RE: Maddening problem with frame below

2007-04-12 Thread Rene Stephenson
Bummer. So much for that idea. I guess I'll just keep running Paragraph Tools as part of the conversion process. We're moving toward automating the PDF creation process from our FM files, though, and I don't know if we'll be able to get it fully automated if we're having to run a plugin

RE: Maddening problem with frame below

2007-04-12 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 05:37 -0700 12/4/07, Rene Stephenson wrote: We're moving toward automating the PDF creation process from our FM files, though, and I don't know if we'll be able to get it fully automated if we're having to run a plugin between importing from the settings file to switch conditions and

RE: Maddening problem with frame below

2007-04-12 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 13:43 +0100 12/4/07, Steve Rickaby wrote: I think the original idea came from Hedley Finger, for which, thanks. Grovel: it was Hayden Jones. Thanks anyway: Hedley's a hero too ;-) -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL

RE: Maddening problem with frame below

2007-04-11 Thread Rene Stephenson
We have the same problem with 2 similar BlockLine paragraph tags that use 2 pt font w/ 6 pt space above and paragraph below pointing to a line on the reference page. Both are aligned across all columns and sideheads. Incientally, it doesn't happen with our Spacer paragraph tag, which is also 2

Re: Maddening problem with frame below

2007-04-11 Thread Peter Gold
I believe that earlier FrameMaker releases were limited to 4pt as the smallest font size. With the 2pt minimum now allowed, perhaps it's possible that the conditional text programming wasn't changed accordingly. I think earlier in this thread a larger point size was noted also to fail, so

RE: Maddening problem with frame below

2007-04-11 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 10:16 -0700 11/4/07, Rene Stephenson wrote: We have the same problem with 2 similar BlockLine paragraph tags that use 2 pt font w/ 6 pt space above and paragraph below pointing to a line on the reference page. Both are aligned across all columns and sideheads. Incientally, it doesn't happen

Re: Maddening problem with frame below

2007-04-10 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 14:10 -0400 30/3/07, Art Campbell wrote: It almost sounds like a display problem. Does it snap back into place when you do a Ctrl-L? ...and Fred wrote something similar. Well, it's just happened again, and no, it's not the screen redraw bug. The misplaced rule survived a ctrl-L, and I had

Re: Maddening problem with frame below

2007-04-10 Thread Art Campbell
Weird. There isn't a lot of white space in the container around the rule on the Ref Page, is there? No chance there's any other container there, maybe an empty/invisible one? If it looks clean, I'd try the Wash-to-MIF maneuver just to make sure that the file isn't corrupted (the original text

Re: Maddening problem with frame below

2007-04-10 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:50 -0400 10/4/07, Art Campbell wrote: There isn't a lot of white space in the container around the rule on the Ref Page, is there? No chance there's any other container there, maybe an empty/invisible one? I've just pulled it apart, and, sadly, no. 'Sadly' because it would have been a

Re: Maddening problem with frame below

2007-04-10 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Art: Is it possible that the character tag used in the bullet paragraph has a font-size attribute that varies sometimes, perhaps due to a rounding error? Similarly, have you looked at the line-space (leading) and font size of the paragraph format? Oh, and one more thing: in a narrow

Re: Maddening problem with frame below

2007-04-10 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:50 -0500 10/4/07, Mike Wickham wrote: Grasping at straws, here, but I vaguely recall a problem I had with similar reference line. After testing it, I had decided that I wanted to move the line up closer to the text it followed. So I went to the reference page to tweak it. I can't

Re: Maddening problem with frame below

2007-03-30 Thread Art Campbell
It almost sounds like a display problem. Does it snap back into place when you do a Ctrl-L? Art On 3/30/07, Steve Rickaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if anyone can help me with an inexplicable irritation. I have a para format with an under-rule graphic taken off the reference page and