RE: Printing Color Images

2013-09-11 Thread Alastair Dent
So you are embedding a pdf in the frame document?

When you output your pdfs, what are the colour settings in pdfmaker?

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Subject: Printing Color Images

This seems like it should be simple and done routinely by many others.

I have an image of a flammable substance label.  It has a pantone red, a 
pantone yellow, and black. I want to use the image in a Framemaker document 
that will be sent for commercial printing using Spot Color not process 
printing.  How can I accomplish this?

The image is an Illustrator file. I save the file to PDF, load it into Frame 
10, save the Frame file as PDF, open in acrobat pro and use Advanced  Print 
Production  Output Preview to see that the image is a mix of CMYK not my spot 
pantone colors.

I also suspect that the image saved from Illustrator as a PDF format should 
display the spot colors but it does not. So the problem/solution might start 
there.

Ed Nodland
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Re: Printing Color Images

2013-09-11 Thread Heiko Haida
 

Hi Ed, 

probably your colors are set to automatically separate to
CMYK in Illustrator: 

If you use a pantone library, all colors here are
by default defined as CMYK-separating colors, although a pantone value
is displayed in the color window... 

= Set the two colors to
spotcolor in the color options (swatch options). A small dot will then
be visible in each color (in the swatches palette for the document).


After this, when producing a PDF, set the output option to no color
conversion. 

The pantone colors will then have their own plates in the
pdf as spot colors. 

Pls see also: 

--
http://karafintechteam.weebly.com/uploads/7/8/5/3/7853240/spot_color_and_adobe_illustrator.pdf


Best regards 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Ed Nodland: 

 This seems
like it should be simple and done routinely by many others. 
 
 I have
an image of a flammable substance label. It has a pantone red, a pantone
yellow, and black. I want to use the image in a Framemaker document that
will be sent for commercial printing using Spot Color not process
printing. How can I accomplish this? 
 
 The image is an Illustrator
file. I save the file to PDF, load it into Frame 10, save the Frame file
as PDF, open in acrobat pro and use Advanced  Print Production  Output
Preview to see that the image is a mix of CMYK not my spot pantone
colors. 
 
 I also suspect that the image saved from Illustrator as a
PDF format should display the spot colors but it does not. So the
problem/solution might start there. 
 
 Ed Nodland
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Re: Printing Color Images

2013-09-11 Thread Ed Nodland
OK, Save As PDF was the trick.  Thanks.  Now most of the images work fine.
 The rest require a conversion of process to spot color changes in
Illustrator.


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Ed Nodland enodl...@gmail.com wrote:

 This seems like it should be simple and done routinely by many others.

 I have an image of a flammable substance label.  It has a pantone red, a
 pantone yellow, and black. I want to use the image in a Framemaker document
 that will be sent for commercial printing using Spot Color not process
 printing.  How can I accomplish this?

 The image is an Illustrator file. I save the file to PDF, load it into
 Frame 10, save the Frame file as PDF, open in acrobat pro and use Advanced
  Print Production  Output Preview to see that the image is a mix of CMYK
 not my spot pantone colors.

 I also suspect that the image saved from Illustrator as a PDF format
 should display the spot colors but it does not. So the problem/solution
 might start there.

 Ed Nodland

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Re: Printing Color Images

2013-09-11 Thread Ed Nodland
Thanks,  With the help and clues from several sources I now understand the
color printing issue, including the Save as PDF In Frame and setting spot
colors in Illustrator.

Ed



On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Heiko Haida i...@heiko-haida.de wrote:

 **

 Hi Ed,

 probably your colors are set to automatically separate to CMYK in
 Illustrator:

 If you use a pantone library, all colors here are by default defined as
 CMYK-separating colors, although a pantone value is displayed in the color
 window...

 = Set the two colors to spotcolor in the color options (swatch
 options). A small dot will then be visible in each color (in the swatches
 palette for the document).

 After this, when producing a PDF, set the output option to no color
 conversion.

 The pantone colors will then have their own plates in the pdf as spot
 colors.

 Pls see also:

 --
 http://karafintechteam.weebly.com/uploads/7/8/5/3/7853240/spot_color_and_adobe_illustrator.pdf

 Best regards

 Tino H. Haida, Berlin





 Ed Nodland:

 This seems like it should be simple and done routinely by many others.

 I have an image of a flammable substance label.  It has a pantone red, a
 pantone yellow, and black. I want to use the image in a Framemaker document
 that will be sent for commercial printing using Spot Color not process
 printing.  How can I accomplish this?

 The image is an Illustrator file. I save the file to PDF, load it into
 Frame 10, save the Frame file as PDF, open in acrobat pro and use Advanced
  Print Production  Output Preview to see that the image is a mix of CMYK
 not my spot pantone colors.

 I also suspect that the image saved from Illustrator as a PDF format
 should display the spot colors but it does not. So the problem/solution
 might start there.

 Ed Nodland


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