Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?

2014-05-24 Thread Johan Anglemark
I have to say I'm surprised, too. This is Conversion to Structured FrameMaker 101. -j On 2014-05-23 13:18, Rick Quatro wrote: You guys like to do things the hard way! Conversion Tables are so easy to set and simple to use, especially for a simple structure like you have. I am sorry, but Smart

RE: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?

2014-05-24 Thread Craig Ede
Theresa, Rick is correct on this. The tables are not that difficult to set up and, even if not 100% accurate in the conversion, they would save a lot of handwork. However, a hour or so of cutting and pasting might be the greatest way to convince yourself of that. Craig From:

RE: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?

2014-05-24 Thread Rick Quatro
I finally spent some time helping Theresa and found out that her ultimate goal was to produce ePub and Kindle output. So, with FrameMaker 12, she didn't need to go to structure at all; she could just run her unstructured documents through the included Publish feature of Frame 12 and get what she

Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?

2014-05-23 Thread Chris Despopoulos
Open the HTML in a browser.  The idea of Smart Paste is that it knows how to take different formats of data on the clipboard and convert it to the given Maker Structure App on the fly.  Under the covers it uses an XSLT -- But It think the DITA Topic struct app comes with Smart Paste already

RE: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?

2014-05-23 Thread Rick Quatro
You guys like to do things the hard way! Conversion Tables are so easy to set and simple to use, especially for a simple structure like you have. I am sorry, but Smart Paste is not the best way to do this. Theresa, I offered to help you, but haven't heard from you. Oh well, have fun with Smart

Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?

2014-05-23 Thread Theresa de Valence
On 5/22/2014 12:10 PM, Chris Despopoulos wrote: I'd say what you're doing wrongly is saving as XML first. Save your unstructured doc as HTML, then copy/smart-paste into the body tag of a new DITA topic. I saved the file as .htm and the name of the file in Frame was still .fm, but I can see

Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?

2014-05-23 Thread Chris Despopoulos
No doubt you're right, Rick.  I'm in the If you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail mode.  I think Smart Paste is a great feature.  Also, I think you can use it with zero thought in this case...  All the gestures are menu commands already in the products.  Worse, DITA is probably

Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?

2014-05-22 Thread Theresa de Valence
On 5/21/2014 6:56 AM, Rick Quatro wrote: http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=2cad=rjauact= 8ved=0CFoQFjABurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.adobe.com%2Fen_US%2FFrameMaker%2F9.0%2 FStructuredDev%2FStructure_Dev_Reference.pdfei=Y5N8U7-aMpOvsASp8YHwBgusg=A

Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?

2014-05-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
FM12 really uses conversion tables rather than RoboHelp style mapping? On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:56 AM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote: Hi Theresa, Download this publication: http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=2cad=rjauact=

Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?

2014-05-22 Thread Theresa de Valence
On 5/21/2014 1:26 PM, Chris Despopoulos wrote: Save the chapter as HTML, copy it, then use Smart Paste to paste it into a DITA topic. Every P should translate into the correct DITA paragraph element (also a p) If I save the chapter as XML, Frame pops up a window asking for which Structured

RE: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?

2014-05-22 Thread Rick Quatro
Theresa, This is not the most effective way of structuring unstructured content. Like I said in my previous email, you need to use a Conversion Table which is outlined in Chapter 4 of the manual I referred you to. Contact me offlist and I will try to walk you through it. Thanks. Rick Quatro

Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?

2014-05-22 Thread Chris Despopoulos
I'd say what you're doing wrongly is saving as XML first.  Save your unstructured doc as HTML, then copy/smart-paste into the body tag of a new DITA topic.  This is just a quick way to get lots of structure for free.  If you're talking about a novel, you should really have nothing but p tags

RE: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?

2014-05-21 Thread Rick Quatro
Structured Framemaker Developer's Guide Google that and it should come up. -Original Message- From: Theresa de Valence [mailto:t...@bstw.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:25 AM To: Rick Quatro; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text

Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?

2014-05-21 Thread David Spreadbury
Or try this link http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/9.0/StructuredDev/Structure_Dev_Reference.pdf On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 7:30 AM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote: Structured Framemaker Developer's Guide Google that and it should come up. -Original Message- From:

Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?

2014-05-21 Thread Chris Despopoulos
Save the chapter as HTML, copy it, then use Smart Paste to paste it into a DITA topic.  Every P should translate into the correct DITA paragraph element (also a p) ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list