RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-20 Thread Craig Ede
There is no timing to it. Press Esc; let it go; press m; let it go; press p;
let it go. These are not keys pressed in combination but in sequence and you
can count to 10 between the keystrokes if you want to. Works every time.
It's the shrink-wrap function. Great for making sure you have the entire
graphic showing in an anchored frame. 

 

Remember: Don't press the keys at the same time; it's one after the other.

 

Craig

 

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alastair Dent
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:39 AM
To: Fred Ridder; Reng, Dr. Winfried; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics

 

I'm sorry you feel that way, Fred.

 

I did try your solution and couldn't get it to work straight off. It seems
for some reason that the timing of the entry of esc m p is absolutely
crucial. 

 

Winfried was the first to suggest using object styles, maybe because they
only came in with Frame 11.

 

When I have received off-list responses, I've often responded to the list,
not directly to the sender. Not all of my responses to the list are coming
up on the list, and some are taking as long as 3 days to appear. 

 

From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: 18 September 2013 03:42
To: Alastair Dent; Reng, Dr. Winfried; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics

 

For the record, I recommended this exact solution in a direct (off-list)
reply to Alastair last Monday, within hours of his original query appearing
on the list. I use it all the time and would go crazy without it.

It appears that perhaps Alastair (or his employer) has his email account set
up to block messages from unknown individuals and only accepts messages that
are posted to the list. At least one other poster has noted he sent several
private replies to you that had gone unacknowledged even though they
proposed workable solutions. 

If you're posting a query, it probably would be a very good idea for you to
mention any restriction to how list members should reply (e.g. direct
replies only because you're on digest, or on-list replies only due to email
filtering) so that the rest of us don't waste too much time and energy.

Cranky in New Jersey...
-Fred Ridder

 From: alastair.d...@imgtec.com
 To: wr...@tycoint.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics
 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:54:51 +
 
 Winfried, I could kiss you. 
 
 That works - although I have to be careful with the timing of the ESC m p;
too fast and it doesn't work, too slow and it just types 'mp' at the
insertion point.
 
 Do we have gold star awards for framers?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Reng, Dr.
Winfried
 Sent: 17 September 2013 08:51
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics
 
 Hi Alastair,
 
 I also think that icons are far better than just the tooltip text.
 Of course this depends always on your audience ...
 
 Why don't you do it this way?
 Copy the new icon.
 Place the cursor where you want it to have.
 Paste the graphic there (CTRL + V).
 Press ESC m p (which will shrinkwrap the anchored frame to the size of
your icon; additonally the anchoring position is set to At Insertion Point).
Press these keys one after the other.
 
 If the icon should be moved up or down, then you have to select the
anchored frame and change the Distance above Baseline.
 Create an object style with the correct distance and save it.
 Then you can apply this setting with a mouse click.
 
 Or do you have other settings of your anchored frame?
 After all these e-mails I do not know your actual settings.
 
 Best regards
 
 Winfried
 
  -Original Message-
  From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- 
  boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alastair Dent
  Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 9:54 AM
  To: Robert Lauriston
  Cc: David Creamer; framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics
 
  I'm using something like your suggested workflow.
 
  The downside of it is that pasting into the pre-formatted frame 
  doesn't work well. Even if the scratch icon bitmap is selected, pasting
doesn't replace it.
  Selecting the frame and pasting results in the bitmap appearing in the 
  centre of the page. It has to be manually dragged from there to the
frame.
 
  Just documenting the tooltip text is a huge failure in usability for 
  the end user.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] 
  On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
  Sent: 15 September 2013 18:30
  To: Alastair Dent
  Cc: David Creamer; framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Subject: Re: Inserting inline graphics
 
  Extracting the icons from the plug-in source should not be difficult, 
  they're usually all in one directory.
 
  Assuming the icons are all

RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-20 Thread Alastair Dent
That's not my experience, Craig.

This isn't the only frame key shortcut that has to be timed.

For example, if I want to apply a style, I press F9

I then need to wait for the list of styles to be displayed. Once it is up, I 
can type the name of the style to select it. If I type too fast - some 
keystrokes seem to go astray. If I type too slowly, Frame thinks I'm starting a 
different style with each letter.

Maybe I need a faster  PC.

From: Craig Ede [mailto:craig...@hotmail.com]
Sent: 19 September 2013 06:13
To: Alastair Dent; 'Framer's List'
Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics

There is no timing to it. Press Esc; let it go; press m; let it go; press p; 
let it go. These are not keys pressed in combination but in sequence and you 
can count to 10 between the keystrokes if you want to. Works every time. It's 
the shrink-wrap function. Great for making sure you have the entire graphic 
showing in an anchored frame.

Remember: Don't press the keys at the same time; it's one after the other.

Craig

From: 
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alastair Dent
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:39 AM
To: Fred Ridder; Reng, Dr. Winfried; 
framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics

I'm sorry you feel that way, Fred.

I did try your solution and couldn't get it to work straight off. It seems for 
some reason that the timing of the entry of esc m p is absolutely crucial.

Winfried was the first to suggest using object styles, maybe because they only 
came in with Frame 11.

When I have received off-list responses, I've often responded to the list, not 
directly to the sender. Not all of my responses to the list are coming up on 
the list, and some are taking as long as 3 days to appear.

From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com]
Sent: 18 September 2013 03:42
To: Alastair Dent; Reng, Dr. Winfried; 
framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics

For the record, I recommended this exact solution in a direct (off-list) reply 
to Alastair last Monday, within hours of his original query appearing on the 
list. I use it all the time and would go crazy without it.

It appears that perhaps Alastair (or his employer) has his email account set up 
to block messages from unknown individuals and only accepts messages that are 
posted to the list. At least one other poster has noted he sent several private 
replies to you that had gone unacknowledged even though they proposed workable 
solutions.

If you're posting a query, it probably would be a very good idea for you to 
mention any restriction to how list members should reply (e.g. direct replies 
only because you're on digest, or on-list replies only due to email filtering) 
so that the rest of us don't waste too much time and energy.

Cranky in New Jersey...
-Fred Ridder
 From: alastair.d...@imgtec.commailto:alastair.d...@imgtec.com
 To: wr...@tycoint.commailto:wr...@tycoint.com; 
 framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics
 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:54:51 +

 Winfried, I could kiss you.

 That works - although I have to be careful with the timing of the ESC m p; 
 too fast and it doesn't work, too slow and it just types 'mp' at the 
 insertion point.

 Do we have gold star awards for framers?

 -Original Message-
 From: 
 framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
  [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Reng, Dr. Winfried
 Sent: 17 September 2013 08:51
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics

 Hi Alastair,

 I also think that icons are far better than just the tooltip text.
 Of course this depends always on your audience ...

 Why don't you do it this way?
 Copy the new icon.
 Place the cursor where you want it to have.
 Paste the graphic there (CTRL + V).
 Press ESC m p (which will shrinkwrap the anchored frame to the size of your 
 icon; additonally the anchoring position is set to At Insertion Point). Press 
 these keys one after the other.

 If the icon should be moved up or down, then you have to select the anchored 
 frame and change the Distance above Baseline.
 Create an object style with the correct distance and save it.
 Then you can apply this setting with a mouse click.

 Or do you have other settings of your anchored frame?
 After all these e-mails I do not know your actual settings.

 Best regards

 Winfried

  -Original Message-
  From: 
  framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
   [mailto:framers-
  boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On 
  Behalf Of Alastair Dent
  Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 9:54 AM
  To: Robert Lauriston
  Cc: David Creamer

RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-20 Thread Craig Ede
Another one of those new FrameMaker features that people seem to overlook...

 

Craig

 

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:22 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Inserting inline graphics

 

On 2013-Sep-18 3:38 AM, Alastair Dent wrote:

 

Winfried was the first to suggest using object styles, maybe because they only 
came in with Frame 11.

 

 

Um, no, I suggested them on Sept. 9 in a message to Matt Sullivan, copied to 
the list and to Alistair... 

(credit where due dept.:-)

s.



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Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-19 Thread Stuart Rogers

On 2013-Sep-18 3:38 AM, Alastair Dent wrote:


Winfried was the first to suggest using object styles, maybe because 
they only came in with Frame 11.



Um, no, I suggested them on Sept. 9 in a message to Matt Sullivan, 
copied to the list and to Alistair...


(credit where due dept.:-)

s.

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Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
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RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-18 Thread Alastair Dent
I'm sorry you feel that way, Fred.

I did try your solution and couldn't get it to work straight off. It seems for 
some reason that the timing of the entry of esc m p is absolutely crucial.

Winfried was the first to suggest using object styles, maybe because they only 
came in with Frame 11.

When I have received off-list responses, I've often responded to the list, not 
directly to the sender. Not all of my responses to the list are coming up on 
the list, and some are taking as long as 3 days to appear.

From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com]
Sent: 18 September 2013 03:42
To: Alastair Dent; Reng, Dr. Winfried; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics

For the record, I recommended this exact solution in a direct (off-list) reply 
to Alastair last Monday, within hours of his original query appearing on the 
list. I use it all the time and would go crazy without it.

It appears that perhaps Alastair (or his employer) has his email account set up 
to block messages from unknown individuals and only accepts messages that are 
posted to the list. At least one other poster has noted he sent several private 
replies to you that had gone unacknowledged even though they proposed workable 
solutions.

If you're posting a query, it probably would be a very good idea for you to 
mention any restriction to how list members should reply (e.g. direct replies 
only because you're on digest, or on-list replies only due to email filtering) 
so that the rest of us don't waste too much time and energy.

Cranky in New Jersey...
-Fred Ridder
 From: alastair.d...@imgtec.commailto:alastair.d...@imgtec.com
 To: wr...@tycoint.commailto:wr...@tycoint.com; 
 framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics
 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:54:51 +

 Winfried, I could kiss you.

 That works - although I have to be careful with the timing of the ESC m p; 
 too fast and it doesn't work, too slow and it just types 'mp' at the 
 insertion point.

 Do we have gold star awards for framers?

 -Original Message-
 From: 
 framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
  [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Reng, Dr. Winfried
 Sent: 17 September 2013 08:51
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics

 Hi Alastair,

 I also think that icons are far better than just the tooltip text.
 Of course this depends always on your audience ...

 Why don't you do it this way?
 Copy the new icon.
 Place the cursor where you want it to have.
 Paste the graphic there (CTRL + V).
 Press ESC m p (which will shrinkwrap the anchored frame to the size of your 
 icon; additonally the anchoring position is set to At Insertion Point). Press 
 these keys one after the other.

 If the icon should be moved up or down, then you have to select the anchored 
 frame and change the Distance above Baseline.
 Create an object style with the correct distance and save it.
 Then you can apply this setting with a mouse click.

 Or do you have other settings of your anchored frame?
 After all these e-mails I do not know your actual settings.

 Best regards

 Winfried

  -Original Message-
  From: 
  framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
   [mailto:framers-
  boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On 
  Behalf Of Alastair Dent
  Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 9:54 AM
  To: Robert Lauriston
  Cc: David Creamer; 
  framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics
 
  I'm using something like your suggested workflow.
 
  The downside of it is that pasting into the pre-formatted frame
  doesn't work well. Even if the scratch icon bitmap is selected, pasting 
  doesn't replace it.
  Selecting the frame and pasting results in the bitmap appearing in the
  centre of the page. It has to be manually dragged from there to the frame.
 
  Just documenting the tooltip text is a huge failure in usability for
  the end user.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: robert.lauris...@gmail.commailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com 
  [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com]
  On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
  Sent: 15 September 2013 18:30
  To: Alastair Dent
  Cc: David Creamer; 
  framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Subject: Re: Inserting inline graphics
 
  Extracting the icons from the plug-in source should not be difficult,
  they're usually all in one directory.
 
  Assuming the icons are all the same size, in a separate .fm file
  create one frame with one scratch icon bitmap with all the settings as you 
  want them.
  Copy and paste that into your main document, copy your new icon
  bitmap, select the scratch icon bitmap, and paste.
 
  I think that's the fastest workflow you'll get unless maybe you wrote
  a FrameScript macro

RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-17 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi Alastair,

I also think that icons are far better than just the tooltip text.
Of course this depends always on your audience ...

Why don't you do it this way?
Copy the new icon.
Place the cursor where you want it to have.
Paste the graphic there (CTRL + V).
Press ESC m p (which will shrinkwrap the anchored frame
to the size of your icon; additonally the anchoring position
is set to At Insertion Point). Press these keys one after
the other.

If the icon should be moved up or down, then you have to
select the anchored frame and change the Distance above Baseline.
Create an object style with the correct distance and save it.
Then you can apply this setting with a mouse click.

Or do you have other settings of your anchored frame?
After all these e-mails I do not know your actual settings.

Best regards

Winfried

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-
 boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alastair Dent
 Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 9:54 AM
 To: Robert Lauriston
 Cc: David Creamer; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics

 I'm using something like your suggested workflow.

 The downside of it is that pasting into the pre-formatted frame doesn't work
 well. Even if the scratch icon bitmap is selected, pasting doesn't replace it.
 Selecting the frame and pasting results in the bitmap appearing in the centre
 of the page. It has to be manually dragged from there to the frame.

 Just documenting the tooltip text is a huge failure in usability for the end
 user.

 -Original Message-
 From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On
 Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
 Sent: 15 September 2013 18:30
 To: Alastair Dent
 Cc: David Creamer; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Inserting inline graphics

 Extracting the icons from the plug-in source should not be difficult, they're
 usually all in one directory.

 Assuming the icons are all the same size, in a separate .fm file create one
 frame with one scratch icon bitmap with all the settings as you want them.
 Copy and paste that into your main document, copy your new icon bitmap,
 select the scratch icon bitmap, and paste.

 I think that's the fastest workflow you'll get unless maybe you wrote a
 FrameScript macro.

 To me it seems like a huge waste of time. I'd just document the tooltip text.

 On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Alastair Dent alastair.d...@imgtec.com
 wrote:
  I'm documenting a complex plugin for Eclipse. I will only know which
 buttons I need in the text as I'm writing. To pull out the button icons from 
 the
 entire product and convert them would be a huge job.



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RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-17 Thread Combs, Richard
Alastair Dent wrote:
 
 I'm using something like your suggested workflow.
 
 The downside of it is that pasting into the pre-formatted frame doesn't work
 well. Even if the scratch icon bitmap is selected, pasting doesn't replace it.
 Selecting the frame and pasting results in the bitmap appearing in the centre
 of the page. It has to be manually dragged from there to the frame.

I haven't followed this closely, but I think what you want is Robert's workflow 
without the pasting. Although selecting the frame and pasting should work (and 
IIRC it used to), pasting graphics into FM is generally a bad idea. Importing 
(whether by reference or by copying into the document) is much better. 

Assuming you've put all the icon files in a single graphics folder, importing 
is just as fast as copy/paste (maybe faster after the first one). 

1) Where you want to insert an icon, paste the properly sized/set anchored 
frame containing what Robert called the scratch icon bitmap. 

2) Click the scratch icon to select it (don't select the containing anchored 
frame) and press (in sequence) Escape f i f (file import file). 

3) Navigate to your graphics folder, select the icon file you want, and click 
Replace. 

4) In the Imported Graphic Scaling dialog, just click Set; since you're 
replacing an existing graphic, FM assumes you want the same sizing/scaling, and 
you do. 

The next time you do this, FM remembers the graphics folder location, so it 
goes quite quickly from then on. 

HTH!

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Polycom, Inc.
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RE: Inserting Inline Graphics - and AutoText

2013-09-17 Thread O'Laoghaire Micheal
We're  long-time users of the AutoText plugin and it has saved us countless 
hours and much aggravation.

Micheal O'Laoghaire
Comverse Inc
Wakefield, MA


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Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 2:07 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Inserting inline graphics

I'm late to this discussion too. It's this sort of thing that caused me to
create the Auto-Text plug-in. At the time, the template I was using had
anchored frames for hints, warnings, database tasks, multicurrency tasks,
as well as various in-line anchored frames for special characters like the
pretzel key for the Macintosh. It drove all of the writers crazy having
to manually add these each time.

That's where Auto-Text comes in. You can define the content exactly as you
want it to appear in your document. Then you copy it into the AutoText.fm
document to define the AutoText entry. Give it a name, and a keyboard
shortcut (optional). Then, when you want to use the item, just place the
insertion point in your document, and choose the item from the AutoText
menu (or use the keyboard shortcut). Auto-Text will copy the item from the
AutoText.fm document, and paste it into your current document.

You have a lot of flexibility when defining the AutoText items. You can
use anchored frames with referenced graphics, using relative paths. When
you insert the Auto-Text entry, the relative paths are preserved. If you
need to change a graphic, you can just swap it out like you would any
other reference Frame graphic. You can even create AutoText entries that
reference content on a Reference page.

A single-user license is only $10. You can download the plug-in at the
Silicon Prairie web site (http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com). It's
fully-functional, but will periodically display registration reminders.
You can try it out at no cost to see if it would help you with your issue.

Steve

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Re: Inserting Inline Graphics - and AutoText

2013-09-17 Thread Dave Reynolds
I would agree with Michael. We've used AutoText for years to insert 
anchored frames containing icons/small graphics - both in-line and in 
the margins. It has saved us a lot of time. It seems like the perfect 
solution for Alastair (the original poster).


I have mentioned AutoText to Alastairin a couple of personal emails, but 
I never got a response. Maybe my emails got lost, or filtered out as spam?


Cheers

Dave


O'Laoghaire Micheal wrote, on 18/09/2013 6:13 a.m.:

We're  long-time users of the AutoText plugin and it has saved us countless 
hours and much aggravation.

Micheal O'Laoghaire
Comverse Inc
Wakefield, MA


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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
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st...@siliconprairiesoftware.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 2:07 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Inserting inline graphics

I'm late to this discussion too. It's this sort of thing that caused me to
create the Auto-Text plug-in. At the time, the template I was using had
anchored frames for hints, warnings, database tasks, multicurrency tasks,
as well as various in-line anchored frames for special characters like the
pretzel key for the Macintosh. It drove all of the writers crazy having
to manually add these each time.

That's where Auto-Text comes in. You can define the content exactly as you
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You can try it out at no cost to see if it would help you with your issue.

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RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-17 Thread Alastair Dent
Winfried, I could kiss you. 

That works - although I have to be careful with the timing of the ESC m p; too 
fast and it doesn't work, too slow and it just types 'mp' at the insertion 
point.

Do we have gold star awards for framers?

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Reng, Dr. Winfried
Sent: 17 September 2013 08:51
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics

Hi Alastair,

I also think that icons are far better than just the tooltip text.
Of course this depends always on your audience ...

Why don't you do it this way?
Copy the new icon.
Place the cursor where you want it to have.
Paste the graphic there (CTRL + V).
Press ESC m p (which will shrinkwrap the anchored frame to the size of your 
icon; additonally the anchoring position is set to At Insertion Point). Press 
these keys one after the other.

If the icon should be moved up or down, then you have to select the anchored 
frame and change the Distance above Baseline.
Create an object style with the correct distance and save it.
Then you can apply this setting with a mouse click.

Or do you have other settings of your anchored frame?
After all these e-mails I do not know your actual settings.

Best regards

Winfried

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- 
 boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alastair Dent
 Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 9:54 AM
 To: Robert Lauriston
 Cc: David Creamer; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics

 I'm using something like your suggested workflow.

 The downside of it is that pasting into the pre-formatted frame 
 doesn't work well. Even if the scratch icon bitmap is selected, pasting 
 doesn't replace it.
 Selecting the frame and pasting results in the bitmap appearing in the 
 centre of the page. It has to be manually dragged from there to the frame.

 Just documenting the tooltip text is a huge failure in usability for 
 the end user.

 -Original Message-
 From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] 
 On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
 Sent: 15 September 2013 18:30
 To: Alastair Dent
 Cc: David Creamer; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Inserting inline graphics

 Extracting the icons from the plug-in source should not be difficult, 
 they're usually all in one directory.

 Assuming the icons are all the same size, in a separate .fm file 
 create one frame with one scratch icon bitmap with all the settings as you 
 want them.
 Copy and paste that into your main document, copy your new icon 
 bitmap, select the scratch icon bitmap, and paste.

 I think that's the fastest workflow you'll get unless maybe you wrote 
 a FrameScript macro.

 To me it seems like a huge waste of time. I'd just document the tooltip text.

 On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Alastair Dent 
 alastair.d...@imgtec.com
 wrote:
  I'm documenting a complex plugin for Eclipse. I will only know which
 buttons I need in the text as I'm writing. To pull out the button 
 icons from the entire product and convert them would be a huge job.



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RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-17 Thread Craig Ede
Testimonial: Works like a charm! (I used it at a job some years back.)
Craig

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I'm late to this discussion too. It's this sort of thing that caused me to
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RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-17 Thread Fred Ridder
For the record, I recommended this exact solution in a direct (off-list) reply 
to Alastair last Monday, within hours of his original query appearing on the 
list. I use it all the time and would go crazy without it.

It appears that perhaps Alastair (or his employer) has his email account set up 
to block messages from unknown individuals and only accepts messages that are 
posted to the list. At least one other poster has noted he sent several private 
replies to you that had gone unacknowledged even though they proposed workable 
solutions. 

If you're posting a query, it probably would be a very good idea for you to 
mention any restriction to how list members should reply (e.g. direct replies 
only because you're on digest, or on-list replies only due to email filtering) 
so that the rest of us don't waste too much time and energy.

Cranky in New Jersey...
-Fred Ridder

 From: alastair.d...@imgtec.com
 To: wr...@tycoint.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics
 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:54:51 +
 
 Winfried, I could kiss you. 
 
 That works - although I have to be careful with the timing of the ESC m p; 
 too fast and it doesn't work, too slow and it just types 'mp' at the 
 insertion point.
 
 Do we have gold star awards for framers?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Reng, Dr. Winfried
 Sent: 17 September 2013 08:51
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics
 
 Hi Alastair,
 
 I also think that icons are far better than just the tooltip text.
 Of course this depends always on your audience ...
 
 Why don't you do it this way?
 Copy the new icon.
 Place the cursor where you want it to have.
 Paste the graphic there (CTRL + V).
 Press ESC m p (which will shrinkwrap the anchored frame to the size of your 
 icon; additonally the anchoring position is set to At Insertion Point). Press 
 these keys one after the other.
 
 If the icon should be moved up or down, then you have to select the anchored 
 frame and change the Distance above Baseline.
 Create an object style with the correct distance and save it.
 Then you can apply this setting with a mouse click.
 
 Or do you have other settings of your anchored frame?
 After all these e-mails I do not know your actual settings.
 
 Best regards
 
 Winfried
 
  -Original Message-
  From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- 
  boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alastair Dent
  Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 9:54 AM
  To: Robert Lauriston
  Cc: David Creamer; framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics
 
  I'm using something like your suggested workflow.
 
  The downside of it is that pasting into the pre-formatted frame 
  doesn't work well. Even if the scratch icon bitmap is selected, pasting 
  doesn't replace it.
  Selecting the frame and pasting results in the bitmap appearing in the 
  centre of the page. It has to be manually dragged from there to the frame.
 
  Just documenting the tooltip text is a huge failure in usability for 
  the end user.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] 
  On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
  Sent: 15 September 2013 18:30
  To: Alastair Dent
  Cc: David Creamer; framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Subject: Re: Inserting inline graphics
 
  Extracting the icons from the plug-in source should not be difficult, 
  they're usually all in one directory.
 
  Assuming the icons are all the same size, in a separate .fm file 
  create one frame with one scratch icon bitmap with all the settings as you 
  want them.
  Copy and paste that into your main document, copy your new icon 
  bitmap, select the scratch icon bitmap, and paste.
 
  I think that's the fastest workflow you'll get unless maybe you wrote 
  a FrameScript macro.
 
  To me it seems like a huge waste of time. I'd just document the tooltip 
  text.
 
  On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Alastair Dent 
  alastair.d...@imgtec.com
  wrote:
   I'm documenting a complex plugin for Eclipse. I will only know which
  buttons I need in the text as I'm writing. To pull out the button 
  icons from the entire product and convert them would be a huge job.
 
 
 
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RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-16 Thread Alastair Dent
I'm using something like your suggested workflow.

The downside of it is that pasting into the pre-formatted frame doesn't work 
well. Even if the scratch icon bitmap is selected, pasting doesn't replace it. 
Selecting the frame and pasting results in the bitmap appearing in the centre 
of the page. It has to be manually dragged from there to the frame.

Just documenting the tooltip text is a huge failure in usability for the end 
user. 

-Original Message-
From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf 
Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: 15 September 2013 18:30
To: Alastair Dent
Cc: David Creamer; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Inserting inline graphics

Extracting the icons from the plug-in source should not be difficult, they're 
usually all in one directory.

Assuming the icons are all the same size, in a separate .fm file create one 
frame with one scratch icon bitmap with all the settings as you want them. Copy 
and paste that into your main document, copy your new icon bitmap, select the 
scratch icon bitmap, and paste.

I think that's the fastest workflow you'll get unless maybe you wrote a 
FrameScript macro.

To me it seems like a huge waste of time. I'd just document the tooltip text.

On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Alastair Dent alastair.d...@imgtec.com wrote:
 I'm documenting a complex plugin for Eclipse. I will only know which buttons 
 I need in the text as I'm writing. To pull out the button icons from the 
 entire product and convert them would be a huge job.

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Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-16 Thread Robert Lauriston
Huh, pasting over a selected bitmap used to stay in place. Another bad
change to the UI. The align commands might be faster and more precise
than dragging.

As a user I don't find it much work to find a button by its tooltip.
Usually the icon image gives some clue.

Normally I document the most efficient way to execute a command, which
is rarely via the toolbar button.

On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Alastair Dent
alastair.d...@imgtec.com wrote:
 I'm using something like your suggested workflow.

 The downside of it is that pasting into the pre-formatted frame doesn't work 
 well. Even if the scratch icon bitmap is selected, pasting doesn't replace 
 it. Selecting the frame and pasting results in the bitmap appearing in the 
 centre of the page. It has to be manually dragged from there to the frame.

 Just documenting the tooltip text is a huge failure in usability for the end 
 user.

 -Original Message-
 From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On 
 Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
 Sent: 15 September 2013 18:30
 To: Alastair Dent
 Cc: David Creamer; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Inserting inline graphics

 Extracting the icons from the plug-in source should not be difficult, they're 
 usually all in one directory.

 Assuming the icons are all the same size, in a separate .fm file create one 
 frame with one scratch icon bitmap with all the settings as you want them. 
 Copy and paste that into your main document, copy your new icon bitmap, 
 select the scratch icon bitmap, and paste.

 I think that's the fastest workflow you'll get unless maybe you wrote a 
 FrameScript macro.

 To me it seems like a huge waste of time. I'd just document the tooltip text.

 On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Alastair Dent alastair.d...@imgtec.com 
 wrote:
 I'm documenting a complex plugin for Eclipse. I will only know which buttons 
 I need in the text as I'm writing. To pull out the button icons from the 
 entire product and convert them would be a huge job.

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Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-16 Thread Robert Lauriston
Extracting the icons from the plug-in source should not be difficult,
they're usually all in one directory.

Assuming the icons are all the same size, in a separate .fm file
create one frame with one scratch icon bitmap with all the settings as
you want them. Copy and paste that into your main document, copy your
new icon bitmap, select the scratch icon bitmap, and paste.

I think that's the fastest workflow you'll get unless maybe you wrote
a FrameScript macro.

To me it seems like a huge waste of time. I'd just document the tooltip text.

On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Alastair Dent alastair.d...@imgtec.com wrote:
 I'm documenting a complex plugin for Eclipse. I will only know which buttons 
 I need in the text as I'm writing. To pull out the button icons from the 
 entire product and convert them would be a huge job.
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Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-13 Thread David Creamer
I could see where a custom font would be a problem if the job was not meant for 
print or PDF.
However, one could use HTML font-includes for web-based help or embed the font 
in an ePub.
Of course, that brings up other potential problems: such as having a reasonably 
up-to-date browser or ePub reader

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RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-13 Thread Alastair Dent
I don't think you quite understand.

I'm documenting a complex plugin for Eclipse. I will only know which buttons I 
need in the text as I'm writing. To pull out the button icons from the entire 
product and convert them would be a huge job.

What Frame needs is a way of defining frame 'tags'. These could be set up in 
the reference pages of a template, then applied to a frame.

Also, pasting a bitmap into a selected frame should not result in the bitmap 
appearing outside the frame, in the centre of the display. 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Creamer
Sent: 12 September 2013 23:00
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics

 As a workflow that would be simply impractical.

You are right--manually inserting hundreds of graphics is better than setting 
up a character tag or table tag and changing a letter to show the desired 
button. 

I my mind, I see it easier to put all the buttons in one font  (not one font 
per button). When typing, one could simply enter in a character for the button 
desired. 

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Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-13 Thread Robert Lauriston
Have you actually done that? I tried a few years ago and the theory
did not work in practice.

On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:35 PM, David Creamer
ideasli...@ideastraining.com wrote:
 I could see where a custom font would be a problem if the job was not meant 
 for print or PDF.
 However, one could use HTML font-includes for web-based help or embed the 
 font in an ePub.
 Of course, that brings up other potential problems: such as having a 
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RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-12 Thread David Creamer
 As a workflow that would be simply impractical.

You are right--manually inserting hundreds of graphics is better than
setting up a character tag or table tag and changing a letter to show the
desired button. 

I my mind, I see it easier to put all the buttons in one font  (not one
font per button). When typing, one could simply enter in a character for
the button desired. 

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Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-12 Thread Robert Lauriston
Creating a custom dingbat font for the icons could work if you were
delivering PDF.

It would be problematic for help formats that use the client's fonts.
Your authoring tool would have to convert the dingbats to images.

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 I my mind, I see it easier to put all the buttons in one font  (not one
 font per button). When typing, one could simply enter in a character for
 the button desired.
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Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-11 Thread Robert Lauriston
It might save time to copy and paste an existing frame containing an icon,
copy the icon you need, select the icon in the frame, and paste to replace
it.
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RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-11 Thread Alastair Dent
That sounds like a good idea, except that in Frame 11, selecting an bitmap in a 
frame and pasting a bitmap doesn't replace the selection! I can paste into an 
empty frame. The pasted bitmap is placed on the centre of the page but can be 
manually dragged into the frame.
I'm very disappointed in how poor Frame is at handling this. I could literally 
code HTML faster in a text editor, including adding graphics, than do this work 
in Frame.



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Subject: Re: Inserting inline graphics

It might save time to copy and paste an existing frame containing an icon, copy 
the icon you need, select the icon in the frame, and paste to replace it.
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Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-11 Thread David Creamer
What about converting the graphic to a font?
http://www.fontlab.com/font-editor/typetool/

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RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-11 Thread Alastair Dent
As a workflow that would be simply impractical.

This product has many, many button icons. More than exist in Word, for example. 
Many more.

I won't be using all of them. As I'm writing I will be 'inventing' procedures 
where I need to say 'Click X to ...'

I need a quick method for placing a screenshot of the button icon inline in a 
paragraph.

If I were writing in Word, I'd just paste the bitmap and use a macro to adjust 
size (if required).
If I were writing in HTML I'd save the bitmap as a file, then type a link in 
the html (using a class to control size and placing).

In Frame it seems to be a four-step manual process to paste and place the 
bitmap - and the placing and sizing can't even be controlled with a style.

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What about converting the graphic to a font?
http://www.fontlab.com/font-editor/typetool/

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Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-11 Thread Robert Lauriston
Yeah, FrameMaker's workflow isn't good for that. That's one reason I
avoid icon characters and in favor of tooltips.

You could probably automate it with FrameScript.

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 6:03 AM, Alastair Dent alastair.d...@imgtec.com wrote:
 As a workflow that would be simply impractical.

 This product has many, many button icons. More than exist in Word, for 
 example. Many more.

 I won't be using all of them. As I'm writing I will be 'inventing' procedures 
 where I need to say 'Click X to ...'

 I need a quick method for placing a screenshot of the button icon inline in a 
 paragraph.

 If I were writing in Word, I'd just paste the bitmap and use a macro to 
 adjust size (if required).
 If I were writing in HTML I'd save the bitmap as a file, then type a link in 
 the html (using a class to control size and placing).
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RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-10 Thread Alastair Dent
Thanks for your reply, Matt.

When I do the initial paste, FM defaults to placing the button icon below the 
insertion point line. Can I configure it to paste inline?


Thank other people for their responses. Setting up a document and 
pre-configuring the graphics in there is simply not practical. There are 
hundreds of icons in this product and I will only know which ones I need to use 
as I'm writing.

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I had to do that approximately eleventh-six hundred times in writing the Fm11 
book!

I set my cursor in the text, between ()'s, and hit paste. Then I used Alt+(down 
arrow) to wrangle it into position. I don't know that you'll find a faster 
solution than that...

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I need to be able to quickly insert graphics (button icons) into instructions.

I've had a brief go at this and it seems needlessly complex
Paste graphic
Select frame, chance to 'anchor at insertion point'.

I still end up with a button icon floating too high.

What am I missing?

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Technical Author
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Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-10 Thread Lin Sims
If someone has a copy of Bruce Fosters ImpGraph plugin that they're willing
to give you, that may do what you need. Unfortunately, Bruce has died and
as far as I am aware, this plugin is no longer publicly available. I'm also
unsure if it will work with anything past FM8.

You can also try Felix Ritter's fmGraphicTools. I'm less sure if it can do
what you need, and I have no information on its version compatibility. You
can find them at:
http://www.mevis-research.de/~ritter/awakeideas/fmtools.html

Hope that helps,

Lin


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Alastair Dent alastair.d...@imgtec.comwrote:

  Thanks for your reply, Matt.

 ** **

 When I do the initial paste, FM defaults to placing the button icon below
 the insertion point line. Can I configure it to paste inline?

 ** **

 ** **

 Thank other people for their responses. Setting up a document and
 pre-configuring the graphics in there is simply not practical. There are
 hundreds of icons in this product and I will only know which ones I need to
 use as I’m writing.

 ** **

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 *Sent:* 09 September 2013 22:20
 *To:* Alastair Dent
 *Cc:* framers@lists.frameusers.com
 *Subject:* Re: Inserting inline graphics

 ** **

 I had to do that approximately eleventh-six hundred times in writing the
 Fm11 book!

 ** **

 I set my cursor in the text, between ()'s, and hit paste. Then I used
 Alt+(down arrow) to wrangle it into position. I don't know that you'll find
 a faster solution than that...


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 I need to be able to quickly insert graphics (button icons) into
 instructions.

  

 I’ve had a brief go at this and it seems needlessly complex

 Paste graphic

 Select frame, chance to ‘anchor at insertion point’.

  

 I still end up with a button icon floating too high.

  

 What am I missing?

  

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Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-09 Thread Matt Sullivan
I had to do that approximately eleventh-six hundred times in writing the Fm11 book!I set my cursor in the text, between ()'s, and hit paste. Then I used Alt+(down arrow) to wrangle it into position. I don't know that you'll find a faster solution than that...
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Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-09 Thread Matt Sullivan
If only I knew somebody… ;)I don't know how much time the scripting would have saved though. After the effort to script it, I'd still have to id the graphic, and choose the appropriate offset.Really, in this case I never felt like it was slowing me down. By choosing from my button matrix, I only spent a few seconds getting each button placed.As with everything Adobe, there's always a few different ways to get back home!Richard mentioned Auto-Text…perhaps I'll check on that if/when I run across that scenario again.
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Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-09 Thread Stuart Rogers

On 2013-Sep-09 5:19 PM, Matt Sullivan wrote:
I had to do that approximately eleventh-six hundred times in writing 
the Fm11 book!


I set my cursor in the text, between ()'s, and hit paste. Then I used 
Alt+(down arrow) to wrangle it into position. I don't know that you'll 
find a faster solution than that...



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mailto:alastair.d...@imgtec.com wrote:


I need to be able to quickly insert graphics (button icons) into 
instructions.

I’ve had a brief go at this and it seems needlessly complex
Paste graphic
Select frame, chance to ‘anchor at insertion point’.
I still end up with a button icon floating too high.
What am I missing?




Matt,

Doesn't FM 11 allow you to create Object tags similar to Pgf tags? I 
only have FM 10, so don't know if that would be a solution.


For myself, I would create suitably sized and populated anchored frames 
in a text box on a reference page, with each frame anchored At Insertion 
Point and Distance Below Baseline set to -3pt or whatever suits the font 
size/leading. Then I'd copy/paste frames from that button library as 
required.  Note to Alistair, I do hope you are importing the graphic 
only once, by reference, and then copying/pasting that instance?  Not a 
good idea to import by copying into the document over and over.


HTH,

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Phoenix Geophysics Limited
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Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-09 Thread Scott Prentice

  
  
One could
certainly create a plugin or Frame/ExtendScript that
  would simplify that process. Before doing something "eleventh-six
  hundred times" I'd look for some type of automation. :)
  
  Sounds like an "Insert Icon" command is needed here. Run command
  (press shortcut keys), prompt for file .. Done! The anchoring type
  and offsets could all be pre set.
  
  Cheers,
  
  ...scott
  
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  Leximation, Inc.
  www.leximation.com
  
  

  On 9/9/13 2:19 PM, Matt Sullivan wrote:


  
  I had to do that approximately
  eleventh-six hundred times in writing the Fm11 book!
  
  
  I set my cursor in the text, between ()'s, and hit paste.
Then I used Alt+(down arrow) to wrangle it into position. I
don't know that you'll find a faster solution than that...

  
-Matt
  
  Matt R. Sullivan
  co-authorPublishing
  Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11
  P:714.798.7596 |C:714.585.2335 |m...@mattrsullivan.com
  
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  On Sep 9, 2013, at 8:28 AM, Alastair Dent alastair.d...@imgtec.com
wrote:
  
  

  
I need to be able
  to quickly insert graphics (button icons) into
  instructions.

Ive had a brief
  go at this and it seems needlessly complex
Paste graphic
Select frame,
  chance to anchor at insertion point.

I still end up
  with a button icon floating too high.

What am I missing?

Alastair
  Dent
Technical
Author
Imagination
Technologies Limited
t: +44
(0)113 242 9814
www.imgtec.com

  
  

  

  

  

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RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-09 Thread Combs, Richard
Alastair Dent wrote:
 
 I need to be able to quickly insert graphics (button icons) into instructions.
 
 I've had a brief go at this and it seems needlessly complex
 Paste graphic
 Select frame, chance to 'anchor at insertion point'.
 
 I still end up with a button icon floating too high.
 
 What am I missing?

The Auto-Text plug-in from Silicon Prairie Software: 

http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html 


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Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-09 Thread Matt Sullivan
Hi Stuart, I did consider the Object styles, but the difference in sizes of inline graphics seemed too much to manage. The Alt+arrow method was easy enough to apply per graphic.I did search through the maker.ini for a way to set a better default baseline, but couldn't locate one.Object styles were a HUGE help with larger graphics, though. They allowed rapid, more sophisticated formatting of the screen captures, and actually trimmed 100 pages off Sarah's previous 800 page Fm8 book. Also, the better positioning helped keep text descriptions next to the graphics instead of above/below/on the following page.I did create a table of graphics for oft-used buttons from the toolbars to help with locating and importing the buttons. Ultimately I put the parens and the graphic (with repositioned baseline) into the table, and was pretty happy with the rate at which I could reuse those chunks.
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On Sep 9, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote:
  

  
  
On 2013-Sep-09 5:19 PM, Matt Sullivan
  wrote:


  
  I had to do that approximately
  eleventh-six hundred times in writing the Fm11 book!
  
  
  I set my cursor in the text, between ()'s, and hit paste.
Then I used Alt+(down arrow) to wrangle it into position. I
don't know that you'll find a faster solution than that...

-Matt
  
  
Matt,

Doesn't FM 11 allow you to create Object tags similar to Pgf tags?
I only have FM 10, so don't know if that would be a solution.

For myself, I would create suitably sized and populated anchored
frames in a text box on a reference page, with each frame anchored
At Insertion Point and Distance Below Baseline set to -3pt or
whatever suits the font size/leading. Then I'd copy/paste frames
from that "button library" as required. Note to Alistair, I do hope
you are importing the graphic only once, by reference, and then
copying/pasting that instance? Not a good idea to import by copying
into the document over and over.

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com

  

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