Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature

2017-04-26 Thread Peter Gold
Ian, thanks for mentioning List of Effective Pages. A search for Framemaker LEP turned up a number of references that folks might find useful. HTH On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Ian Proudfoot wrote: > Hi Stefan, > Yes I tried to use the feature, but it's lack of

Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature

2017-04-26 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson
Stefan, Thanks for this overview. While working for Air Atlanta Icelandic I had some use for point pages when working with certain manuals, technical manuals and you had some deletions or additions of contents to print and send. Later, working with a different type of manuals where the staff

Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature

2017-04-26 Thread Ian Proudfoot
Hi Stefan, Yes I tried to use the feature, but it's lack of support for structured documents made it useless for my applications. Here are my thoughts on where the need came from and why it's still needed... Much of my work is in aerospace and defence where the distribution of paper documents is

Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature

2017-04-25 Thread Richard Pesant
Hi Stefan, I used this feature intensively back in the 90s, with FM 5.6/6 if I recall correctly. Back then, I was working for Nortel Networks producing 9000+ pages libraries. As we were developing a new release, we were also supporting up to four previous releases (for corrections and bug

Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature

2017-04-25 Thread Stefan Gentz
Evangelist   -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 18:10 To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Subject: Re: [Framers] &

Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature

2017-04-25 Thread Klaus Daube
On 25 Apr 2017 at 9:20, Stefan Gentz wrote: > - Has anyone ever used this feature when it was still present in the UI > many versions back? - Is anyone still using it? - What is the use case > scenario that you can think of where it still might be useful? Stefan, I have used it for loose leaf

Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature

2017-04-25 Thread Carol J. Elkins
At 03:20 AM 4/25/2017, you wrote: My question to you: - Has anyone ever used this feature when it was still present in the UI many versions back? - Is anyone still using it? - What is the use case scenario that you can think of where it still might be useful? Stephan, I'm the client for

Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature

2017-04-25 Thread Peter Gold
see it as similar to the existing LOF/LOI functionality.) > > Regards > Grant > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Shmuel Wolfson" <shmue...@gmail.com> > To: "Framers - frameusers.com" <framers@lists.frameusers.com> > Sent: 4/25/

Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature

2017-04-25 Thread Grant Hogarth
mers - frameusers.com" <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Sent: 4/25/2017 6:58:59 AM Subject: Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature You understood me correctly, but the user should be able to define several styles. As a take-off on your idea (of warning before printing), how a

Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature

2017-04-25 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
m: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 13:58 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature Hi Stefan, Instead of freeze pagination, what I would like

Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature

2017-04-25 Thread Urszula
ers [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe@lists.frameusers.com] > On Behalf Of Rick Quatro > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 13:40 > To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' > <framers@lists.frameusers.com> > Subject: Re: [Framers] "Secret" Fr

Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature

2017-04-25 Thread Lin Sims
Both the US military and the aircraft industry made extensive use of point pages. I don't know if they still do. On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 5:20 AM, Stefan Gentz wrote: > Hi Framers, > > Klaus Daube reminded me a few days ago, that there are some "secret" > features in FrameMaker,

Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature

2017-04-25 Thread Stefan Gentz
obe@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 13:58 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature Hi Stefan, Instead of freeze pagination, what I would like is a pagination warning. This feature would,

Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature

2017-04-25 Thread Stefan Gentz
@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 13:40 To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Subject: Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature Hi Stefan, The concept behind F

Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature

2017-04-25 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Hi Stefan, Instead of freeze pagination, what I would like is a pagination warning. This feature would, when turned on, warn you when a paragraph with one of the user-specified specified styles moves to a new page, and when some rows of a table end up on a new page. This would be helpful when

Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature

2017-04-25 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Stefan, The concept behind Freeze Pagination could be very useful for certain categories of documentation. The way it is implemented in FrameMaker severely limits its usefulness. Here are the major problems that occur when you freeze pagination: 1. Paragraphs that break across a page are