Re: [Framers] An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.

2017-12-14 Thread A Craig
That's a literal engineering answer.

My degrees are in Liberal Arts - very different way of thinking ;-

Alison


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I *always" go with option 2 as Word always has so much crud in the background. 

Maybe Frame is good at leaving that behind, but as a glass half empty kind of 
person, I'm not willing to take the chance.

Alison


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Not that I have come across--unless I'm missing something obvious. 

While I appreciate the new Word import feature (it has been in InDesign for 
some time), it works best if one is working with experienced Word users who 
know how to use styles properly. That is not always the case. 

The problem is when the Word file comes in with a bunch of unwanted styles 
(sometimes not even used in the document). Granted, one could import those 
styles and rename & reformat them or map them to existing styles, but that 
isn't how I like to work in many cases. A simple solution is for Adobe put back 
in an option to import as plain text (like the previous import dialog used to 
have). 

Option 1: a working "solution" is to open Word and copy the text. In 
FrameMaker, use the Paste Special menu and choose text. 
Option 2: save the Word file as text and import.
Option 3: go with the flow and map the Word styles to Frame styles, but that 
works best if all writers use styles consistently.

David Creamer
IDEAS Training
FrameMaker training since 1991


From: Pat Christenson <[1]pat.christen...@morningstar.com>
  If you're importing a Word document into FrameMaker 2017, is there a   way to 
disable the feature that adds unmapped formats to the FrameMaker   paragraph, 
character, and table catalogs?
  Thanks.
  Pat Christenson
  Senior Technical Writer, Client Education   Morningstar, Inc.

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Re: [Framers] An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.

2017-12-14 Thread Keith Smyth
As an engineer turned tech writer, it is not is the glass half full, or half 
empty.  The glass is refillable. Keith L. Smyth
President
Smyth Consulting
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of life?"
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I *always" go with option 2 as Word always has so much crud in the
background. 

Maybe Frame is good at leaving that behind, but as a glass half empty kind
of person, I'm not willing to take the chance.

Alison


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From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of David Creamer
Sent: December 13, 2017 8:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Style mapping: Word to FrameMaker 2017

Not that I have come across--unless I'm missing something obvious. 

While I appreciate the new Word import feature (it has been in InDesign for
some time), it works best if one is working with experienced Word users who
know how to use styles properly. That is not always the case. 

The problem is when the Word file comes in with a bunch of unwanted styles
(sometimes not even used in the document). Granted, one could import those
styles and rename & reformat them or map them to existing styles, but that
isn't how I like to work in many cases. A simple solution is for Adobe put
back in an option to import as plain text (like the previous import dialog
used to have). 

Option 1: a working "solution" is to open Word and copy the text. In
FrameMaker, use the Paste Special menu and choose text. 
Option 2: save the Word file as text and import.
Option 3: go with the flow and map the Word styles to Frame styles, but that
works best if all writers use styles consistently.

David Creamer
IDEAS Training
FrameMaker training since 1991


From: Pat Christenson <[1]pat.christen...@morningstar.com>
  If you're importing a Word document into FrameMaker 2017, is there a
  way to disable the feature that adds unmapped formats to the FrameMaker
  paragraph, character, and table catalogs?
  Thanks.
  Pat Christenson
  Senior Technical Writer, Client Education
  Morningstar, Inc.

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