CORRECTION Re: InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker
Ooops! I just caught a typo, an omission that reverses the meaning. It's embedded in the body below, marked with * >Thanks Peter! You're welcome. > i'll take some time to go over this carefully, but this will be a great help > to me! > cheers > Mulholland On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Peter Gold wrote: On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 1:51 PM, mulholland4 wrote: > Hi Peter, > I sent an email to Art and received a very good reply which I think answers > all of my questions (I have pasted them in the lower section of this email.) > My original reason for asking about InDesign as a replacement for > Framemaker was that I have been asked by a new manager to dispose of > Framemaker and transfer all writing tasks, 700 page User Guides, and various > other docs to InDesign. The problem I am worried about is that we use a lot > of cross references throughout the chapters and books and have a large > fairly comprehensive Index. I reviewed the DTP Tools Cross-Reference plug-in for InDesign CS2 and CS3 for InDesign Magazine around last December's issue. You'd have to buy the issue to see the whole review, but very briefly: It's on par with FM's cross-reference ability, and in some ways a little better. There's also a free cross-reference script that creates page-number-only references, and a commercial cross-reference tool from Virginia Systems that I didn't test. > I also use conditional text to output several > versions of the same doc. Can this be done in InDesign? ID CS3 has no conditional text, and I'm not aware of a third-party tool that offers it. The usual workaround is to create the different versions of content on different layers, and show or hide them as needed. It's not a good solution for content, product, or audience variations in a single language, because you really are maintaining multiple copies of the common content, and have to be careful to avoid introducing unwanted differences when editing. This is much the same effort as maintaining one separate file for each version. For multiple languages, where all content, or at least all text content, is translated in each variation, layers can work. Text wrap (FM's Text Runaround object property) is smart about working through layers, so showing/hiding different language layers with careful planning may simplify handling graphics in each language) and, BTW, ID wraps text around all sides of an object if you want, not just three sides as FM does. However, another approach is to use ID's XML ability to filter marked-up XML content. Mostly XML is being used with ID for variable-data publishing, and other automated production. There's no dedicated DITA support in ID. > And what about > generating a help system for InDesign, is it possible? There's no tightly-bound partner for help from ID, though again its XML export is one way to implement help coupled with other third-party tools. RTF export may be another possibility. I haven't heard anyone claim to be doing this. Yet. > > I believe that Art answered all of these questions, but feel free to make > any other comments or suggestions. > > Thanks for the help > Mulholand > > Here are Art's comments: > << I've moved books & files from FM to InDesign CS3, and unless there's > something else going on that the manager didn't share with you or you > didn't present in your email, this is going to be a Bad Idea of large > tarbaby proportions... > > InDesign is great for short docs, or even books, that require a lot of > individual formatting and exceptions to the base template or master > pages. It was designed as a PageMaker replacement, and it fulfills > that role very nicely. It's a nice program. > > Frame was designed to handle large books, multiple documents, and doc > sets that basically use the same type or set of page layouts in order > to produce a uniform look and feel. Essentially the 700 page User > Guide scenario that you present. ID has running header/footer variables, user-defined variables, master pages (even master pages based on other master pages), multiple numbering streams (1.1.1.1, and 1,A,ii,b, etc) for lists, figure captions, etc, as FM has. Page and chapter numbering, footnotes, and across-file numbering in books, are the same, but ID also can make multi-page spreads with appropriate page numbers on left and right (or on spreads of as many as ten pages) - FM can't. This isn't a common need in technical docs, so it's not a biggie. ID CS3 books are better than FM's in some ways, the same in some others, and worse in a few others. ID book files are lists of files, and instructions for processing them, like FM books. FM's cool feature of showing filename or first paragraph content in the book list is a good tool that ID lacks, but ID's Pages panel (like PageMaker's, if you know PM) shows thumbnail views of the pages in the current file, as well as identifying the master pages used on each page; you can identify chapter-opener page thumbnails easily, which is
Re: InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker
A drop in the pond on this runaway thread - For the documents I produce, there is no way that InDesign could handle the work of Frame. That would be a real nightmare. In other words, they *cannot*do each other´s jobs. I tend to be a meticulous user of Frame, and all of those features missing from ID are key components to my workflow, and were they lost, I seriously doubt that my documents could be managed effectively. Further, it goes beyond these basics and when you start getting into the details, you find similar problems. Variables, equations, and conditional text are *really, really powerful*tools if you just develop the right work habits. At first it might seem a pain in the ass, but once you get into the flow (and with some planning), you start saving time incrementally. Cheers, Robert On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 5:33 AM, Seraphim Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Well said, Jeremy! Seraphim On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Jeremy H. Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:46:29 -0700, Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hardly see how your request is related to natural justice any more or less than a request to also allow simultaneous activation of the same license of FrameMaker on computers used by other members of your family. rant Really, Dov? The first complies with the spirit, if not the letter, of the EULA. The second is an obvious violation. No difference??? Unbelievable. And just how many other *family members* are going to use Frame, for God's sake? Mif2Go has a very effective system of license control; it's called the Honor System. It works. It's the only method we could find that does not interfere with usage by our licensed customers. We trust you. Impractical, you say? Wake up! Pirates can break *any* system you use in less than an hour. And broken copies of Adobe apps are available all over the Web; we must get fifty spams a day offering them. So the only folks your anti-piracy measures affect are your *honest* users. You might think that with such an arrangement, people would never buy a second license in the same company. Why would they, if all they had to do was copy from their colleague? Guess what; it doesn't happen. We have more license purchases for *additional* copies than for singles. If you treat people as honest, they *are*. If you treat them like criminals, well... you say more about yourself than about them. /rant -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.omsys.com/ ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robertwrogge%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Robert Rogge 93-423-1784 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker
Well said, Jeremy! Seraphim On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Jeremy H. Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:46:29 -0700, Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hardly see how your request is related to natural justice any more or less than a request to also allow simultaneous activation of the same license of FrameMaker on computers used by other members of your family. rant Really, Dov? The first complies with the spirit, if not the letter, of the EULA. The second is an obvious violation. No difference??? Unbelievable. And just how many other *family members* are going to use Frame, for God's sake? Mif2Go has a very effective system of license control; it's called the Honor System. It works. It's the only method we could find that does not interfere with usage by our licensed customers. We trust you. Impractical, you say? Wake up! Pirates can break *any* system you use in less than an hour. And broken copies of Adobe apps are available all over the Web; we must get fifty spams a day offering them. So the only folks your anti-piracy measures affect are your *honest* users. You might think that with such an arrangement, people would never buy a second license in the same company. Why would they, if all they had to do was copy from their colleague? Guess what; it doesn't happen. We have more license purchases for *additional* copies than for singles. If you treat people as honest, they *are*. If you treat them like criminals, well... you say more about yourself than about them. /rant -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.omsys.com/ ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker
Am 12.09.2008 um 00:17 schrieb Peter Gold: Hi, Dov: On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To be very clear, although designed as a replacement for PageMaker, InDesign was certainly not designed by Adobe to be a replacement for FrameMaker. Yes, over time a number of FrameMaker features have been incorporated into InDesign, but unless you are using none of FrameMaker's structured features (support for XML and DITA), and conditional text, equations, etc., InDesign won't satisfy your needs. InDesign's XML abilities are used in database publishing and other automated workflows. It also works with DTDs. Can you comment the pros and cons of FM's XML support vs. ID's XML support? Both products can be used to *publish* XML documents, with differences in details. Only FrameMaker provides a validating *authoring* environment for long XML-structured documents. - Michael -- ___ Michael Müller-Hillebrand: Dokumentations-Technologie Adobe Certified Expert, FrameMaker Lösungen und Training, FrameScript, XML/XSL, Unicode http://cap-studio.de/ -- Tel. +49 (9131) 28747 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker
Graeme, Don't count on getting that extra activation. The EULA is quite clear in terms of how many systems - two - you may simultaneously install and activate simultaneously and that you may legally only execute on one of those at any time. I hardly see how your request is related to natural justice any more or less than a request to also allow simultaneous activation of the same license of FrameMaker on computers used by other members of your family. - Dov -Original Message- From: Rick Quatro Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 5:33 AM Hi Graeme, FrameMaker now has activation with version 8. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com One really maddening issue is activation. A single-user license only lets you have 2 activations, so if like me you have a home desktop, an office desktop, and a laptop, something has to give. I'm going to try to appeal to Adobe's sense of natural justice to get a third activation for my laptop. Pray for me. Graeme Forbes ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker
Adobe (and many other companies) must learn that many writers use products on different computers at different times, and their approach puts hurdles in the way of honest customers. There must be a technological way to prevent the same application from being used by two different people at the same time. That is the solution, not a policy that fails to keep up with the needs of the customer base. ymmv, etc john From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Dov Isaacs Sent: Fri 9/12/2008 11:46 AM To: framers; Graeme R Forbes Subject: RE: InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker Graeme, Don't count on getting that extra activation. The EULA is quite clear in terms of how many systems - two - you may simultaneously install and activate simultaneously and that you may legally only execute on one of those at any time. I hardly see how your request is related to natural justice any more or less than a request to also allow simultaneous activation of the same license of FrameMaker on computers used by other members of your family. - Dov -Original Message- From: Rick Quatro Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 5:33 AM Hi Graeme, FrameMaker now has activation with version 8. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com One really maddening issue is activation. A single-user license only lets you have 2 activations, so if like me you have a home desktop, an office desktop, and a laptop, something has to give. I'm going to try to appeal to Adobe's sense of natural justice to get a third activation for my laptop. Pray for me. Graeme Forbes ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jsgammato%40imprivata.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker
Respectfuilly, That is the solution, not a policy that fails adapt to today's technological reality...regards, Kelly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Sgammato Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 10:48 AM To: Dov Isaacs; framers; Graeme R Forbes Subject: RE: InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker Adobe (and many other companies) must learn that many writers use products on different computers at different times, and their approach puts hurdles in the way of honest customers. There must be a technological way to prevent the same application from being used by two different people at the same time. That is the solution, not a policy that fails to keep up with the needs of the customer base. ymmv, etc john From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Dov Isaacs Sent: Fri 9/12/2008 11:46 AM To: framers; Graeme R Forbes Subject: RE: InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker Graeme, Don't count on getting that extra activation. The EULA is quite clear in terms of how many systems - two - you may simultaneously install and activate simultaneously and that you may legally only execute on one of those at any time. I hardly see how your request is related to natural justice any more or less than a request to also allow simultaneous activation of the same license of FrameMaker on computers used by other members of your family. - Dov -Original Message- From: Rick Quatro Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 5:33 AM Hi Graeme, FrameMaker now has activation with version 8. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com One really maddening issue is activation. A single-user license only lets you have 2 activations, so if like me you have a home desktop, an office desktop, and a laptop, something has to give. I'm going to try to appeal to Adobe's sense of natural justice to get a third activation for my laptop. Pray for me. Graeme Forbes ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jsgammato%40imprivat a.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/kmcdaniel%40pavtech. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker
FWIW, the current implementation actually allows more than two installations, but limits activation to two systems. Conceivably, you could deactivate the first system, activate the third, and when done with the third, deactivate it and reactivate the first. Sure there is a way of assuring that a particular copy of the application is not used by more than one person at a time, but would you want a requirement that you be on-line with a link to Adobe at all times when using our products? I know I couldn't work that way! The other problem is that such a scheme (or a modified version of same) would effectively allow a United States-based user to run the software during the day in the United States and a comrade in India to run the same software on a different machine during their work day. Clearly, that is not the intent of the EULA for this product. - Dov -Original Message- From: John Sgammato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 8:48 AM Adobe (and many other companies) must learn that many writers use products on different computers at different times, and their approach puts hurdles in the way of honest customers. There must be a technological way to prevent the same application from being used by two different people at the same time. That is the solution, not a policy that fails to keep up with the needs of the customer base. ymmv, etc john From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Dov Isaacs Sent: Fri 9/12/2008 11:46 AM To: framers; Graeme R Forbes Subject: RE: InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker Graeme, Don't count on getting that extra activation. The EULA is quite clear in terms of how many systems - two - you may simultaneously install and activate simultaneously and that you may legally only execute on one of those at any time. I hardly see how your request is related to natural justice any more or less than a request to also allow simultaneous activation of the same license of FrameMaker on computers used by other members of your family. - Dov -Original Message- From: Rick Quatro Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 5:33 AM Hi Graeme, FrameMaker now has activation with version 8. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com One really maddening issue is activation. A single-user license only lets you have 2 activations, so if like me you have a home desktop, an office desktop, and a laptop, something has to give. I'm going to try to appeal to Adobe's sense of natural justice to get a third activation for my laptop. Pray for me. Graeme Forbes ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker
Regarding the need to run Frame on multiple computers and manage licenses: what about running Frame from a Citrix server? Is this an option that Adobe supports for large installations? Just curious, Martin Martin R. Smith www.golehtek.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker
As someone who has faced that issue at a former job (users running our single-license pkg on Citrix) I would think not. As I recall, the well-written EULA contains language that prohibits serving a single-seat license to multiple clients...Kelly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 1:13 PM To: framers Subject: RE: InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker Regarding the need to run Frame on multiple computers and manage licenses: what about running Frame from a Citrix server? Is this an option that Adobe supports for large installations? Just curious, Martin Martin R. Smith www.golehtek.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/kmcdaniel%40pavtech. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:46:29 -0700, Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hardly see how your request is related to natural justice any more or less than a request to also allow simultaneous activation of the same license of FrameMaker on computers used by other members of your family. rant Really, Dov? The first complies with the spirit, if not the letter, of the EULA. The second is an obvious violation. No difference??? Unbelievable. And just how many other *family members* are going to use Frame, for God's sake? Mif2Go has a very effective system of license control; it's called the Honor System. It works. It's the only method we could find that does not interfere with usage by our licensed customers. We trust you. Impractical, you say? Wake up! Pirates can break *any* system you use in less than an hour. And broken copies of Adobe apps are available all over the Web; we must get fifty spams a day offering them. So the only folks your anti-piracy measures affect are your *honest* users. You might think that with such an arrangement, people would never buy a second license in the same company. Why would they, if all they had to do was copy from their colleague? Guess what; it doesn't happen. We have more license purchases for *additional* copies than for singles. If you treat people as honest, they *are*. If you treat them like criminals, well... you say more about yourself than about them. /rant -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker
To be very clear, although designed as a replacement for PageMaker, InDesign was certainly not designed by Adobe to be a replacement for FrameMaker. Yes, over time a number of FrameMaker features have been incorporated into InDesign, but unless you are using none of FrameMaker's structured features (support for XML and DITA), and conditional text, equations, etc., InDesign won't satisfy your needs. - Dov -Original Message- From: mulholland4 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 11:17 AM Hi everyone, Has anyone replaced Framemaker with InDesign? Is this possible? What are the pro's and cons? Does anyone know of an in depth study of this topic. Any useful comments would be much appreciated. Thanks Mulholland ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker
Hi, Dov: On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To be very clear, although designed as a replacement for PageMaker, InDesign was certainly not designed by Adobe to be a replacement for FrameMaker. Yes, over time a number of FrameMaker features have been incorporated into InDesign, but unless you are using none of FrameMaker's structured features (support for XML and DITA), and conditional text, equations, etc., InDesign won't satisfy your needs. InDesign's XML abilities are used in database publishing and other automated workflows. It also works with DTDs. Can you comment the pros and cons of FM's XML support vs. ID's XML support? Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker
The only comment I will make is that the support is very different and that you cannot simply replace FrameMaker with InDesign if you are using FrameMaker's structured tools. - Dov -Original Message- From: Peter Gold Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:17 PM Hi, Dov: On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To be very clear, although designed as a replacement for PageMaker, InDesign was certainly not designed by Adobe to be a replacement for FrameMaker. Yes, over time a number of FrameMaker features have been incorporated into InDesign, but unless you are using none of FrameMaker's structured features (support for XML and DITA), and conditional text, equations, etc., InDesign won't satisfy your needs. InDesign's XML abilities are used in database publishing and other automated workflows. It also works with DTDs. Can you comment the pros and cons of FM's XML support vs. ID's XML support? Regards, Peter ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
