Re: Print Book-PDF Setup Drops Bookmarks
I have noticed the same problem with the Para Designer getting stuck. However, I have found that I do not need to restart FM. I just close the Para Designer (delete its tab from the pod), and then re-open it. Still a pain, but not as much of one. It would be nice to get the bug fixed, though. -- John -- From: Corcoran, Susan susan.corco...@honeywell.com Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 2:00 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Print Book-PDF Setup Drops Bookmarks Hey Fellow Framers, I was just teaching some folks how to use FM 9 (on Win XP) when we ran into some interesting problems. The first is one I've mentioned before in this forum, although now I can re-create it. It has to do with the Paragraph Designer getting stuck. You can click on the icons to set the Default Font, Pagination or, but the Para Designer pod remains on the Basic view and will not switch or accept any actions. The only fix is to restart FM. I found that this occurs when you are creating a new paragraph tag and set a tab using the ruler at the top of the doc. When you click Apply or Update All, the designer becomes catatonic and you have to restart. Sometimes this occurs when you put in a tab, then take it out, but seems related to using the ruler to do so. So my recommendation is to set your tabs numerically using the Basic tab in the Para Designer until this bug is fixed. The second problem I saw occurred when printing a book. I can use PDF Setup to set my bookmarks, but I cannot save them. I click the Set button, then make my print. The next time I open the Print Book panel, my bookmark settings are gone and they're back to their defaults. So every time I make a print, I have to set my pdf bookmarks. Sigh. Has anyone else seen these glitches? Susan Corcoran ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as webli...@newman6.net. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/weblists%40newman6.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Print Book-PDF Setup Drops Bookmarks
Hi Richard, I tested this method and you're right. Setting the PDF Bookmarks using Format Document PDF Setup saves the bookmark settings for a book in FM9. I was just used to doing it using the PDF Setup button in the Print window during my first print, then saving the book with those parameters. I still think this is a bug, but at least now I have a workaround. Thanks! Susan Corcoran -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 3:43 PM To: Corcoran, Susan; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Print Book-PDF Setup Drops Bookmarks Corcoran, Susan wrote: The second problem I saw occurred when printing a book. I can use PDF Setup to set my bookmarks, but I cannot save them. I click the Set button, then make my print. The next time I open the Print Book panel, my bookmark settings are gone and they're back to their defaults. So every time I make a print, I have to set my pdf bookmarks. Sigh. So this is the behavior when you select File Print Book and then click PDF Setup? Try setting up bookmarks via (from the book window) Format Document PDF Setup. I think they may have decoupled the two methods of reaching PDF Setup. That would be a departure from previous versions, but one could argue that it makes sense to treat setup changes made at the moment of printing as ad hoc. If I'm right, then the setup changes made via Format Document should stick (and should be what the setup defaults to when you subsequently go the File Print Book PDF Setup route. I don't have FM 9, so I can't test this myself. Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Print Book-PDF Setup Drops Bookmarks
Smart, Richard! I hadn't investigated this before, but have now verified that your hypothesis works correctly in my installation of FM 9 (it's not TCS, just FM 9). PDF setup changes made in the Print Book dialog are not sticky, but those made from Format Document do seem to stick and are reflected in the Print Book dialog way of accessing the PDF setup. I guess it makes sense now that I understand it, so that I could make a one-time change through the Print dialog, or a lasting change through Format Document. Just my testing skills to add to the theory, Callie Message: 5 Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 13:43:19 -0600 From: Combs, Richard richard.co...@polycom.com Subject: RE: Print Book-PDF Setup Drops Bookmarks To: Corcoran, Susan susan.corco...@honeywell.com, framers@lists.frameusers.com Message-ID: 2d6eb362bfb0cc4a95cc3fc0c2f19f867fb...@wstexch03.westminster.polycom.co m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Corcoran, Susan wrote: The second problem I saw occurred when printing a book. I can use PDF Setup to set my bookmarks, but I cannot save them. I click the Set button, then make my print. The next time I open the Print Book panel, my bookmark settings are gone and they're back to their defaults. So every time I make a print, I have to set my pdf bookmarks. Sigh. So this is the behavior when you select File Print Book and then click PDF Setup? Try setting up bookmarks via (from the book window) Format Document PDF Setup. I think they may have decoupled the two methods of reaching PDF Setup. That would be a departure from previous versions, but one could argue that it makes sense to treat setup changes made at the moment of printing as ad hoc. If I'm right, then the setup changes made via Format Document should stick (and should be what the setup defaults to when you subsequently go the File Print Book PDF Setup route. I don't have FM 9, so I can't test this myself. Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Print Book-PDF Setup Drops Bookmarks
And on a somewhat off-topic matter, I wish Adobe would put all the para tags on the Bookmarks tab in the Don't Include column, rather than forcing us to move them over one by one. Nadine --- On Mon, 6/8/09, Callie Bertsche c.berts...@tecplot.com wrote: From: Callie Bertsche c.berts...@tecplot.com Subject: RE: Print Book-PDF Setup Drops Bookmarks To: framers@lists.frameusers.com, richard.co...@polycom.com, susan.corco...@honeywell.com Received: Monday, June 8, 2009, 1:22 PM Smart, Richard! I hadn't investigated this before, but have now verified that your hypothesis works correctly in my installation of FM 9 (it's not TCS, just FM 9). PDF setup changes made in the Print Book dialog are not sticky, but those made from Format Document do seem to stick and are reflected in the Print Book dialog way of accessing the PDF setup. I guess it makes sense now that I understand it, so that I could make a one-time change through the Print dialog, or a lasting change through Format Document. Just my testing skills to add to the theory, Callie Message: 5 Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 13:43:19 -0600 From: Combs, Richard richard.co...@polycom.com Subject: RE: Print Book-PDF Setup Drops Bookmarks To: Corcoran, Susan susan.corco...@honeywell.com, framers@lists.frameusers.com Message-ID: 2d6eb362bfb0cc4a95cc3fc0c2f19f867fb...@wstexch03.westminster.polycom.co m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Corcoran, Susan wrote: The second problem I saw occurred when printing a book. I can use PDF Setup to set my bookmarks, but I cannot save them. I click the Set button, then make my print. The next time I open the Print Book panel, my bookmark settings are gone and they're back to their defaults. So every time I make a print, I have to set my pdf bookmarks. Sigh. So this is the behavior when you select File Print Book and then click PDF Setup? Try setting up bookmarks via (from the book window) Format Document PDF Setup. I think they may have decoupled the two methods of reaching PDF Setup. That would be a departure from previous versions, but one could argue that it makes sense to treat setup changes made at the moment of printing as ad hoc. If I'm right, then the setup changes made via Format Document should stick (and should be what the setup defaults to when you subsequently go the File Print Book PDF Setup route. I don't have FM 9, so I can't test this myself. Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Print Book-PDF Setup Drops Bookmarks
Nadine, I completely agree with your suggestion. Might I suggest you visit the Adobe Wish List (as I have) to have this sent to the FM product manager, and the TCS group manager. Here's what I posted: When producing PDF, change the default value for para tags (and elements) to Do Not Include instead of Include This allows us to choose the 4 tags we need, instead of deselecting the dozen(s) of tags we don't need. Here's the link... http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform I've looked 'em in the eye (literally) and they've told me this link is BY FAR the best way to get your suggestion logged and considered for bug fixes and new features. After that, it's just a numbers game, so twitter, facebook, linkedin, frameers, tcs2, hatt to your hearts' content to get your pal's to vote for these fixes. (at the link above!) If you ever need the link again, it's also on the Resources page (on the FrameMaker course page) at roundpeg.com -Matt Matt Sullivan GRAFIX Training m...@roundpeg.com www.roundpeg.com Office 714 960-6840 Cell text 714 585-2335 SMS message 7145852...@vtext.com skype: mattatroundpeg LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/grafixtraining facebook| plaxo Click to tell me the social media sites you belong to -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 10:34 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; richard.co...@polycom.com; susan.corco...@honeywell.com; Callie Bertsche Subject: RE: Print Book-PDF Setup Drops Bookmarks And on a somewhat off-topic matter, I wish Adobe would put all the para tags on the Bookmarks tab in the Don't Include column, rather than forcing us to move them over one by one. Nadine --- On Mon, 6/8/09, Callie Bertsche c.berts...@tecplot.com wrote: From: Callie Bertsche c.berts...@tecplot.com Subject: RE: Print Book-PDF Setup Drops Bookmarks To: framers@lists.frameusers.com, richard.co...@polycom.com, susan.corco...@honeywell.com Received: Monday, June 8, 2009, 1:22 PM Smart, Richard! I hadn't investigated this before, but have now verified that your hypothesis works correctly in my installation of FM 9 (it's not TCS, just FM 9). PDF setup changes made in the Print Book dialog are not sticky, but those made from Format Document do seem to stick and are reflected in the Print Book dialog way of accessing the PDF setup. I guess it makes sense now that I understand it, so that I could make a one-time change through the Print dialog, or a lasting change through Format Document. Just my testing skills to add to the theory, Callie Message: 5 Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 13:43:19 -0600 From: Combs, Richard richard.co...@polycom.com Subject: RE: Print Book-PDF Setup Drops Bookmarks To: Corcoran, Susan susan.corco...@honeywell.com, framers@lists.frameusers.com Message-ID: 2d6eb362bfb0cc4a95cc3fc0c2f19f867fb...@wstexch03.westminster.polycom. co m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Corcoran, Susan wrote: The second problem I saw occurred when printing a book. I can use PDF Setup to set my bookmarks, but I cannot save them. I click the Set button, then make my print. The next time I open the Print Book panel, my bookmark settings are gone and they're back to their defaults. So every time I make a print, I have to set my pdf bookmarks. Sigh. So this is the behavior when you select File Print Book and then click PDF Setup? Try setting up bookmarks via (from the book window) Format Document PDF Setup. I think they may have decoupled the two methods of reaching PDF Setup. That would be a departure from previous versions, but one could argue that it makes sense to treat setup changes made at the moment of printing as ad hoc. If I'm right, then the setup changes made via Format Document should stick (and should be what the setup defaults to when you subsequently go the File Print Book PDF Setup route. I don't have FM 9, so I can't test this myself. Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo .ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as m...@grafixtraining.com. Send list
RE: Print Book-PDF Setup Drops Bookmarks
If you press the Shift key and click the arrow button, it will move all of the tags to the other field at once. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-659-8267 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Print Book-PDF Setup Drops Bookmarks
=D I ditto Roger's sentiment. Nadine --- On Mon, 6/8/09, Shuttleworth, Roger roger_shuttlewo...@tvworks.com wrote: From: Shuttleworth, Roger roger_shuttlewo...@tvworks.com Subject: RE: Print Book-PDF Setup Drops Bookmarks To: Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com, Matt Sullivan m...@grafixtraining.com, framers@lists.frameusers.com Received: Monday, June 8, 2009, 2:24 PM Aargh! That works in FM7.x too! Aargh!! AARGH!!! (I feel better now. All those clicks over the years...) Roger Shuttleworth London, Canada -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro Sent: June 8, 2009 2:21 PM To: 'Matt Sullivan'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Print Book-PDF Setup Drops Bookmarks If you press the Shift key and click the arrow button, it will move all of the tags to the other field at once. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-659-8267 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as roger_shuttlewo...@tvworks.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/roger_shuttleworth%40tvworks.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Print Book-PDF Setup Drops Bookmarks
Corcoran, Susan wrote: The second problem I saw occurred when printing a book. I can use PDF Setup to set my bookmarks, but I cannot save them. I click the Set button, then make my print. The next time I open the Print Book panel, my bookmark settings are gone and they're back to their defaults. So every time I make a print, I have to set my pdf bookmarks. Sigh. So this is the behavior when you select File Print Book and then click PDF Setup? Try setting up bookmarks via (from the book window) Format Document PDF Setup. I think they may have decoupled the two methods of reaching PDF Setup. That would be a departure from previous versions, but one could argue that it makes sense to treat setup changes made at the moment of printing as ad hoc. If I'm right, then the setup changes made via Format Document should stick (and should be what the setup defaults to when you subsequently go the File Print Book PDF Setup route. I don't have FM 9, so I can't test this myself. Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
