RE: Printing with line numbers

2008-10-17 Thread Syed.Hosain
 Are they asking for this just to make it easier to pinpoint something
on
 a page, to avoid having to describe things as the second sentence in
 the third paragraph under 'Oblating the Retromizer'?

Some standard document formats need line numbers as part of their
requirements. For example:

1. Some legal documents.

2. Patent filings (numbered every five lines).

Z
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RE: Printing with line numbers

2008-10-17 Thread Syed.Hosain
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Are they asking for this just to make it easier to pinpoint
something on
 a page, to avoid having to describe things as the second sentence
in
 the third paragraph under 'Oblating the Retromizer'?

 Some standard document formats need line numbers as part of their
 requirements. For example:

 1. Some legal documents.

 2. Patent filings (numbered every five lines).

 Z
 
 That's true, but the original poster specified this was a request from
 reviewers, implying an editing, not a production requirement.

Uh ... yes, point. I overlooked that in the original request - sorry!

Z
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Printing with line numbers

2008-10-17 Thread Alan Litchfield
>From what I understand, and I have not done this myself in FM, is that this
can be achieved with FrameScript.

Dan Emory, in 1999, said the following, but again, I don't know if there have
been subsequent efforts to to create a plug-in that achieves these things.
When I want line numbering I use LaTeX

Good luck
Alan


  To: parldraft.lawcomm at , Free Framers 

  Subject: RE: Line numbering and file breaks

  From: Dan Emory 

  Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:10:24 -0700 (MST)

  Sender: owner-framers at x


> 2. - Is it possible to have line numbering down the side of a page, where
> the numbering counts only the lines with text in them and not blank lines?

Despite what some others have stated, there is no viable way to do this in
FrameMaker without developing an API client.

And, despite what one poster suggested, development of such an API client
would NOT be trivial, because it would have to detect both the presence and
the vertical position of each text line, whether in or out of a table, and
would have to deal with all of the following, which affect whether a line is
numbered, and, if it is, the positioning of the line number:

a. The ability to suppress line numbering for text that should not be numbered.

b. Suppress line numbering for empty paragraphs

c. Properly number text insets that are imported by reference.

d. The variable amounts of white space between wrapped lines of a multi-line
paragraph caused by the line spacing setting, and, if the paragraph is set
for variable spacing, the variations in inter-line spacing produced by the
presence of subscripts, superscripts, larger font sizes of formatted text
strings within paragraphs, and anchored frames inserted within the text of a
paragraph.

e. Variations in the Space Above/Below settings of paragraphs and tables.

f. Variations in the top/bottom cell margins of rows, and the alignment
(top, bottom, or center) of text within cells.

g. Suppression of line numbering for table heading and footing rows that
repeat on each page of a multi-page table.

h. The empty spaces created by graphics.

Additionally, such an API client would have to deal successfully with:

a. Multi-column page layouts, inserting the line numbers in that case in the
gaps between columns.

b. Other variations in master page usage which affect where and how the line
numbers would appear.

c. If line numbers run consecutively throughout a large multi-file book (as
opposed to starting the line numbering at 1 on each page), the API client
would also have to deal with the continuation of the line numbering in each
file of the multi-file book, and the large range in the number of line
number digits (from 1 to 6), finding some way to fit them within the page
margins, and the gaps between columns in multi-column layouts.

Certainly, the complexity of a line numbering capability such as that
described above explains why it is not presently available in FrameMaker,
and why (to my knowledge) no one has developed an API client that will do it.

In my view, the only feasible way it could be done is to:

a. Add a line numbering on/off parameter to the Numbering or Pagination
properties panel of the FrameMaker Paragraph Designer palette

b. Add a line numbering on/off parameter to the FrameMaker Table Designer
palette.

c. Add a Line Numbering Properties dialog to the FrameMaker Format >
Document menu that would be similar to the existing Change Bar Properties
dialog.

d. Add a line numbering continuation/restart parameter to the FrameMaker Set
Up Document dialog in the book file.

e. Impose tight restrictions on paragraph and table formats, as well as
master pages (e.g., no multi-column layouts for columns where line numbering
is required), to minimize the problems imposed by variations in spacing and
page layout described previously.

f. Develop a set of templates that implement the capabilities and
limitations described in a, b, c, and d above.


Peter Hirons wrote:
> Gurus,
>
> Does anyone know if it is possible to get FM to print with line numbers?
>
> If so, how?
>
> I have reviewers wanting this.
>
> Peter
>
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Printing with line numbers

2008-10-17 Thread Alan Litchfield
Hi Art,

As I said, I have not done it myself. But if you have the script and it works
perhaps you could provide Peter with the requisite info on how to get it?

I have not had the need in FM ;)

Cheers
Alan

Art Campbell wrote:
> So the script doesn't work on your system, Alan?
>
> I've run it on 7 & 8 systems...
>
> Art
>
> Art Campbell
>   art.campbell at gmail.com
>   "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
> Vincent and a redheaded grl." -- Richard Thompson
>   No disclaimers apply.
>DoD 358
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Alan Litchfield  
> wrote:
>> >From what I understand, and I have not done this myself in FM, is that this
>> can be achieved with FrameScript.
>>



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Printing with line numbers

2008-10-17 Thread Stuart Rogers
Peter Hirons wrote:
> Gurus,
> 
> Does anyone know if it is possible to get FM to print with line numbers?
> 
> If so, how?
> 
> I have reviewers wanting this.
> 
> Peter
> 

There's been lots of discussion on how this could be achieved with 
varying degrees of difficulty, but I wonder if there's an easier way, 
depending on the *reason* your reviewers want the numbering.

Are they asking for this just to make it easier to pinpoint something on 
a page, to avoid having to describe things as "the second sentence in 
the third paragraph under 'Oblating the Retromizer'?"

If that's the case, perhaps they would be satisfied with something a 
little cruder.  You could create a duplicate template and add to the 
master pages in the margin area a vertical series of consecutive numbers 
at some small font and line spacing.  The numbers won't line up exactly 
with the body text, but would be close enough to enable reviewers to 
refer to "page 19, lines 40-50" to describe the location of the text in 
question.  If they include the page number, there's no need for the line 
numbers to be consecutive throughout the book -- each master page could 
have the same numbering 1-100 or whatever suits.  For production, 
reimport your regular template to get rid of the line numbers.

Just a thought...

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

"The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap 
between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns as it were 
instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish 
squirting out ink."

? George Orwell


Printing with line numbers

2008-10-17 Thread Art Campbell
The link that Winfried posted earlier in the thread seems to be the
correct one...

Art Campbell
  art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded grl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Alan Litchfield  
wrote:
> Hi Art,
>
> As I said, I have not done it myself. But if you have the script and it works
> perhaps you could provide Peter with the requisite info on how to get it?
>
> I have not had the need in FM ;)
>
> Cheers
> Alan
>
> Art Campbell wrote:
>> So the script doesn't work on your system, Alan?
>>
>> I've run it on 7 & 8 systems...
>>
>> Art
>>
>> Art Campbell
>>   art.campbell at gmail.com
>>   "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
>> Vincent and a redheaded grl." -- Richard Thompson
>>   No disclaimers apply.
>>DoD 358
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Alan Litchfield  
>> wrote:
>>> >From what I understand, and I have not done this myself in FM, is that this
>>> can be achieved with FrameScript.
>>>
>
>
>
> --
> Alan Litchfield MBus (Hons), MNZCS
> AlphaByte
> PO Box 1941, Auckland
> http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
>
>


Printing with line numbers

2008-10-17 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
> Are they asking for this just to make it easier to pinpoint something
on
> a page, to avoid having to describe things as "the second sentence in
> the third paragraph under 'Oblating the Retromizer'?"

Some standard document formats need line numbers as part of their
requirements. For example:

1. Some legal documents.

2. Patent filings (numbered every five lines).

Z


Printing with line numbers

2008-10-17 Thread Stuart Rogers
Syed.Hosain at aeris.net wrote:
>> Are they asking for this just to make it easier to pinpoint something
> on
>> a page, to avoid having to describe things as "the second sentence in
>> the third paragraph under 'Oblating the Retromizer'?"
> 
> Some standard document formats need line numbers as part of their
> requirements. For example:
> 
> 1. Some legal documents.
> 
> 2. Patent filings (numbered every five lines).
> 
> Z
> 
> 

That's true, but the original poster specified this was a request from 
reviewers, implying an editing, not a production requirement.

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

"The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap 
between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns as it were 
instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish 
squirting out ink."

? George Orwell


Printing with line numbers

2008-10-17 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
> Syed.Hosain at aeris.net wrote:
>>> Are they asking for this just to make it easier to pinpoint
something on
>>> a page, to avoid having to describe things as "the second sentence
in
>>> the third paragraph under 'Oblating the Retromizer'?"
>>
>> Some standard document formats need line numbers as part of their
>> requirements. For example:
>>
>> 1. Some legal documents.
>>
>> 2. Patent filings (numbered every five lines).
>>
>> Z
> 
> That's true, but the original poster specified this was a request from
> reviewers, implying an editing, not a production requirement.

Uh ... yes, point. I overlooked that in the original request - sorry!

Z


Printing with line numbers

2008-10-16 Thread Peter Hirons
Gurus,

Does anyone know if it is possible to get FM to print with line numbers?

If so, how?

I have reviewers wanting this.

Peter

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RE: Printing with line numbers

2008-10-16 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi,

There is the free FrameScript script InsertLineCounter.fsl
which does that for you. Works very well.

http://www.itl.eu/framescript_download.html?L=1

Apart from that you could think of solutions with tables
or additonal flows. Not very convenient.

Best regards

Winfried

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 Subject: Printing with line numbers
 
 Gurus,
 
 Does anyone know if it is possible to get FM to print with 
 line numbers?
 
 If so, how?
 
 I have reviewers wanting this.
 
 Peter
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Re: Printing with line numbers

2008-10-16 Thread Alan Litchfield
From what I understand, and I have not done this myself in FM, is that this
can be achieved with FrameScript.

Dan Emory, in 1999, said the following, but again, I don't know if there have
been subsequent efforts to to create a plug-in that achieves these things.
When I want line numbering I use LaTeX

Good luck
Alan


  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Free Framers [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Subject: RE: Line numbering and file breaks

  From: Dan Emory [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:10:24 -0700 (MST)

  Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 2. - Is it possible to have line numbering down the side of a page, where
 the numbering counts only the lines with text in them and not blank lines?

Despite what some others have stated, there is no viable way to do this in
FrameMaker without developing an API client.

And, despite what one poster suggested, development of such an API client
would NOT be trivial, because it would have to detect both the presence and
the vertical position of each text line, whether in or out of a table, and
would have to deal with all of the following, which affect whether a line is
numbered, and, if it is, the positioning of the line number:

a. The ability to suppress line numbering for text that should not be numbered.

b. Suppress line numbering for empty paragraphs

c. Properly number text insets that are imported by reference.

d. The variable amounts of white space between wrapped lines of a multi-line
paragraph caused by the line spacing setting, and, if the paragraph is set
for variable spacing, the variations in inter-line spacing produced by the
presence of subscripts, superscripts, larger font sizes of formatted text
strings within paragraphs, and anchored frames inserted within the text of a
paragraph.

e. Variations in the Space Above/Below settings of paragraphs and tables.

f. Variations in the top/bottom cell margins of rows, and the alignment
(top, bottom, or center) of text within cells.

g. Suppression of line numbering for table heading and footing rows that
repeat on each page of a multi-page table.

h. The empty spaces created by graphics.

Additionally, such an API client would have to deal successfully with:

a. Multi-column page layouts, inserting the line numbers in that case in the
gaps between columns.

b. Other variations in master page usage which affect where and how the line
numbers would appear.

c. If line numbers run consecutively throughout a large multi-file book (as
opposed to starting the line numbering at 1 on each page), the API client
would also have to deal with the continuation of the line numbering in each
file of the multi-file book, and the large range in the number of line
number digits (from 1 to 6), finding some way to fit them within the page
margins, and the gaps between columns in multi-column layouts.

Certainly, the complexity of a line numbering capability such as that
described above explains why it is not presently available in FrameMaker,
and why (to my knowledge) no one has developed an API client that will do it.

In my view, the only feasible way it could be done is to:

a. Add a line numbering on/off parameter to the Numbering or Pagination
properties panel of the FrameMaker Paragraph Designer palette

b. Add a line numbering on/off parameter to the FrameMaker Table Designer
palette.

c. Add a Line Numbering Properties dialog to the FrameMaker Format 
Document menu that would be similar to the existing Change Bar Properties
dialog.

d. Add a line numbering continuation/restart parameter to the FrameMaker Set
Up Document dialog in the book file.

e. Impose tight restrictions on paragraph and table formats, as well as
master pages (e.g., no multi-column layouts for columns where line numbering
is required), to minimize the problems imposed by variations in spacing and
page layout described previously.

f. Develop a set of templates that implement the capabilities and
limitations described in a, b, c, and d above.


Peter Hirons wrote:
 Gurus,

 Does anyone know if it is possible to get FM to print with line numbers?

 If so, how?

 I have reviewers wanting this.

 Peter

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Re: Printing with line numbers

2008-10-16 Thread Alan Litchfield
Hi Art,

As I said, I have not done it myself. But if you have the script and it works
perhaps you could provide Peter with the requisite info on how to get it?

I have not had the need in FM ;)

Cheers
Alan

Art Campbell wrote:
 So the script doesn't work on your system, Alan?

 I've run it on 7  8 systems...

 Art

 Art Campbell
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
 Vincent and a redheaded grl. -- Richard Thompson
   No disclaimers apply.
DoD 358



 On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Alan Litchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From what I understand, and I have not done this myself in FM, is that this
 can be achieved with FrameScript.




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Re: Printing with line numbers

2008-10-16 Thread Art Campbell
So the script doesn't work on your system, Alan?

I've run it on 7  8 systems...

Art

Art Campbell
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On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Alan Litchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From what I understand, and I have not done this myself in FM, is that this
 can be achieved with FrameScript.

 Dan Emory, in 1999, said the following, but again, I don't know if there have
 been subsequent efforts to to create a plug-in that achieves these things.
 When I want line numbering I use LaTeX

 Good luck
 Alan

 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Free Framers [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Subject: RE: Line numbering and file breaks

  From: Dan Emory [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:10:24 -0700 (MST)

  Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 2. - Is it possible to have line numbering down the side of a page, where
 the numbering counts only the lines with text in them and not blank lines?
 
 Despite what some others have stated, there is no viable way to do this in
 FrameMaker without developing an API client.

 And, despite what one poster suggested, development of such an API client
 would NOT be trivial, because it would have to detect both the presence and
 the vertical position of each text line, whether in or out of a table, and
 would have to deal with all of the following, which affect whether a line is
 numbered, and, if it is, the positioning of the line number:

 a. The ability to suppress line numbering for text that should not be 
 numbered.

 b. Suppress line numbering for empty paragraphs

 c. Properly number text insets that are imported by reference.

 d. The variable amounts of white space between wrapped lines of a multi-line
 paragraph caused by the line spacing setting, and, if the paragraph is set
 for variable spacing, the variations in inter-line spacing produced by the
 presence of subscripts, superscripts, larger font sizes of formatted text
 strings within paragraphs, and anchored frames inserted within the text of a
 paragraph.

 e. Variations in the Space Above/Below settings of paragraphs and tables.

 f. Variations in the top/bottom cell margins of rows, and the alignment
 (top, bottom, or center) of text within cells.

 g. Suppression of line numbering for table heading and footing rows that
 repeat on each page of a multi-page table.

 h. The empty spaces created by graphics.

 Additionally, such an API client would have to deal successfully with:

 a. Multi-column page layouts, inserting the line numbers in that case in the
 gaps between columns.

 b. Other variations in master page usage which affect where and how the line
 numbers would appear.

 c. If line numbers run consecutively throughout a large multi-file book (as
 opposed to starting the line numbering at 1 on each page), the API client
 would also have to deal with the continuation of the line numbering in each
 file of the multi-file book, and the large range in the number of line
 number digits (from 1 to 6), finding some way to fit them within the page
 margins, and the gaps between columns in multi-column layouts.
 
 Certainly, the complexity of a line numbering capability such as that
 described above explains why it is not presently available in FrameMaker,
 and why (to my knowledge) no one has developed an API client that will do it.

 In my view, the only feasible way it could be done is to:

 a. Add a line numbering on/off parameter to the Numbering or Pagination
 properties panel of the FrameMaker Paragraph Designer palette

 b. Add a line numbering on/off parameter to the FrameMaker Table Designer
 palette.

 c. Add a Line Numbering Properties dialog to the FrameMaker Format 
 Document menu that would be similar to the existing Change Bar Properties
 dialog.

 d. Add a line numbering continuation/restart parameter to the FrameMaker Set
 Up Document dialog in the book file.

 e. Impose tight restrictions on paragraph and table formats, as well as
 master pages (e.g., no multi-column layouts for columns where line numbering
 is required), to minimize the problems imposed by variations in spacing and
 page layout described previously.

 f. Develop a set of templates that implement the capabilities and
 limitations described in a, b, c, and d above.


 Peter Hirons wrote:
 Gurus,

 Does anyone know if it is possible to get FM to print with line numbers?

 If so, how?

 I have reviewers wanting this.

 Peter

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Printing with line numbers

2008-10-16 Thread Peter Hirons
Gurus,

Does anyone know if it is possible to get FM to print with line numbers?

If so, how?

I have reviewers wanting this.

Peter



Printing with line numbers

2008-10-16 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi,

There is the free FrameScript script InsertLineCounter.fsl
which does that for you. Works very well.

http://www.itl.eu/framescript_download.html?=1

Apart from that you could think of solutions with tables
or additonal flows. Not very convenient.

Best regards

Winfried

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Peter Hirons
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 1:53 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Printing with line numbers
> 
> Gurus,
> 
> Does anyone know if it is possible to get FM to print with 
> line numbers?
> 
> If so, how?
> 
> I have reviewers wanting this.
> 
> Peter


Printing with line numbers

2008-10-16 Thread Art Campbell
So the script doesn't work on your system, Alan?

I've run it on 7 & 8 systems...

Art

Art Campbell
  art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded grl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Alan Litchfield  
wrote:
> >From what I understand, and I have not done this myself in FM, is that this
> can be achieved with FrameScript.
>
> Dan Emory, in 1999, said the following, but again, I don't know if there have
> been subsequent efforts to to create a plug-in that achieves these things.
> When I want line numbering I use LaTeX
>
> Good luck
> Alan
>
> 
>  To: parldraft.lawcomm at , Free Framers  x>
>
>  Subject: RE: Line numbering and file breaks
>
>  From: Dan Emory 
>
>  Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:10:24 -0700 (MST)
>
>  Sender: owner-framers at x
>
>
>> 2. - Is it possible to have line numbering down the side of a page, where
>> the numbering counts only the lines with text in them and not blank lines?
> 
> Despite what some others have stated, there is no viable way to do this in
> FrameMaker without developing an API client.
>
> And, despite what one poster suggested, development of such an API client
> would NOT be trivial, because it would have to detect both the presence and
> the vertical position of each text line, whether in or out of a table, and
> would have to deal with all of the following, which affect whether a line is
> numbered, and, if it is, the positioning of the line number:
>
> a. The ability to suppress line numbering for text that should not be 
> numbered.
>
> b. Suppress line numbering for empty paragraphs
>
> c. Properly number text insets that are imported by reference.
>
> d. The variable amounts of white space between wrapped lines of a multi-line
> paragraph caused by the line spacing setting, and, if the paragraph is set
> for variable spacing, the variations in inter-line spacing produced by the
> presence of subscripts, superscripts, larger font sizes of formatted text
> strings within paragraphs, and anchored frames inserted within the text of a
> paragraph.
>
> e. Variations in the Space Above/Below settings of paragraphs and tables.
>
> f. Variations in the top/bottom cell margins of rows, and the alignment
> (top, bottom, or center) of text within cells.
>
> g. Suppression of line numbering for table heading and footing rows that
> repeat on each page of a multi-page table.
>
> h. The empty spaces created by graphics.
>
> Additionally, such an API client would have to deal successfully with:
>
> a. Multi-column page layouts, inserting the line numbers in that case in the
> gaps between columns.
>
> b. Other variations in master page usage which affect where and how the line
> numbers would appear.
>
> c. If line numbers run consecutively throughout a large multi-file book (as
> opposed to starting the line numbering at 1 on each page), the API client
> would also have to deal with the continuation of the line numbering in each
> file of the multi-file book, and the large range in the number of line
> number digits (from 1 to 6), finding some way to fit them within the page
> margins, and the gaps between columns in multi-column layouts.
> 
> Certainly, the complexity of a line numbering capability such as that
> described above explains why it is not presently available in FrameMaker,
> and why (to my knowledge) no one has developed an API client that will do it.
>
> In my view, the only feasible way it could be done is to:
>
> a. Add a line numbering on/off parameter to the Numbering or Pagination
> properties panel of the FrameMaker Paragraph Designer palette
>
> b. Add a line numbering on/off parameter to the FrameMaker Table Designer
> palette.
>
> c. Add a Line Numbering Properties dialog to the FrameMaker Format >
> Document menu that would be similar to the existing Change Bar Properties
> dialog.
>
> d. Add a line numbering continuation/restart parameter to the FrameMaker Set
> Up Document dialog in the book file.
>
> e. Impose tight restrictions on paragraph and table formats, as well as
> master pages (e.g., no multi-column layouts for columns where line numbering
> is required), to minimize the problems imposed by variations in spacing and
> page layout described previously.
>
> f. Develop a set of templates that implement the capabilities and
> limitations described in a, b, c, and d above.
>
>
> Peter Hirons wrote:
>> Gurus,
>>
>> Does anyone know if it is possible to get FM to print with line numbers?
>>
>> If so, how?
>>
>> I have reviewers wanting this.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>