Re: PDF contradiction?

 What's this shared review thing? Is it anything more than enabling
the

 reader to add comments?
 I still recommend using PDF-XChange PDF Viewer for adding comments.
I've

 found it to work on all PDFs including encrypted and PDFs that did not

 have commenting allowed.

 Regards,
 Shmuel Wolfson



 Tammy Van Boening wrote:
   
 All,

  

 I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP,
SP2)
 and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to
 
 create
   
 my PDFs.  I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my
 users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo
 
 about
   
 this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my
 Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So,
I
 followed the instructions to the T provided in the Adobe Acrobat
 Online Help and this is the problem:

  

 1.) Create the PDF.

 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments  Enable For Commenting in
 Adobe Reader and save the PDF.

 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in
this
 wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I
 
 select
   
 the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:

  

 When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the
 following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be
 sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow
 modifications. Please select another document or change the
 
 permissions
   
 on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the
 
 security
   
 permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but
 
 that's
   
 because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended
 features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I
do
 change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not
 
 enabled
   
 for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's
 
 instructions
   
 to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and
 
 won't
   
 let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what
 Adobe claims can happen.

  

 Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to
do
 to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review?

  

 Any and all help is appreciated.

  

  

 Thanks,

  

 TVB


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PDF contradiction?

2007-10-24 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
What's this "shared review thing"? Is it anything more than enabling the 
reader to add comments?
I still recommend using PDF-XChange PDF Viewer for adding comments. I've 
found it to work on all PDFs including encrypted and PDFs that did not 
have commenting allowed.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



Tammy Van Boening wrote:
> All,
>
>  
>
> I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2)
> and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create
> my PDFs.  I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my
> users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about
> this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my
> Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I
> followed the instructions to the "T" provided in the Adobe Acrobat
> Online Help and this is the problem:
>
>  
>
> 1.) Create the PDF.
>
> 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments > Enable For Commenting in
> Adobe Reader and save the PDF.
>
> 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this
> wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select
> the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:
>
>  
>
> When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the
> following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be
> sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow
> modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions
> on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security
> permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's
> because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended
> features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do
> change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled
> for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions
> to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't
> let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what
> Adobe claims can happen.
>
>  
>
> Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do
> to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review?
>
>  
>
> Any and all help is appreciated.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
>
>  
>
> TVB
>
>
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PDF contradiction?

2007-10-24 Thread Art Campbell
Always good to know about a program that totally trashes PDF security, Shmuel.
Thanks for sharing...

Art

On 10/24/07, Shmuel Wolfson  wrote:
> What's this "shared review thing"? Is it anything more than enabling the
> reader to add comments?
> I still recommend using PDF-XChange PDF Viewer for adding comments. I've
> found it to work on all PDFs including encrypted and PDFs that did not
> have commenting allowed.
>
> Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
>
>
>
> Tammy Van Boening wrote:
> > All,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2)
> > and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create
> > my PDFs.  I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my
> > users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about
> > this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my
> > Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I
> > followed the instructions to the "T" provided in the Adobe Acrobat
> > Online Help and this is the problem:
> >
> >
> >
> > 1.) Create the PDF.
> >
> > 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments > Enable For Commenting in
> > Adobe Reader and save the PDF.
> >
> > 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this
> > wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select
> > the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:
> >
> >
> >
> > When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the
> > following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be
> > sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow
> > modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions
> > on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security
> > permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's
> > because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended
> > features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do
> > change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled
> > for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions
> > to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't
> > let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what
> > Adobe claims can happen.
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do
> > to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review?
> >
> >
> >
> > Any and all help is appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > TVB
> >
> >
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PDF contradiction?

2007-10-24 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
It's not PDF security. It's only for comments. All of the option of the 
Security tab are not affected.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson


Art Campbell wrote:
> Always good to know about a program that totally trashes PDF security, Shmuel.
> Thanks for sharing...
>
> Art
>
> On 10/24/07, Shmuel Wolfson  wrote:
>   
>> What's this "shared review thing"? Is it anything more than enabling the
>> reader to add comments?
>> I still recommend using PDF-XChange PDF Viewer for adding comments. I've
>> found it to work on all PDFs including encrypted and PDFs that did not
>> have commenting allowed.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Shmuel Wolfson
>>
>>
>>
>> Tammy Van Boening wrote:
>> 
>>> All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2)
>>> and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create
>>> my PDFs.  I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my
>>> users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about
>>> this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my
>>> Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I
>>> followed the instructions to the "T" provided in the Adobe Acrobat
>>> Online Help and this is the problem:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.) Create the PDF.
>>>
>>> 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments > Enable For Commenting in
>>> Adobe Reader and save the PDF.
>>>
>>> 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this
>>> wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select
>>> the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the
>>> following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be
>>> sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow
>>> modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions
>>> on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security
>>> permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's
>>> because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended
>>> features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do
>>> change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled
>>> for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions
>>> to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't
>>> let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what
>>> Adobe claims can happen.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do
>>> to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any and all help is appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> TVB
>>>
>>>
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PDF contradiction?

2007-10-24 Thread Art Campbell
You really think that being able to write comments into a file that
doesn't permit commenting isn't a security breach?

Good to know.;- )

Art

On 10/24/07, Shmuel Wolfson  wrote:
> It's not PDF security. It's only for comments. All of the option of the
> Security tab are not affected.
>
> Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
>
>
> Art Campbell wrote:
> > Always good to know about a program that totally trashes PDF security, 
> > Shmuel.
> > Thanks for sharing...
> >
> > Art
> >
> > On 10/24/07, Shmuel Wolfson  wrote:
> >
> >> What's this "shared review thing"? Is it anything more than enabling the
> >> reader to add comments?
> >> I still recommend using PDF-XChange PDF Viewer for adding comments. I've
> >> found it to work on all PDFs including encrypted and PDFs that did not
> >> have commenting allowed.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Shmuel Wolfson
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Tammy Van Boening wrote:
> >>
> >>> All,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2)
> >>> and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create
> >>> my PDFs.  I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my
> >>> users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about
> >>> this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my
> >>> Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I
> >>> followed the instructions to the "T" provided in the Adobe Acrobat
> >>> Online Help and this is the problem:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 1.) Create the PDF.
> >>>
> >>> 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments > Enable For Commenting in
> >>> Adobe Reader and save the PDF.
> >>>
> >>> 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this
> >>> wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select
> >>> the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the
> >>> following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be
> >>> sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow
> >>> modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions
> >>> on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security
> >>> permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's
> >>> because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended
> >>> features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do
> >>> change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled
> >>> for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions
> >>> to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't
> >>> let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what
> >>> Adobe claims can happen.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do
> >>> to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Any and all help is appreciated.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> TVB
> >>>
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PDF contradiction?

2007-10-24 Thread Flato, Gillian
Shared review is a feature of Acrobat 8 Professional. 

-Gillian


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+gflato=nanometrics@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+gflato=nanometrics.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:44 AM
To: Tammy Van Boening; Framers
Subject: Re: PDF contradiction?

What's this "shared review thing"? Is it anything more than enabling the

reader to add comments?
I still recommend using PDF-XChange PDF Viewer for adding comments. I've

found it to work on all PDFs including encrypted and PDFs that did not 
have commenting allowed.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



Tammy Van Boening wrote:
> All,
>
>  
>
> I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2)
> and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to
create
> my PDFs.  I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my
> users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo
about
> this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my
> Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I
> followed the instructions to the "T" provided in the Adobe Acrobat
> Online Help and this is the problem:
>
>  
>
> 1.) Create the PDF.
>
> 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments > Enable For Commenting in
> Adobe Reader and save the PDF.
>
> 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this
> wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I
select
> the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:
>
>  
>
> When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the
> following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be
> sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow
> modifications. Please select another document or change the
permissions
> on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the
security
> permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but
that's
> because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended
> features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do
> change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not
enabled
> for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's
instructions
> to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and
won't
> let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what
> Adobe claims can happen.
>
>  
>
> Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do
> to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review?
>
>  
>
> Any and all help is appreciated.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
>
>  
>
> TVB
>
>
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PDF contradiction?

2007-10-24 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Is shared review different than commenting?

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



Flato, Gillian wrote:
> Shared review is a feature of Acrobat 8 Professional. 
>
> -Gillian
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+gflato=nanometrics.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+gflato=nanometrics.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
> Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:44 AM
> To: Tammy Van Boening; Framers
> Subject: Re: PDF contradiction?
>
> What's this "shared review thing"? Is it anything more than enabling the
>
> reader to add comments?
> I still recommend using PDF-XChange PDF Viewer for adding comments. I've
>
> found it to work on all PDFs including encrypted and PDFs that did not 
> have commenting allowed.
>
> Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
>
>
>
> Tammy Van Boening wrote:
>   
>> All,
>>
>>  
>>
>> I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2)
>> and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to
>> 
> create
>   
>> my PDFs.  I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my
>> users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo
>> 
> about
>   
>> this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my
>> Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I
>> followed the instructions to the "T" provided in the Adobe Acrobat
>> Online Help and this is the problem:
>>
>>  
>>
>> 1.) Create the PDF.
>>
>> 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments > Enable For Commenting in
>> Adobe Reader and save the PDF.
>>
>> 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this
>> wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I
>> 
> select
>   
>> the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:
>>
>>  
>>
>> When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the
>> following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be
>> sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow
>> modifications. Please select another document or change the
>> 
> permissions
>   
>> on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the
>> 
> security
>   
>> permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but
>> 
> that's
>   
>> because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended
>> features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do
>> change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not
>> 
> enabled
>   
>> for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's
>> 
> instructions
>   
>> to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and
>> 
> won't
>   
>> let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what
>> Adobe claims can happen.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do
>> to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review?
>>
>>  
>>
>> Any and all help is appreciated.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>  
>>
>> TVB
>>
>>
>> NOTICE BY HEALTH LANGUAGE, INC.
>> This message, as well as any attached document, contains information
>> 
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PDF contradiction?

2007-10-24 Thread Flato, Gillian
Shared review allows all reviewers to see each other's comments. 


-Gillian


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+gflato=nanometrics@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+gflato=nanometrics.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 10:52 AM
To: Framers
Subject: Re: PDF contradiction?

Is shared review different than commenting?

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



Flato, Gillian wrote:
> Shared review is a feature of Acrobat 8 Professional. 
>
> -Gillian
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+gflato=nanometrics.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+gflato=nanometrics.com at lists.frameusers.com]
On
> Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:44 AM
> To: Tammy Van Boening; Framers
> Subject: Re: PDF contradiction?
>
> What's this "shared review thing"? Is it anything more than enabling
the
>
> reader to add comments?
> I still recommend using PDF-XChange PDF Viewer for adding comments.
I've
>
> found it to work on all PDFs including encrypted and PDFs that did not

> have commenting allowed.
>
> Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
>
>
>
> Tammy Van Boening wrote:
>   
>> All,
>>
>>  
>>
>> I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP,
SP2)
>> and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to
>> 
> create
>   
>> my PDFs.  I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my
>> users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo
>> 
> about
>   
>> this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my
>> Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So,
I
>> followed the instructions to the "T" provided in the Adobe Acrobat
>> Online Help and this is the problem:
>>
>>  
>>
>> 1.) Create the PDF.
>>
>> 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments > Enable For Commenting in
>> Adobe Reader and save the PDF.
>>
>> 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in
this
>> wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I
>> 
> select
>   
>> the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:
>>
>>  
>>
>> When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the
>> following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be
>> sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow
>> modifications. Please select another document or change the
>> 
> permissions
>   
>> on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the
>> 
> security
>   
>> permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but
>> 
> that's
>   
>> because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended
>> features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I
do
>> change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not
>> 
> enabled
>   
>> for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's
>> 
> instructions
>   
>> to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and
>> 
> won't
>   
>> let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what
>> Adobe claims can happen.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to
do
>> to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review?
>>
>>  
>>
>> Any and all help is appreciated.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>  
>>
>> TVB
>>
>>
>> NOTICE BY HEALTH LANGUAGE, INC.
>> This message, as well as any attached document, contains information
>> 
> from Health Language, Inc. that is confidential.  The information is
> intended only for the use of the addressee named above.  If you are
not
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PDF contradiction?

2007-10-23 Thread Tammy Van Boening
All,

 

I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2)
and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create
my PDFs.  I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my
users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about
this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my
Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I
followed the instructions to the T provided in the Adobe Acrobat
Online Help and this is the problem:

 

1.) Create the PDF.

2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments  Enable For Commenting in
Adobe Reader and save the PDF.

3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this
wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select
the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:

 

When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the
following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be
sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow
modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions
on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security
permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's
because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended
features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do
change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled
for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions
to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't
let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what
Adobe claims can happen.

 

Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do
to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review?

 

Any and all help is appreciated.

 

 

Thanks,

 

TVB


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RE: PDF contradiction?

2007-10-23 Thread Flato, Gillian
When I send my PDFs out for review, I take off all security permissions.
When I distribute to end users, then I enable security. You have got to
allow Commenters to have full access.


-Gillian


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PDF contradiction?

All,

 

I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2)
and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create
my PDFs.  I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my
users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about
this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my
Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I
followed the instructions to the T provided in the Adobe Acrobat
Online Help and this is the problem:

 

1.) Create the PDF.

2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments  Enable For Commenting in
Adobe Reader and save the PDF.

3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this
wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select
the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:

 

When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the
following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be
sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow
modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions
on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security
permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's
because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended
features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do
change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled
for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions
to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't
let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what
Adobe claims can happen.

 

Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do
to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review?

 

Any and all help is appreciated.

 

 

Thanks,

 

TVB


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Re: PDF contradiction?

2007-10-23 Thread Art Campbell
Tammy,
I think the preferred method is to print to the Adobe PDF printer
instance. Then you can open it in Acrobat, enable commenting and save
it out again. If you SaveAs from within FM, you use the FM settings
and those may be getting in your way.
Second, you may want to use the Shared Review Tool that's built into
Acrobat 8 instead of doing it manually...  I think it's Comments 
Shared Review.

Art

On 10/23/07, Tammy Van Boening [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 All,



 I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2)
 and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create
 my PDFs.  I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my
 users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about
 this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my
 Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I
 followed the instructions to the T provided in the Adobe Acrobat
 Online Help and this is the problem:



 1.) Create the PDF.

 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments  Enable For Commenting in
 Adobe Reader and save the PDF.

 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this
 wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select
 the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:



 When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the
 following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be
 sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow
 modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions
 on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security
 permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's
 because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended
 features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do
 change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled
 for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions
 to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't
 let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what
 Adobe claims can happen.



 Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do
 to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review?



 Any and all help is appreciated.





 Thanks,



 TVB


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RE: PDF contradiction?

2007-10-23 Thread Combs, Richard
Tammy Van Boening wrote: 
 
 ... According to all the hulla-bulloo about this 8.0 
 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my 
 Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the 
 PDF. So, I followed the instructions to the T provided in 
 the Adobe Acrobat Online Help and this is the problem:
 
  
 
 1.) Create the PDF.
 
 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments  Enable For Commenting in
 Adobe Reader and save the PDF.
 
 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this
 wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), 
 so I select the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:

DISCLAIMER: I'm using Acro 7; undoubtedly, Adobe has made random changes
to what it calls things and the details of how they work. 

That said, I think you're doing two things that are similar, but not the
same, and you should be doing one or the other, but not both. It's
understandable; the help explains them poorly (at least in 7). 

If you're going to email the PDF to someone and want their comments
back, all you need to do is step 2 above. A Save As dialog prompts you
to save a copy of the PDF (you can overwrite the original if you
insist). Send that copy, which has the special features enabled to
allow commenting in Reader. *Don't do step 3 (the wizard). I've done
this many times, and never used the wizard. 

You need one of the wizards (under Comments  Send for Review) _only_ if
you want to see multiple people's comments merged into one document. In
that case, *don't* select Comments  Enable For Commenting first; just
go straight to the wizard. 

HTH!
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PDF contradiction?

2007-10-23 Thread Tammy Van Boening
All,



I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2)
and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create
my PDFs.  I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my
users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about
this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my
Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I
followed the instructions to the "T" provided in the Adobe Acrobat
Online Help and this is the problem:



1.) Create the PDF.

2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments > Enable For Commenting in
Adobe Reader and save the PDF.

3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this
wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select
the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:



When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the
following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be
sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow
modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions
on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security
permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's
because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended
features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do
change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled
for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions
to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't
let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what
Adobe claims can happen.



Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do
to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review?



Any and all help is appreciated.





Thanks,



TVB


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PDF contradiction?

2007-10-23 Thread Flato, Gillian
When I send my PDFs out for review, I take off all security permissions.
When I distribute to end users, then I enable security. You have got to
allow Commenters to have full access.


-Gillian


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Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:00 PM
To: Framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: PDF contradiction?

All,



I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2)
and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create
my PDFs.  I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my
users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about
this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my
Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I
followed the instructions to the "T" provided in the Adobe Acrobat
Online Help and this is the problem:



1.) Create the PDF.

2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments > Enable For Commenting in
Adobe Reader and save the PDF.

3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this
wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select
the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:



When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the
following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be
sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow
modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions
on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security
permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's
because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended
features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do
change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled
for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions
to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't
let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what
Adobe claims can happen.



Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do
to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review?



Any and all help is appreciated.





Thanks,



TVB


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PDF contradiction?

2007-10-23 Thread Art Campbell
Tammy,
I think the preferred method is to print to the Adobe PDF printer
instance. Then you can open it in Acrobat, enable commenting and save
it out again. If you SaveAs from within FM, you use the FM settings
and those may be getting in your way.
Second, you may want to use the Shared Review Tool that's built into
Acrobat 8 instead of doing it manually...  I think it's Comments >
Shared Review.

Art

On 10/23/07, Tammy Van Boening  wrote:
> All,
>
>
>
> I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2)
> and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create
> my PDFs.  I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my
> users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about
> this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my
> Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I
> followed the instructions to the "T" provided in the Adobe Acrobat
> Online Help and this is the problem:
>
>
>
> 1.) Create the PDF.
>
> 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments > Enable For Commenting in
> Adobe Reader and save the PDF.
>
> 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this
> wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select
> the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:
>
>
>
> When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the
> following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be
> sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow
> modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions
> on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security
> permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's
> because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended
> features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do
> change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled
> for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions
> to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't
> let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what
> Adobe claims can happen.
>
>
>
> Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do
> to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review?
>
>
>
> Any and all help is appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> TVB
>
>
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PDF contradiction?

2007-10-23 Thread Combs, Richard
Tammy Van Boening wrote: 

> ... According to all the hulla-bulloo about this 8.0 
> release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my 
> Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the 
> PDF. So, I followed the instructions to the "T" provided in 
> the Adobe Acrobat Online Help and this is the problem:
> 
>  
> 
> 1.) Create the PDF.
> 
> 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments > Enable For Commenting in
> Adobe Reader and save the PDF.
> 
> 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this
> wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), 
> so I select the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub:

DISCLAIMER: I'm using Acro 7; undoubtedly, Adobe has made random changes
to what it calls things and the details of how they work. 

That said, I think you're doing two things that are similar, but not the
same, and you should be doing one or the other, but not both. It's
understandable; the help explains them poorly (at least in 7). 

If you're going to email the PDF to someone and want their comments
back, all you need to do is step 2 above. A Save As dialog prompts you
to save a copy of the PDF (you can overwrite the original if you
insist). Send that copy, which has the "special features" enabled to
allow commenting in Reader. *Don't do step 3 (the wizard). I've done
this many times, and never used the wizard. 

You need one of the wizards (under Comments > Send for Review) _only_ if
you want to see multiple people's comments merged into one document. In
that case, *don't* select Comments > Enable For Commenting first; just
go straight to the wizard. 

HTH!
Richard


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