Re: Is there a way to paste text as default?
Thanks Fred, I stand corrected. Bodvar -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In responding about the personal copy of maker.ini Bodvar wrote (in part): 1. ~\Documents and Settings\ ~~~ da da da \maker.ini showed with today's stamp, implying that it is regenerated each time you boot. Not true. What happens is that the current session's preference items get saved each time you exit FrameMaker so that they will be used as the defaults the next time you start FrameMaker. 2. The personal maker.ini file only shows portions of the main file and seems to handle locations of folders and such. The personal maker.ini can specify a personal override value for *any* parameter that is controlled by the ini file. By default, it included things like default directories, user dictionaires, user preference items like automatic save, and default locations of dialog boxes--all the kinds of things that any user is likely to set for their own personal preference. The whole point is to allow different users of a shared computer to set up their defaults the way they like them without interfering with other users. When you start FramemMaker, the main maker.ini is read first, then the current user's maker.ini. This means that all settings in the main maker.ini are used except for the specific items that are included in the personal maker.ini. Fred Ridder Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! Learn more. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Is there a way to paste text as default?
I did not even know of the personal maker.ini, but it is there sure enough. HOWEVER, I would not recommend putting these things in there, the reason being: 1. ~\Documents and Settings\ ~~~ da da da \maker.ini showed with today's stamp, implying that it is regenerated each time you boot. 2. The personal maker.ini file only shows portions of the main file and seems to handle locations of folders and such. 3. Everyone has recommended doing the changes on the main maker.ini. QUESTION: Did you remember to restart (close and start again) FrameMaker after doing the changes? The maker.ini changes will not affect the already running FM, as this is only a file it reads at startup. HTH, Bodvar On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Inbar, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Will, I don't know how things are setup on your system, but on my system the other maker.ini is located here: C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.2 Good luck, Paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whites Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:05 AM To: Reng, Dr. Winfried Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Is there a way to paste text as default? Here's the mystery - Running 7.2 on XP, sp2. I only have the one maker.ini (the one in the Program Files folder). I did a search through the entire C drive for the second one. Nothing shows up. Of course, when I move the TEXT option to the head of the list in the Program Files file, it doesn't change how the paste function works. Any hints where my other maker.ini might be lurking?? will white On Mar 5, 2008, at 4:14 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote: Hi Marta, In the maker.ini file change the order of formats for ClipboardFormatsPriorities, so that TEXT comes first. Newer FM versions have 2 maker.ini files, one in the Program Files folder and one in your personal folder. This change in the maker.ini file works only for text which you copied in another application. If you want to paste FM text, you should use additional utilities which strip the formatting info. Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Berman, Marta Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:57 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Is there a way to paste text as default? Is there a way to set the default paste option in FrameMaker to Text (so that I don't have to use Paste Special Text) ? Thanks Marta Berman ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ whitefamily%40mac.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. +++ There's the right way and the wrong way. Then there's my way - which is like the wrong way, but faster. +++ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/paul.inbar%40intel.c om Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. - Intel Israel (74) Limited This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for
RE: Is there a way to paste text as default?
In responding about the personal copy of maker.ini Bodvar wrote (in part): 1. ~\Documents and Settings\ ~~~ da da da \maker.ini showed with today's stamp, implying that it is regenerated each time you boot. Not true. What happens is that the current session's preference items get saved each time you exit FrameMaker so that they will be used as the defaults the next time you start FrameMaker. 2. The personal maker.ini file only shows portions of the main file and seems to handle locations of folders and such. The personal maker.ini can specify a personal override value for *any* parameter that is controlled by the ini file. By default, it included things like default directories, user dictionaires, user preference items like automatic save, and default locations of dialog boxes--all the kinds of things that any user is likely to set for their own personal preference. The whole point is to allow different users of a shared computer to set up their defaults the way they like them without interfering with other users. When you start FramemMaker, the main maker.ini is read first, then the current user's maker.ini. This means that all settings in the main maker.ini are used except for the specific items that are included in the personal maker.ini. Fred Ridder _ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Is there a way to paste text as default?
FWIW...I'm running Win XP - SP2 with FM 7.2 (latest patch/update), and there's only one maker.ini where this change can be made, and it's in the Program Files folder in the path where FM 7.2 is installed. There is a maker.ini in the Documents and Settings path to my UserID application data, but it doesn't even contain the line that would need to be modified. Changing the one in the Program Files path is all it took to make the change effective on my system. Will: Please clarify: Are you saying that changing the one and only maker.ini file to have TEXT as the first option on the line ClipboardFormatsPriorities= ...has no effect? Rene - Original Message From: Whites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Reng, Dr. Winfried [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2008 1:05:07 AM Subject: Re: Is there a way to paste text as default? Here's the mystery - Running 7.2 on XP, sp2. I only have the one maker.ini (the one in the Program Files folder). I did a search through the entire C drive for the second one. Nothing shows up. Of course, when I move the TEXT option to the head of the list in the Program Files file, it doesn't change how the paste function works. Any hints where my other maker.ini might be lurking?? will white On Mar 5, 2008, at 4:14 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote: Hi Marta, In the maker.ini file change the order of formats for ClipboardFormatsPriorities, so that TEXT comes first. Newer FM versions have 2 maker.ini files, one in the Program Files folder and one in your personal folder. This change in the maker.ini file works only for text which you copied in another application. If you want to paste FM text, you should use additional utilities which strip the formatting info. Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Berman, Marta Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:57 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Is there a way to paste text as default? Is there a way to set the default paste option in FrameMaker to Text (so that I don't have to use Paste Special Text) ? Thanks Marta Berman ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ whitefamily%40mac.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. +++ There's the right way and the wrong way. Then there's my way - which is like the wrong way, but faster. +++ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Is there a way to paste text as default?
You know, it *would* be nice if the ClipboardFormatsPriorities setting at least
highlighted the new default in the Paste Special window...
Rene
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Hi Rene –
Mea culpa (or in the modern rendering, “my
bad”).
I wrongly expected that changing ClipboardFormatsPrioritiesto have TEXT as
the first option would change the ordering in the Paste Special dialog by
pushing Text to the top of the list. But what we are talking about here isNOT
Paste Special, but simple Paste. DOH!
Talk about thinking inside the box.
Now my simple Paste does indeed paste as text.
Problem solved.
Thanks for the help.
will white
ViaLogy LLC
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Sent: Thursday, March 06, 20087:33 AM
To: White William
Subject: Fwd: Is there a way topaste text as default?
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From: Rene Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: March 6, 2008 6:01:15 AM PST
To: Whites [EMAIL PROTECTED], Reng, Dr.Winfried [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Is there a way
to paste text as default?
FWIW...I'mrunning Win XP - SP2 with FM 7.2 (latest patch/update), and there's
only onemaker.ini where this change can be made, and it's in the Program Files
folderin the path where FM 7.2 is installed. There is a maker.ini in the
Documentsand Settings path to my UserID application data, but it doesn't even
containthe line that would need to be modified. Changing the one in the Program
Filespath is all it took to make the change effective on my system.
Will:
Please clarify:
Are you saying that changing the one and only maker.ini file to have TEXT asthe
first option on the line
ClipboardFormatsPriorities=
...has no effect?
Rene
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RE: Is there a way to paste text as default?
Rene Stephenson wrote: You know, it *would* be nice if the ClipboardFormatsPriorities setting at least highlighted the new default in the Paste Special window... I'm curious why you think that. Since ClipboardFormatsPriorities specifies how _Paste_ behaves, how would it be advantageous to have Paste Special default to the same behavior? Inquiring minds, etc. Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Is there a way to paste text as default?
Berman, Marta wrote: Is there a way to set the default paste option in FrameMaker to Text (so that I don't have to use Paste Special Text) ? Marta: Hovtext removes formatting from text copied to the clipboard. It works with all Windows applications, including Frame, and it's free and open-source. Get it here: http://hovtext.com/index.php/?page=documentationlang=en -Andrew ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Is there a way to paste text as default?
Hi Marta, In the maker.ini file change the order of formats for ClipboardFormatsPriorities, so that TEXT comes first. Newer FM versions have 2 maker.ini files, one in the Program Files folder and one in your personal folder. This change in the maker.ini file works only for text which you copied in another application. If you want to paste FM text, you should use additional utilities which strip the formatting info. Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Berman, Marta Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:57 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Is there a way to paste text as default? Is there a way to set the default paste option in FrameMaker to Text (so that I don't have to use Paste Special Text) ? Thanks Marta Berman ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Is there a way to paste text as default?
Here's the mystery - Running 7.2 on XP, sp2. I only have the one maker.ini (the one in the Program Files folder). I did a search through the entire C drive for the second one. Nothing shows up. Of course, when I move the TEXT option to the head of the list in the Program Files file, it doesn't change how the paste function works. Any hints where my other maker.ini might be lurking?? will white On Mar 5, 2008, at 4:14 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote: Hi Marta, In the maker.ini file change the order of formats for ClipboardFormatsPriorities, so that TEXT comes first. Newer FM versions have 2 maker.ini files, one in the Program Files folder and one in your personal folder. This change in the maker.ini file works only for text which you copied in another application. If you want to paste FM text, you should use additional utilities which strip the formatting info. Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Berman, Marta Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:57 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Is there a way to paste text as default? Is there a way to set the default paste option in FrameMaker to Text (so that I don't have to use Paste Special Text) ? Thanks Marta Berman ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ whitefamily%40mac.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. +++ There's the right way and the wrong way. Then there's my way - which is like the wrong way, but faster. +++ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Is there a way to paste text as default?
Hi Will, I don't know how things are setup on your system, but on my system the other maker.ini is located here: C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.2 Good luck, Paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whites Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:05 AM To: Reng, Dr. Winfried Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Is there a way to paste text as default? Here's the mystery - Running 7.2 on XP, sp2. I only have the one maker.ini (the one in the Program Files folder). I did a search through the entire C drive for the second one. Nothing shows up. Of course, when I move the TEXT option to the head of the list in the Program Files file, it doesn't change how the paste function works. Any hints where my other maker.ini might be lurking?? will white On Mar 5, 2008, at 4:14 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote: Hi Marta, In the maker.ini file change the order of formats for ClipboardFormatsPriorities, so that TEXT comes first. Newer FM versions have 2 maker.ini files, one in the Program Files folder and one in your personal folder. This change in the maker.ini file works only for text which you copied in another application. If you want to paste FM text, you should use additional utilities which strip the formatting info. Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Berman, Marta Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:57 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Is there a way to paste text as default? Is there a way to set the default paste option in FrameMaker to Text (so that I don't have to use Paste Special Text) ? Thanks Marta Berman ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ whitefamily%40mac.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. +++ There's the right way and the wrong way. Then there's my way - which is like the wrong way, but faster. +++ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/paul.inbar%40intel.c om Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. - Intel Israel (74) Limited This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
