Re: PDF Generation question

2006-05-24 Thread Tammy . VanBoening
Terry, David, Lin, Fred, Harro, Darrel, Daniel, et. al. (too many names to 
mention) -

Thanks for all of your replies and input and suggestions. Sorry Steve, 
squinting and looking sideways at the bookmarks didn't help~ Two issues - 

1.) One was the flow in Chapter 7 - which was weird because I simply 
imported the page layout/paragraph tags from my template into Chapter 7 
(like I did for all other chapters), but somehow, the flow was 
disconnected in Chapter 7.
2.) However, since the generated TOC was working just fine (which would 
indicate that there was NOT a problem with the flow), I also received 
advice about optimizing the framemaker file for PDF Generation (Format  
Document  Optimize PDF Size) and work with both options there - kinda' 
like miffing a source file except your miffing for PDF generation.

Now, all is right in my PDF world and I get the bookmarks as expected.

Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
303-328-4420
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Framemaker 7.1, Windows XP, Adobe Acrobat 7.0.

In my Framemaker source files, I have the following tags set to appear in 
my TOC: ChapTitle, SecTitle, Head1, Head2, Head3, and Head4. All tags 
appear as expected with the proper indentations, in the proper order,  and 

with all links working in the TOC. Only one chapter (Chapter 7) uses the 
SecTitle tag; however, as noted, it appears as expected in the TOC with 
the proper numbering (SecID), in the proper order, and the links from 
SecTitleTOC work just fine.  When I generate my PDF from this file, 
however, this is a different story.

I do have the following:

Printer: Adobe PDF
Under PDF Setup, I have Generate Bookmarks checked. In the Include 
Paragraphs, I do have these tags:  ChapTitle, SecTitle, Head1, Head2, 
Head3, and Head4 and I have Include Paragraphs Tags in bookmark text 
selected (for troublshooting purposes). I also have Create Named 
Destinations Set under Links and I have confirmed that the chapter-level 
PDF settings are the same as the book.

When I generate the PDF from the FM source file, I get the bookmark for 
ChapTitle for Chap 7 appearing; however, the other bookmarks that should 
appear underneath (SecTitle, Head1, etc.) are appearing underneath Chapter 

6  - In other words, the top level SecTitles (with all of the Head1, Head2 

below collapsed) are appearing in order, but as the last tags beneath 
Chapter 6. 

Like I said, Chap 7 is the chapter that uses the SecTitle paragraph, so 
why are these bookmarks being placed under Chapter 6?

Thanks,

TVB



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PDF Generation question

2006-05-24 Thread tammy.vanboen...@jeppesen.com
Terry, David, Lin, Fred, Harro, Darrel, Daniel, et. al. (too many names to 
mention) -

Thanks for all of your replies and input and suggestions. Sorry Steve, 
squinting and looking sideways at the bookmarks didn't help~ Two issues - 

1.) One was the flow in Chapter 7 - which was weird because I simply 
imported the page layout/paragraph tags from my template into Chapter 7 
(like I did for all other chapters), but somehow, the flow was 
disconnected in Chapter 7.
2.) However, since the generated TOC was working just fine (which would 
indicate that there was NOT a problem with the flow), I also received 
advice about optimizing the framemaker file for PDF Generation (Format > 
Document > Optimize PDF Size) and work with both options there - kinda' 
like miffing a source file except your miffing for PDF generation.

Now, all is right in my PDF world and I get the bookmarks as expected.

Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
303-328-4420
tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com



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Framemaker 7.1, Windows XP, Adobe Acrobat 7.0.

In my Framemaker source files, I have the following tags set to appear in 
my TOC: ChapTitle, SecTitle, Head1, Head2, Head3, and Head4. All tags 
appear as expected with the proper indentations, in the proper order,  and 

with all links working in the TOC. Only one chapter (Chapter 7) uses the 
SecTitle tag; however, as noted, it appears as expected in the TOC with 
the proper numbering (SecID), in the proper order, and the links from 
SecTitleTOC work just fine.  When I generate my PDF from this file, 
however, this is a different story.

I do have the following:

Printer: Adobe PDF
Under PDF Setup, I have Generate Bookmarks checked. In the Include 
Paragraphs, I do have these tags:  ChapTitle, SecTitle, Head1, Head2, 
Head3, and Head4 and I have Include Paragraphs Tags in bookmark text 
selected (for troublshooting purposes). I also have Create Named 
Destinations Set under Links and I have confirmed that the chapter-level 
PDF settings are the same as the book.

When I generate the PDF from the FM source file, I get the bookmark for 
ChapTitle for Chap 7 appearing; however, the other bookmarks that should 
appear underneath (SecTitle, Head1, etc.) are appearing underneath Chapter 

6  - In other words, the top level SecTitles (with all of the Head1, Head2 

below collapsed) are appearing in order, but as the last tags beneath 
Chapter 6. 

Like I said, Chap 7 is the chapter that uses the SecTitle paragraph, so 
why are these bookmarks being placed under Chapter 6?

Thanks,

TVB



Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
303-328-4420
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PDF Generation question

2006-05-23 Thread Tammy . VanBoening
Framemaker 7.1, Windows XP, Adobe Acrobat 7.0.

In my Framemaker source files, I have the following tags set to appear in 
my TOC: ChapTitle, SecTitle, Head1, Head2, Head3, and Head4. All tags 
appear as expected with the proper indentations, in the proper order,  and 
with all links working in the TOC. Only one chapter (Chapter 7) uses the 
SecTitle tag; however, as noted, it appears as expected in the TOC with 
the proper numbering (SecID), in the proper order, and the links from 
SecTitleTOC work just fine.  When I generate my PDF from this file, 
however, this is a different story.

I do have the following:

Printer: Adobe PDF
Under PDF Setup, I have Generate Bookmarks checked. In the Include 
Paragraphs, I do have these tags:  ChapTitle, SecTitle, Head1, Head2, 
Head3, and Head4 and I have Include Paragraphs Tags in bookmark text 
selected (for troublshooting purposes). I also have Create Named 
Destinations Set under Links and I have confirmed that the chapter-level 
PDF settings are the same as the book.

When I generate the PDF from the FM source file, I get the bookmark for 
ChapTitle for Chap 7 appearing; however, the other bookmarks that should 
appear underneath (SecTitle, Head1, etc.) are appearing underneath Chapter 
6  - In other words, the top level SecTitles (with all of the Head1, Head2 
below collapsed) are appearing in order, but as the last tags beneath 
Chapter 6. 

Like I said, Chap 7 is the chapter that uses the SecTitle paragraph, so 
why are these bookmarks being placed under Chapter 6?

Thanks,

TVB



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Re: PDF Generation question

2006-05-23 Thread Tammy . VanBoening
LOL! I will try squinting. To answer several questions:

1.) Nope, SecTitle is not in a separate text flow.
2.) Yep, the TOC in my Framemaker source book generates just as expected 
with the SecTitles in the proper order under Chapter 7.
3.) Yep, I have tried regenerating my book after solving the numbering 
problem and nope, same results - the tags are stuck as the last tags under 
Chapter 6.
4.) Yep, I have tried the suggestion of nested numbering with zero-ing out 
placeholders and nope, still doesn't put the SecTitle bookmarks under 
Chapter 7 in the PDF.

I give!

Thanks!

TVB 

Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
303-328-4420
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At 09:55 -0600 23/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

When I generate the PDF from the FM source file, I get the bookmark for
ChapTitle for Chap 7 appearing; however, the other bookmarks that should
appear underneath (SecTitle, Head1, etc.) are appearing underneath 
Chapter
6  - In other words, the top level SecTitles (with all of the Head1, 
Head2
below collapsed) are appearing in order, but as the last tags beneath
Chapter 6.

This has long been a problem with bookmarks generated from FrameMaker 
(since v 5.0 at least). I have long since given up trying to diagnose it, 
and just edit the bookmarks in Acrobat.

I think if you look at it sideways with eyes narrowed, you'd see that it's 
the top level bookmark that is misplaced, not the lower level ones ;-)

I'd also be interested in illumination.
-- 
Steve

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Re: PDF Generation question

2006-05-23 Thread Tammy . VanBoening
And one more thing - if I leave my SecTitle out of my bookmarks list, all 
of my bookmarks for Chapter 7 are still being placed under Chapter 6. Now 
I really give.

TVB

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Senior Technical Writer
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
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LOL! I will try squinting. To answer several questions:

1.) Nope, SecTitle is not in a separate text flow.
2.) Yep, the TOC in my Framemaker source book generates just as expected 
with the SecTitles in the proper order under Chapter 7.
3.) Yep, I have tried regenerating my book after solving the numbering 
problem and nope, same results - the tags are stuck as the last tags under 

Chapter 6.
4.) Yep, I have tried the suggestion of nested numbering with zero-ing out 

placeholders and nope, still doesn't put the SecTitle bookmarks under 
Chapter 7 in the PDF.

I give!

Thanks!

TVB 

Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
303-328-4420
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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At 09:55 -0600 23/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

When I generate the PDF from the FM source file, I get the bookmark for
ChapTitle for Chap 7 appearing; however, the other bookmarks that should
appear underneath (SecTitle, Head1, etc.) are appearing underneath 
Chapter
6  - In other words, the top level SecTitles (with all of the Head1, 
Head2
below collapsed) are appearing in order, but as the last tags beneath
Chapter 6.

This has long been a problem with bookmarks generated from FrameMaker 
(since v 5.0 at least). I have long since given up trying to diagnose it, 
and just edit the bookmarks in Acrobat.

I think if you look at it sideways with eyes narrowed, you'd see that it's 

the top level bookmark that is misplaced, not the lower level ones ;-)

I'd also be interested in illumination.
-- 
Steve

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PDF Generation question

2006-05-23 Thread tammy.vanboen...@jeppesen.com
Framemaker 7.1, Windows XP, Adobe Acrobat 7.0.

In my Framemaker source files, I have the following tags set to appear in 
my TOC: ChapTitle, SecTitle, Head1, Head2, Head3, and Head4. All tags 
appear as expected with the proper indentations, in the proper order,  and 
with all links working in the TOC. Only one chapter (Chapter 7) uses the 
SecTitle tag; however, as noted, it appears as expected in the TOC with 
the proper numbering (SecID), in the proper order, and the links from 
SecTitleTOC work just fine.  When I generate my PDF from this file, 
however, this is a different story.

I do have the following:

Printer: Adobe PDF
Under PDF Setup, I have Generate Bookmarks checked. In the Include 
Paragraphs, I do have these tags:  ChapTitle, SecTitle, Head1, Head2, 
Head3, and Head4 and I have Include Paragraphs Tags in bookmark text 
selected (for troublshooting purposes). I also have Create Named 
Destinations Set under Links and I have confirmed that the chapter-level 
PDF settings are the same as the book.

When I generate the PDF from the FM source file, I get the bookmark for 
ChapTitle for Chap 7 appearing; however, the other bookmarks that should 
appear underneath (SecTitle, Head1, etc.) are appearing underneath Chapter 
6  - In other words, the top level SecTitles (with all of the Head1, Head2 
below collapsed) are appearing in order, but as the last tags beneath 
Chapter 6. 

Like I said, Chap 7 is the chapter that uses the SecTitle paragraph, so 
why are these bookmarks being placed under Chapter 6?

Thanks,

TVB



Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
303-328-4420
tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com


PDF Generation question

2006-05-23 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:55 -0600 23/5/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote:

>When I generate the PDF from the FM source file, I get the bookmark for
>ChapTitle for Chap 7 appearing; however, the other bookmarks that should
>appear underneath (SecTitle, Head1, etc.) are appearing underneath Chapter
>6  - In other words, the top level SecTitles (with all of the Head1, Head2
>below collapsed) are appearing in order, but as the last tags beneath
>Chapter 6.

This has long been a problem with bookmarks generated from FrameMaker (since v 
5.0 at least). I have long since given up trying to diagnose it, and just edit 
the bookmarks in Acrobat.

I think if you look at it sideways with eyes narrowed, you'd see that it's the 
top level bookmark that is misplaced, not the lower level ones ;-)

I'd also be interested in illumination.
-- 
Steve



PDF Generation question

2006-05-23 Thread tammy.vanboen...@jeppesen.com
LOL! I will try squinting. To answer several questions:

1.) Nope, SecTitle is not in a separate text flow.
2.) Yep, the TOC in my Framemaker source book generates just as expected 
with the SecTitles in the proper order under Chapter 7.
3.) Yep, I have tried regenerating my book after solving the numbering 
problem and nope, same results - the tags are stuck as the last tags under 
Chapter 6.
4.) Yep, I have tried the suggestion of nested numbering with zero-ing out 
placeholders and nope, still doesn't put the SecTitle bookmarks under 
Chapter 7 in the PDF.

I give!

Thanks!

TVB 

Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
303-328-4420
tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com



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05/23/2006 10:35 AM

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At 09:55 -0600 23/5/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote:

>When I generate the PDF from the FM source file, I get the bookmark for
>ChapTitle for Chap 7 appearing; however, the other bookmarks that should
>appear underneath (SecTitle, Head1, etc.) are appearing underneath 
Chapter
>6  - In other words, the top level SecTitles (with all of the Head1, 
Head2
>below collapsed) are appearing in order, but as the last tags beneath
>Chapter 6.

This has long been a problem with bookmarks generated from FrameMaker 
(since v 5.0 at least). I have long since given up trying to diagnose it, 
and just edit the bookmarks in Acrobat.

I think if you look at it sideways with eyes narrowed, you'd see that it's 
the top level bookmark that is misplaced, not the lower level ones ;-)

I'd also be interested in illumination.
-- 
Steve




PDF Generation question

2006-05-23 Thread tammy.vanboen...@jeppesen.com
And one more thing - if I leave my SecTitle out of my bookmarks list, all 
of my bookmarks for Chapter 7 are still being placed under Chapter 6. Now 
I really give.

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
303-328-4420
tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com



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LOL! I will try squinting. To answer several questions:

1.) Nope, SecTitle is not in a separate text flow.
2.) Yep, the TOC in my Framemaker source book generates just as expected 
with the SecTitles in the proper order under Chapter 7.
3.) Yep, I have tried regenerating my book after solving the numbering 
problem and nope, same results - the tags are stuck as the last tags under 

Chapter 6.
4.) Yep, I have tried the suggestion of nested numbering with zero-ing out 

placeholders and nope, still doesn't put the SecTitle bookmarks under 
Chapter 7 in the PDF.

I give!

Thanks!

TVB 

Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
303-328-4420
tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com



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05/23/2006 10:35 AM

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At 09:55 -0600 23/5/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote:

>When I generate the PDF from the FM source file, I get the bookmark for
>ChapTitle for Chap 7 appearing; however, the other bookmarks that should
>appear underneath (SecTitle, Head1, etc.) are appearing underneath 
Chapter
>6  - In other words, the top level SecTitles (with all of the Head1, 
Head2
>below collapsed) are appearing in order, but as the last tags beneath
>Chapter 6.

This has long been a problem with bookmarks generated from FrameMaker 
(since v 5.0 at least). I have long since given up trying to diagnose it, 
and just edit the bookmarks in Acrobat.

I think if you look at it sideways with eyes narrowed, you'd see that it's 

the top level bookmark that is misplaced, not the lower level ones ;-)

I'd also be interested in illumination.
-- 
Steve

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