RE: PDF to framemaker
The issue is that embedded graphics in Frame is found by many people to not be a useful way of working. If you have a large number of documents which are going to be updated, and their graphics will change, then using referenced files is much better (IMHO). There are actually a lot more advantages, but I have forgotten them. Part of the move from Word to FrameMaker is changing from using embedded graphics to referenced graphics. As someone mentioned, if we did not have access to the original files, using save as html on the Word files got the graphics out (it took me about a week to fix the graphics in our set of books when we made the transfer). Moving all of your documentation from Word to Frame is indeed a major project, on the other hand it is an excellent way to get to know Frame's capabilities and practice working on it. There are a number of utilities out there to help in the transfer process, including Table cleaner, which we could not have managed without, and various tools for working with tags. Caroline Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer Fax: +972 3 6474681 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.radcom.com www.protocols.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Diane Gaskill Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 9:03 PM To: Dov Isaacs; Diane Gaskill; Rick Quatro; framers@FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: PDF to framemaker Embedded graphics in Word do not come across with the text. In fact, most RTF files with graphics in them crash the filter. It simily stops. After a few seconds, it displays an error message about not being able to continue. This happens with anything except very small files (one or two pages). Yes, I realize that Word has many problems (ok, it's full of bugs) and that is one of the reasons we are switching to FM. Does Adobe have any recommendations for prepping the word file before trying to import it? When previoiusly trying to convert files, I've removed all the graphics and that helped a lot. But I assume we shouldn't have to do that if the filter worked as it is supposed to. Diane -Original Message- From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 8:33 AM To: Diane Gaskill; Rick Quatro; framers@FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: PDF to framemaker You could/should be a bit more specific about what you mean by Adobe fixing up the RTF to FM filter. If you are finding bugs, by all means officially report them! You should be aware that many of the RTF to anything else conversion issues do relate to inconsistencies between how Microsoft itself produces and/or interprets RTF in various versions and releases of Word. Even within a particular version of Word, you can see discrepancies. Many of these have to do with character encodings, especially anything other than base ASCII characters! This is especially true if you are copying text from old Word documents from times prior to that in which Unicode was supported. - Dov -Original Message- From: Diane Gaskill Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 7:29 PM Hi all, Speaking of converters, I was wondering if Adobe might ever consider fixing up the RTF to FM and FM to RTF filters that come with Frame. Especially the RTF to FM filter. It would be SO helpful to companies like mine who are about to convert their docsets, including many large manuals (up to 800 pages, believe it or not) from Word to FM. It would have made the job of convincing management a lot easier to switch to Frame if we didn't have to pay an outside vendor to do this for us. Seems like it would be a profitable thing to do, considering that more companies would be likely to by Frame if they had an easy way to get there from Word. Diane ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/caroline%40radcom.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: PDF to framemaker
Hi Caroline, Thanks for the tips. FYI, I've been using FM since 1992, so practice is not something I need. When I started with my current company and found they still used Word, I immediately wrote a proposal to switch to FM. It did not happen immediately, but it is happening now. I'm getting quotes from a couple of vendors to convert the docs but I also have to do the math on how much it will take us to do it ourselves. We probably have access to the original graphics, but if not, converting to HTML to extract the graphics is a good idea. I have several FM plugins, but not TableCleaner Pro. I forget, is that one of Bruce' Foster's apps or did Chris Despopulous write it? I'll check the website and get it if needed. Thanks, Diane -Original Message- From: Caroline Tabach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 12:56 AM To: Diane Gaskill; framers@FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: PDF to framemaker The issue is that embedded graphics in Frame is found by many people to not be a useful way of working. If you have a large number of documents which are going to be updated, and their graphics will change, then using referenced files is much better (IMHO). There are actually a lot more advantages, but I have forgotten them. Part of the move from Word to FrameMaker is changing from using embedded graphics to referenced graphics. As someone mentioned, if we did not have access to the original files, using save as html on the Word files got the graphics out (it took me about a week to fix the graphics in our set of books when we made the transfer). Moving all of your documentation from Word to Frame is indeed a major project, on the other hand it is an excellent way to get to know Frame's capabilities and practice working on it. There are a number of utilities out there to help in the transfer process, including Table cleaner, which we could not have managed without, and various tools for working with tags. Caroline Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDF to framemaker
Hi Diane On 1/16/07, Diane Gaskill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have several FM plugins, but not TableCleaner Pro. I forget, is that one of Bruce' Foster's apps or did Chris Despopulous write it? I'll check the website and get it if needed. I've never heard of TableCleaner Pro, and Google revealed nothing by that name, but I have heard of TableCleaner: http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/tablecleaner/index.htm Rick Quatro wrote it. My docs have 400-600 tables, so TableCleaner paid for itself the day I bought it. (In fact, in less than the first hour I had it.) regards, Karen Mardahl, a very satisfied TableCleaner customer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDF to framemaker
Diane Gaskill wrote: ... but not TableCleaner Pro. I forget, is that one of Bruce' Foster's apps or did Chris Despopulous write it? I'll check the website and get it if needed. Hi Diane, I'm also worked with FM since 1994. I think the most of us worked with FM over 8 to 10 years, so practice is not something we need, but we all - need tips and tricks and - want to make our knowledge available and - want to help. In that respect: The TableCleaner comes from Rick Quattro and it is the only tool (in my knowledge) for this purpose. WoK ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: PDF to framemaker
You could/should be a bit more specific about what you mean by Adobe fixing up the RTF to FM filter. If you are finding bugs, by all means officially report them! You should be aware that many of the RTF to anything else conversion issues do relate to inconsistencies between how Microsoft itself produces and/or interprets RTF in various versions and releases of Word. Even within a particular version of Word, you can see discrepancies. Many of these have to do with character encodings, especially anything other than base ASCII characters! This is especially true if you are copying text from old Word documents from times prior to that in which Unicode was supported. - Dov -Original Message- From: Diane Gaskill Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 7:29 PM Hi all, Speaking of converters, I was wondering if Adobe might ever consider fixing up the RTF to FM and FM to RTF filters that come with Frame. Especially the RTF to FM filter. It would be SO helpful to companies like mine who are about to convert their docsets, including many large manuals (up to 800 pages, believe it or not) from Word to FM. It would have made the job of convincing management a lot easier to switch to Frame if we didn't have to pay an outside vendor to do this for us. Seems like it would be a profitable thing to do, considering that more companies would be likely to by Frame if they had an easy way to get there from Word. Diane ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDF to framemaker
--- Peter Ring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dov is of course correct in stating that PDF should be considered a final form document format. But, nevertheless, PDF can be used as an input (to Frame) === Another effective way to use PDF as an input to FrameMaker is to use it to import graphs for display in FrameMaker documents. In this case, however, the graphs are first created in FrameMaker. The method is described below. Step 1. On a new FrameMaker master page, create a background frame in which you create (using FrameMaker's drawing tools) the graph's frame (i.e. the X and Y axes with labeled tickmarks (and perhaps corresponding horizontal and vertical lines), plus any additional static text. Step 2. On a body page in which the background master page from step 1 is used, employ FrameMaker's drawing tools to to overlay the background created in step 1 with the foreground graphical plots (lines, curves, wedges, etc), using different colors diferent dashed lines, etc as needed. Additional text labels might also be created in the overlay, as needed, using the drawing tools. Step 3. Save the body page created in step 2 as a 1-page PDF with an appropriate filename. Step 4. Open the PDF created in step 3 and crop it as needed to eliminate all the white space surrounding the graphic, and then re-save it as a single-page document. Step 5. At the location in a FrameMaker document where you want the graph to appear, import the PDF produced in step 4 into a graphic frame, scaling it as needed. This methodology is particularly useful when the basic graph background created in step 1 above is used multiple times to produce different graphical plots. In that case, each graph created in step 2 is saved to a separate PDF file in steps 3 and 4. And of course, the resulting PDF graphics are not restricted to use in FrameMaker. They can be used in any software product which can import PDFs. Dan Emory Associates FrameMaker/FrameMaker+SGML Document Design Database Publishing [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: PDF to framemaker
Embedded graphics in Word do not come across with the text. In fact, most RTF files with graphics in them crash the filter. It simily stops. After a few seconds, it displays an error message about not being able to continue. This happens with anything except very small files (one or two pages). Yes, I realize that Word has many problems (ok, it's full of bugs) and that is one of the reasons we are switching to FM. Does Adobe have any recommendations for prepping the word file before trying to import it? When previoiusly trying to convert files, I've removed all the graphics and that helped a lot. But I assume we shouldn't have to do that if the filter worked as it is supposed to. Diane -Original Message- From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 8:33 AM To: Diane Gaskill; Rick Quatro; framers@FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: PDF to framemaker You could/should be a bit more specific about what you mean by Adobe fixing up the RTF to FM filter. If you are finding bugs, by all means officially report them! You should be aware that many of the RTF to anything else conversion issues do relate to inconsistencies between how Microsoft itself produces and/or interprets RTF in various versions and releases of Word. Even within a particular version of Word, you can see discrepancies. Many of these have to do with character encodings, especially anything other than base ASCII characters! This is especially true if you are copying text from old Word documents from times prior to that in which Unicode was supported. - Dov -Original Message- From: Diane Gaskill Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 7:29 PM Hi all, Speaking of converters, I was wondering if Adobe might ever consider fixing up the RTF to FM and FM to RTF filters that come with Frame. Especially the RTF to FM filter. It would be SO helpful to companies like mine who are about to convert their docsets, including many large manuals (up to 800 pages, believe it or not) from Word to FM. It would have made the job of convincing management a lot easier to switch to Frame if we didn't have to pay an outside vendor to do this for us. Seems like it would be a profitable thing to do, considering that more companies would be likely to by Frame if they had an easy way to get there from Word. Diane ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: PDF to framemaker
I frequently get Word files with embedded graphics from our engineers. The best way I have found to get the content in Frame has been to save the Word file as both HTML and TXT. I then extract the graphics from the HTML graphics folder, import the TXT, and reformat according to our template. I never try to replicate the format of the Word doc. Since our engineers rarely use styles, all I ever end up with in the RTF is a bunch of overrides. Just my $0.02 worth. Berny Gagne Lead Writer Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd. Bolton, Ontario, Canada -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Diane Gaskill Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 2:03 PM To: Dov Isaacs; Diane Gaskill; Rick Quatro; framers@FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: PDF to framemaker Embedded graphics in Word do not come across with the text. In fact, most RTF files with graphics in them crash the filter. It simily stops. After a few seconds, it displays an error message about not being able to continue. This happens with anything except very small files (one or two pages). Yes, I realize that Word has many problems (ok, it's full of bugs) and that is one of the reasons we are switching to FM. Does Adobe have any recommendations for prepping the word file before trying to import it? When previoiusly trying to convert files, I've removed all the graphics and that helped a lot. But I assume we shouldn't have to do that if the filter worked as it is supposed to. Diane -Original Message- From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 8:33 AM To: Diane Gaskill; Rick Quatro; framers@FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: PDF to framemaker You could/should be a bit more specific about what you mean by Adobe fixing up the RTF to FM filter. If you are finding bugs, by all means officially report them! You should be aware that many of the RTF to anything else conversion issues do relate to inconsistencies between how Microsoft itself produces and/or interprets RTF in various versions and releases of Word. Even within a particular version of Word, you can see discrepancies. Many of these have to do with character encodings, especially anything other than base ASCII characters! This is especially true if you are copying text from old Word documents from times prior to that in which Unicode was supported. - Dov -Original Message- From: Diane Gaskill Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 7:29 PM Hi all, Speaking of converters, I was wondering if Adobe might ever consider fixing up the RTF to FM and FM to RTF filters that come with Frame. Especially the RTF to FM filter. It would be SO helpful to companies like mine who are about to convert their docsets, including many large manuals (up to 800 pages, believe it or not) from Word to FM. It would have made the job of convincing management a lot easier to switch to Frame if we didn't have to pay an outside vendor to do this for us. Seems like it would be a profitable thing to do, considering that more companies would be likely to by Frame if they had an easy way to get there from Word. Diane ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bgagne%40husky.ca Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: PDF to framemaker
(1) There are a lot of people within Adobe who don't know what Dreamweaver or Contribute are either! (2) Actually, there is NOT much demand for a PDF to FrameMaker or even a PDF to InDesign converter at least as expressed directly to Adobe. Most users of these programs understand the problems of trying to do such reverse engineering of a PDF file. PDF is a final form document format. It does not have the context of the graphical objects it represents. At best, if you produce a tagged PDF, a converter can make some guesses as to the original document structure in terms of sentences, paragraphs, and tables, but not much more. The Acrobat save-as-RTF capability as well as the third party products out there try to make good guesses as the original formatting, but that is about the best they can do. Very little context of a FrameMaker or InDesign document remains in the resultant PDF file, so any attempt to go back to those formats is somewhat doomed. If we were to supply converters back to those formats, users expectations would be set to a level that we could not deliver to. Conversions from PDF should be viewed as and only be used for emergency retrieval of content that has no other means of being retrieved. We provide an RTF converter simply because just about every text consuming program out there can open or import content in RTF and that does satisfy most of our customer's needs in terms of such emergency retrieval. - Dov -Original Message- I am sure there are a lot of people within Adobe that don't know what FrameMaker is. Rick Quatro It always puzzles me how companies make decisions. Adobe has included a function within Acrobat to convert PDF to RTF, the file format of their competitor, but not to FM which is one of their own file formats. Perhaps there is not enough demand for PDF-FM? Diane ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: PDF to framemaker
Hi all, Speaking of converters, I was wondering if Adobe might ever consider fixing up the RTF to FM and FM to RTF filters that come with Frame. Especially the RTF to FM filter. It would be SO helpful to companies like mine who are about to convert their docsets, including many large manuals (up to 800 pages, believe it or not) from Word to FM. It would have made the job of convincing management a lot easier to switch to Frame if we didn't have to pay an outside vendor to do this for us. Seems like it would be a profitable thing to do, considering that more companies would be likely to by Frame if they had an easy way to get there from Word. Diane -Original Message- From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 9:55 AM To: Rick Quatro; Diane Gaskill; framers@FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: PDF to framemaker (1) There are a lot of people within Adobe who don't know what Dreamweaver or Contribute are either! (2) Actually, there is NOT much demand for a PDF to FrameMaker or even a PDF to InDesign converter at least as expressed directly to Adobe. Most users of these programs understand the problems of trying to do such reverse engineering of a PDF file. PDF is a final form document format. It does not have the context of the graphical objects it represents. At best, if you produce a tagged PDF, a converter can make some guesses as to the original document structure in terms of sentences, paragraphs, and tables, but not much more. The Acrobat save-as-RTF capability as well as the third party products out there try to make good guesses as the original formatting, but that is about the best they can do. Very little context of a FrameMaker or InDesign document remains in the resultant PDF file, so any attempt to go back to those formats is somewhat doomed. If we were to supply converters back to those formats, users expectations would be set to a level that we could not deliver to. Conversions from PDF should be viewed as and only be used for emergency retrieval of content that has no other means of being retrieved. We provide an RTF converter simply because just about every text consuming program out there can open or import content in RTF and that does satisfy most of our customer's needs in terms of such emergency retrieval. - Dov -Original Message- I am sure there are a lot of people within Adobe that don't know what FrameMaker is. Rick Quatro It always puzzles me how companies make decisions. Adobe has included a function within Acrobat to convert PDF to RTF, the file format of their competitor, but not to FM which is one of their own file formats. Perhaps there is not enough demand for PDF-FM? Diane ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: PDF to framemaker
It always puzzles me how companies make decisions. Adobe has included a function within Acrobat to convert PDF to RTF, the file format of their competitor, but not to FM which is one of their own file formats. Perhaps there is not enough demand for PDF-FM? Diane snip True... although Recosoft has recently released a product to convert PDF into an editable *InDesign* document, so I guess they must have thought there was a commercial need. http://www.recosoft.com/company/press/news01092007.htm Same company does lots of other PDF-somethingelse converters, but sadly not for FrameMaker... unsurprisingly. However, you might be able to use one of their converters as a stepping stone, but I don't know whether it would give any advantage over a save to RTF from Acrobat. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDF to framemaker
I am sure there are a lot of people within Adobe that don't know what FrameMaker is. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com It always puzzles me how companies make decisions. Adobe has included a function within Acrobat to convert PDF to RTF, the file format of their competitor, but not to FM which is one of their own file formats. Perhaps there is not enough demand for PDF-FM? Diane ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDF to framemaker
Hi, Steve. Steve Rickaby wrote: Same company does lots of other PDF-somethingelse converters, but sadly not for FrameMaker... unsurprisingly. However, you might be able to use one of their converters as a stepping stone, but I don't know whether it would give any advantage over a save to RTF from Acrobat. One advantage ... some of the better ones (like the one I mentioned from Nuance called PDF Convertor Pro) do a pretty decent job of converting and recognizing tables and bulleted lists in the PDF and putting these directly into the resulting Word document. This makes the job a bit easier when reading the RTF output from Word (into the final FrameMaker destination). Not perfect, but workable. Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDF to framemaker
PDF is mostly a one-way street. It's an end product. The text in a PDF is set line by line and page by page. Any method of converting PDF back to formatted text and graphics is going to involve a good deal of work and judgment. PDFs are complex enough and generated from enough different source applications that I can't imagine a tool that could do this for you with any degree of reliability. Kenneth Benson Pegasus Type, Inc. www.pegtype.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDF to framemaker
Kenneth C. Benson wrote: PDF is mostly a one-way street. It's an end product. The text in a PDF is set line by line and page by page. Any method of converting PDF back to formatted text and graphics is going to involve a good deal of work and judgment. PDFs are complex enough and generated from enough different source applications that I can't imagine a tool that could do this for you with any degree of reliability. What I use, when forced to, is convert the PDF back to MS Word (using PDF Converter Professional from Nuance) and then output it in RTF and back into FrameMaker. This is not perfect, since it needs cleanup after the final import into FrameMaker, but it does the trick on the rare occasions when the need arises. With surprisingly clean results, and much less time than re-entering all the typing again. But, I would not want to automate this process - the results would be terrible without the final edits in FrameMaker after the RTF is brought in. In other words, it is not something that allows me to go back and forth on a daily basis! Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDF to FrameMaker?
In Acrobat, Save As .RTF. Depending on your version, you may or may not have to export the graphics manually. Open in FM. Your mileage will vary greatly depending on what you expect as far as formatting, cross-refs and so on. But the gist of the info will be there. Art On 3/20/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi - FrameMaker 7, Windows 2000 Professional. Does anyone know of a way to convert a PDF to FrameMaker? I'm not talking about placing the PDF as a graphic image but actually converting it to live text and graphics. The only thing I can think of is cut-and-paste text and save out the graphics. Thanks in advance. Pat -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDF to FrameMaker?
Thanks, Art. Pat -- Original message -- From: Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] In Acrobat, Save As .RTF. Depending on your version, you may or may not have to export the graphics manually. Open in FM. Your mileage will vary greatly depending on what you expect as far as formatting, cross-refs and so on. But the gist of the info will be there. Art On 3/20/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi - FrameMaker 7, Windows 2000 Professional. Does anyone know of a way to convert a PDF to FrameMaker? I'm not talking about placing the PDF as a graphic image but actually converting it to live text and graphics. The only thing I can think of is cut-and-paste text and save out the graphics. Thanks in advance. Pat -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDF to FrameMaker?
I go from PDF to Word using Scansoft (now called Nuance) PDF Converter Professional and then this can be output as an RTF for FrameMaker to read. Relatively inexpensive solution! Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi - FrameMaker 7, Windows 2000 Professional. Does anyone know of a way to convert a PDF to FrameMaker? I'm not talking about placing the PDF as a graphic image but actually converting it to live text and graphics. The only thing I can think of is cut-and-paste text and save out the graphics. Thanks in advance. Pat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: PDF to FrameMaker?
In addition to Scansoft, I also use ABBY PDF Transformer. Betty -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 3:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: PDF to FrameMaker? I go from PDF to Word using Scansoft (now called Nuance) PDF Converter Professional and then this can be output as an RTF for FrameMaker to read. Relatively inexpensive solution! Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi - FrameMaker 7, Windows 2000 Professional. Does anyone know of a way to convert a PDF to FrameMaker? I'm not talking about placing the PDF as a graphic image but actually converting it to live text and graphics. The only thing I can think of is cut-and-paste text and save out the graphics. Thanks in advance. Pat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/blabine%40narus.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
