Re: Rucksprung durch Technik: reverse hyperjump key?
On 14 Dec 2012 at 9:45, rebecca officer wrote: For old versions like v7, Shlomo's ToolbarPlusExpress adds a back button to the toolbar, among many, many useful buttons. http://www.microtype.com/resources.html This plugin is one of the things I miss the most since we upgraded! It's only $25/licence too. Schlomo Perets' enhancements are available up to FM 10 (see http://store.kagi.com/cgi- bin/store.cgi?storeID=6FBWE_LIVE) You may also have a look onto my website: http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker66.html Please note the line See also Version for FM 7.2/8.0, FM 9.0, FM-10 If you just need this single function GoBack aka Previous view, the Escape sequence can be remembered quite easily: ESC, v, P (or for the German FM: ESC, v, v). Klaus Daube ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: www.daube.ch ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Rucksprung durch Technik: reverse hyperjump key?
For old versions like v7, Shlomo's ToolbarPlusExpress adds a back button to the toolbar, among many, many useful buttons. http://www.microtype.com/resources.html This plugin is one of the things I miss the most since we upgraded! It's only $25/licence too. Cheers Rebecca Steve Rickaby srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk 14/12/12 06:02 At 16:09 +0100 13/12/12, Yves Barbion wrote: Try the following: 1.Hold down CTRL+ALT and click a cross-reference to jump to the target, which is in a different file in the book. 2.Hold down CTRL and press the TAB key to jump back to the source of the cross-reference. Does this work? On my ancient (v 7) version, sadly, no. I maybe should have mentioned, the link destinations are in a table. The CNTRL+TAB does do something - it advances to the cell below. In open text, it does nothing. (I'm on Mac). -- Steve [Trim e-mails: use less disk, use less power, use less planet] ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rebecca.officer%40alliedtelesis.co.nz Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Rucksprung durch Technik: reverse hyperjump key?
FrameMaker doesn't, no, but the JumpBack plugin from Electropubs gives you the capability: http://www.electropubs.com/ez_jumpback.html On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Steve Rickaby srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote: With apologies to Audi, who have just charged me a lot of money. Can someone remind me whether there is a shortcut keystroke, or any way, of traversing a hyperlink in the reverse direction? For example, in Mac FrameMaker, I can use controlalt-click to jump a cross-reference link, but is there a way of jumping back? I did check [my] archives, and found escvP, but it doesn't seem to work across files in the same book. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Rucksprung durch Technik: reverse hyperjump key?
Hi Steve Try the following: 1. Hold down CTRL+ALT and click a cross-reference to jump to the target, which is in a different file in the book. 2. Hold down CTRL and press the TAB key to jump back to the source of the cross-reference. Does this work? Cheers -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Rucksprung durch Technik: reverse hyperjump key?
I like Yves' novel solution! To clarify, the Ctrl-Tab doesn't actually take you back to the source of the cross-reference, but is the key which switches between open documents. (similar to Alt-Tab in Windows) When you activate a hyperlink in FM, the last document you were in happens to have the hyperlink, so you're closer to the link than you were. I have noticed lately that I get placed on the first page of my document. Usually I can use a cursor key (or the Go To command) to quickly navigate to my insertion point. -Matt Matt Sullivan technical communication | online training | eLearning twitter: @mattrsullivan phone: 714 960-6840 On Dec 13, 2012, at 7:09 AM, Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Steve Try the following: Hold down CTRL+ALT and click a cross-reference to jump to the target, which is in a different file in the book. Hold down CTRL and press the TAB key to jump back to the source of the cross-reference. Does this work? Cheers -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Rucksprung durch Technik: reverse hyperjump key?
Thank you Matt. To quote Leonardo Da Vinci: Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. ;-) Indeed, CTRL+TAB is the way to switch between documents in FrameMaker. When I do this right after I clicked a hyperlinked cross-reference, I see that the cross-reference is even still selected, which is nice. Cheers -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Rucksprung durch Technik: reverse hyperjump key?
Steve, We used to set up a giant BACK hyperlink along the left or right margin of the master pages of our documents. This would allow us a BACK function from anywhere we click on a hyperlink. Just set up a background text frame with hyperlink on the master page. cntrl-alt-click will then work from the body pages. Best Regards, Brad On Dec 13, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Steve Rickaby srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote: With apologies to Audi, who have just charged me a lot of money. Can someone remind me whether there is a shortcut keystroke, or any way, of traversing a hyperlink in the reverse direction? For example, in Mac FrameMaker, I can use controlalt-click to jump a cross-reference link, but is there a way of jumping back? I did check [my] archives, and found escvP, but it doesn't seem to work across files in the same book. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Rucksprung durch Technik: reverse hyperjump key?
Hmm.. Does not work for me... Am I missing something? What if multiple files are open? That's another basic feature that Adobe haven't thought about, unfortunately. Kind regards, Roman From: Matt Sullivan m...@mattrsullivan.com To: Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.com Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 5:33 PM Subject: Re: Rucksprung durch Technik: reverse hyperjump key? I like Yves' novel solution! To clarify, the Ctrl-Tab doesn't actually take you back to the source of the cross-reference, but is the key which switches between open documents. (similar to Alt-Tab in Windows) When you activate a hyperlink in FM, the last document you were in happens to have the hyperlink, so you're closer to the link than you were. I have noticed lately that I get placed on the first page of my document. Usually I can use a cursor key (or the Go To command) to quickly navigate to my insertion point. -Matt Matt Sullivan technical communication | online training | eLearning twitter: @mattrsullivan phone: 714 960-6840 On Dec 13, 2012, at 7:09 AM, Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Steve Try the following: 1. Hold down CTRL+ALT and click a cross-reference to jump to the target, which is in a different file in the book. 2. Hold down CTRL and press the TAB key to jump back to the source of the cross-reference. Does this work? Cheers -- Yves Barbion http://www.scripto.nu/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as banks_ro...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/banks_roman%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Rucksprung durch Technik: reverse hyperjump key?
Interesting... It used to be Ctrl-F6 to switch between documents. Indeed, in FM11 it still is. Ctrl-Tab is a nice alternative. Ctrl-F6 always struck me as being the ultimate in unfriendly keyboard shortcuts. Guaranteed to need the use of two hands because Ctrl and F6 are pretty much as far apart on the keyboard as you can get. Roger On 13/12/2012 11:11 AM, Yves Barbion wrote: Thank you Matt. To quote Leonardo Da Vinci: Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. ;-) Indeed, CTRL+TAB is the way to switch between documents in FrameMaker. When I do this right after I clicked a hyperlinked cross-reference, I see that the cross-reference is even still selected, which is nice. Cheers -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu http://www.scripto.nu ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shutti...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shuttie27%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Rucksprung durch Technik: reverse hyperjump key?
At 16:09 +0100 13/12/12, Yves Barbion wrote: Try the following: 1. Hold down CTRL+ALT and click a cross-reference to jump to the target, which is in a different file in the book. 2. Hold down CTRL and press the TAB key to jump back to the source of the cross-reference. Does this work? On my ancient (v 7) version, sadly, no. I maybe should have mentioned, the link destinations are in a table. The CNTRL+TAB does do something - it advances to the cell below. In open text, it does nothing. (I'm on Mac). -- Steve [Trim e-mails: use less disk, use less power, use less planet] ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Rucksprung durch Technik: reverse hyperjump key?
If you press ESC, v, P it takes you back to the source location as long as the source and destination are in the same file. If source and destination are in different files you just go back to the source doc and you should be in the same place, as long as the file didn't close. Does anyone know why sometimes when you click on a cross-file cross-reference the source file closes and sometimes it does not close? I edited the *cmds.cfg* file to add an easier shortcut, ESC, b, b Mine is located at: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\FrameMaker9\fminit\configui\cmds.cfg It's not so hard to edit. You might want to give it a try. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Rucksprung durch Technik: reverse hyperjump key?
Steve Rickaby wrote: At 16:09 +0100 13/12/12, Yves Barbion wrote: Try the following: 1. Hold down CTRL+ALT and click a cross-reference to jump to the target, which is in a different file in the book. 2. Hold down CTRL and press the TAB key to jump back to the source of the cross-reference. Does this work? On my ancient (v 7) version, sadly, no. I maybe should have mentioned, the link destinations are in a table. The CNTRL+TAB does do something - it advances to the cell below. In open text, it does nothing. In v7.2 on Windows, Ctrl+Tab cycles through the open documents in the order last visited (the functional equivalent within FM of using Alt+Tab to cycle through the open applications). Thus after you use a hyperlink to jump from one open doc to another, Ctrl+Tab takes you back to the doc you came from (and of course, you're still at the same insertion point location). Of course, if only one document is open it does nothing. (I'm on Mac). That may make a difference -- I don't know. I haven't used a Mac since the old one-piece versions. :-} Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Rucksprung durch Technik: reverse hyperjump key?
I don't understand how a hyperlink on a master page could know where back would be at any given moment. On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Brad Anderson b...@frameusers.com wrote: Steve, We used to set up a giant BACK hyperlink along the left or right margin of the master pages of our documents. This would allow us a BACK function from anywhere we click on a hyperlink. Just set up a background text frame with hyperlink on the master page. cntrl-alt-click will then work from the body pages. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Rucksprung durch Technik: reverse hyperjump key?
At 09:45 +1300 14/12/12, rebecca officer wrote: For old versions like v7, Shlomo's ToolbarPlusExpress adds a back button to the toolbar, among many, many useful buttons. http://www.microtype.com/resources.htmlhttp://www.microtype.com/resources.html But sadly (and inevitably) not for Mac. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
