Re: Those old book numbering blues
Hi Steve, There is an excellent document on autonumbering at the FrameUsers.com. You will find it under the Website Subsections Downloads. Happy rest of Christmas (in Iceland we have 13 days of Christmas!). Bodvar --- On how the feast of the rebirth of the Sun became Christsmas, see: http://klingenberg.blogspot.com On 12/19/05, Steve Rickaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 9:17 am +1100 19/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With this scheme, you don't need numbering flows, e.g. Chaps Whatever Sects Figs Tables Eqns Steps Substeps Chapter\ $chapnum =0 =0 =0=0 =0 =0 See the section Using counters in autonumber formats in the Text formatting chapter of the User Guide. Yup, I'm now well-educated on complex numbering formats. In fact, I used to know all this from pre version 5 days (honest), but I'd archived the knowledge since the advent of simpler schemes based on $chapnum and named threads. I rarely use multi-level numbering. Thanks to your and Roger Shuttleworth's help, I am now well re-educated and have numbering working exactly as I want. Roger was particularly patient with me as I floundered my way through sorting the problems out, even to the point of telling him firmly that it did not work when it did. This subject needs better explanation than it gets in the user guide. One thing that is specifically counter-intuitive and needs to be spelled out very firmly is that fact that separate numbering fields within a thread do not necessarily map to separate level counters in a multi-level numbering scheme, which is what one might intuitively expect. My thanks to all. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Those old book numbering blues
Steve: Then set your chapter title numbering as follows: Chapter\ $chapnum =0 =0 =0 =0 =0 The placeholder after $chapnum is the one you want to continue through the book. The =0 resetters are for the numbering you want to restart for each chapter, e.g. figure, table, equation numbering, etc. Is this what you want? I'm not sure. How would this reset named numbering threads, such as 'T:$chapnum.n+.'? With this scheme, you don't need numbering flows, e.g. Chaps Whatever Sects Figs Tables Eqns Steps Substeps Chapter\ $chapnum =0 =0 =0=0 =0 =0 See the section Using counters in autonumber formats in the Text formatting chapter of the User Guide. Regards, Hedley -- Hedley Finger Technical Communications Tools Processes Specialist MYOB Australia http://myob.com/au P.O. box 371 Blackburn VIC 3130 Australia 12 Wesley Court Tally Ho Business Park East Burwood VIC 3151 Australia mailto:hedleyDOTfingerATmyobDOTcom Tel. +61 3 9222 9992 x 7421, Mob. (cell) +61 412 461 558 © MYOB Technology Pty Ltd 2005 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Those old book numbering blues
I said... I am using one autonumber thread to control stuff that needs to flow through a book. I just wanted to check that in this case, i.e. paragraph number threads not reset between chapters, there is no alternative to creating a separate n=0 paragraph clone for all the numbered paragraphs. Anyone know any good tricks? FrameScript is not an option for this job, but the final template will be structured. but I don't think I was being clear enough, so here goes again... I have a series of numbering threads that run through a book, for figures, tables and so on, of the form 'thread id:$chapnum.n+' - a fairly normal situation. These need to restart for each chapter, to give 4.1, 4.2 etc or whatever. However, I have one numbering thread that I do *not* want to reset for each chapter. As far as I know, the only way to do this is to reset the chapter-level numbering threads using a special 'thread id:$chapnum.n=1' (sorry, not n=0, as I originally posted) paragraph tag for the first instance of each respective numbering thread in each chapter. I'd like to avoid that, but cannot see how. That's what I was asking - is there some clever way of avoiding this tag duplication? I'd like to find a solution that works in unstructured FrameMaker, but I'm also interest in whether numbering thread resetting can be programmed into an EDD somehow. Afaik, if a separate 'thread id:$chapnum.n=1' para tag exists, that can be chosen automatically for the first instance of the respective enclosing element in its parent element (chapter). That doesn't get round the tag duplication, but at least it automates the number thread resetting. I'm just trying to avoid 'tag explosion' here, to keep template maintenance within some sort of reasonable limits. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Those old book numbering blues
I'm confused. You want one autonumber format to control stuff that flows through an entire book. You want paragraph numbers not reset between chapters. If so, then you *don't* want n=0, cuz that will restart the numbering? To set up *one* paragraph style so that it was numbered from paragraph 1 for the book's first paragraph in the first file, to paragraph n for the n-th paragraph in the last file, I'd use autonumber P:n+ for the style, and set Document Numbering... so that paragraph numbers continued from the previous file in the book. Alternatively, if I wanted the first paragraph to be 1 for *each* file in the book, I'd use P:n+ but set Document Numbering... so that paragraph numbers restart at 1 for each file. Joe Joe Malin Technical Writer (408)625-1623 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.tuvox.com The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:09 PM To: framers@FrameUsers.com Subject: Those old book numbering blues I am using one autonumber thread to control stuff that needs to flow through a book. I just wanted to check that in this case, i.e. paragraph number threads not reset between chapters, there is no alternative to creating a separate n=0 paragraph clone for all the numbered paragraphs. Anyone know any good tricks? FrameScript is not an option for this job, but the final template will be structured. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jmalin%40tuvox.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Those old book numbering blues
Steve: I am using one autonumber thread to control stuff that needs to flow through a book. I just wanted to check that in this case, i.e. paragraph number threads not reset between chapters, there is no alternative to creating a separate n=0 paragraph clone for all the numbered paragraphs. Anyone know any good tricks? Set each book component to continue numbering through the book. Then set your chapter title numbering as follows: Chapter\ $chapnum =0 =0 =0 =0 =0 The placeholder after $chapnum is the one you want to continue through the book. The =0 resetters are for the numbering you want to restart for each chapter, e.g. figure, table, equation numbering, etc. Is this what you want? Regards, Hedley -- Hedley Finger Technical Communications Tools Processes Specialist MYOB Australia http://myob.com/au P.O. box 371 Blackburn VIC 3130 Australia 12 Wesley Court Tally Ho Business Park East Burwood VIC 3151 Australia mailto:hedleyDOTfingerATmyobDOTcom Tel. +61 3 9222 9992 x 7421, Mob. (cell) +61 412 461 558 © MYOB Technology Pty Ltd 2005 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
