Re: Advice for Upgrading Windows Computer

2006-03-10 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
All very good suggestions. One thing comes into mind though. I have a
very good experience with Dual Processor PC. Comes in handy when
PDF-ing large documents. It will only clog one processor, so you have
the other free for doing other stuff in the meantime.

Also: Two screens are almost a necessity. They will soon enough save a
lot of time. Especially when using Structured FM.

My gear is:

Dell Precision 450 with a CD-reader and a CD/DVD-writer, and 2 HDs,
dual screen graphics card.
Epson Perfection 3170 Photo scanner
DELL Trinitron 21 screen
DELL 17 LCD screen.

All at least 2 years old but working perfectly. So anything on this
level and better is good.

HTH

Bodvar



On 3/9/06, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'd go for as fast a processor as fits in the budget, 1M RAM minimum,
 2+ recommended (I can't run FM and PS reliably and simultaneously
 without it). Also, two hard drives, one for the OS and applications
 and the second for data and the PS scratch disk (per Adobe's
 recommendation). Most all the video cards on the market will provide
 more than enough processing power for anything you'd do; my only
 requirement there would be dual monitor support (and, naturally, dual
 monitors).

 Art



 On 3/9/06, Rita Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I haven't been keeping up with the list lately, so forgive me if this
  topic has been discussed recently. (I know it has been discussed
  periodically in the past, but I assume that standards have changed some
  since then.)
 
  I work as a contractor at a government site, and we've been asked to
  submit a wish list for upgrading our computers. Does anyone have any
  advice on the current minimum standards in DTP for RAM, disk space,
  graphics card, video card, processor, etc.? I have Windows XP and, in
  addition to FrameMaker and various plugins, the major programs I use are
  Windows Office 2003 (XP?), SnagIt, WordPerfect Office 11 (for legacy
  documents), and Acrobat 7. We currently have Photoshop and some other
  graphics programs on a common machine, but I could be adding some of
  these to my machine in the future.
 
  I'm working at home today, and so I don't recall all my the specs on my
  computer at work, but I know I'm pathetically low on RAM (384MB--have
  been begging for more for 2+ years). Fortunately, I've gotten by with
  that because most of our documents have been small. However, I'm
  currently converting a huge document (1200+ pages) from WordPerfect to
  FrameMaker and adding color photos and graphics, and I know I'm going to
  need more computer power.
 
  Any advice would be appreciated.
 

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Re: Advice for Upgrading Windows Computer

2006-03-10 Thread Paul Findon

On 9 Mar 2006, at 16:43, Rita Lewis wrote:

I work as a contractor at a government site, and we've been asked to 
submit a wish list for upgrading our computers. Does anyone have any 
advice on the current minimum standards in DTP for RAM, disk space,


My new Mac arrived this week: I went for a Power Mac G5 with dual-core 
2.3 GHz CPU, 4 GB of memory, 500 GB SATA hard disk, 16x DVD (double 
layer), GeForce 6600 (256MB), and 30-inch Cinema Display. USB 2.0, 
Firewire 400 and 800, and Gigabit Ethernet come as standard.


The display is a real beauty. With 2560 x 1600, I can open several FM 
docs at a very readable size and still have room for all the palettes. 
Speed-wise it's a major jump from my 1 GHz PowerBook, and I can run 
FrameMaker, Illustrator CS2, Photoshop CS2, InDesign CS2, Dreamweaver 
8, Mail, Safari, and a whole bunch of other apps simultaneously and Mac 
OS X doesn't even bat an eyelid, and there's still over 1 GB of memory 
free. CPU usage hovers around 5% with all that lot open. That's the 
power of UNIX I guess.


I recently built a couple of Windows PC for the kids to play their 
games on. (I enjoy building PCs in my spare time but don't enjoy using 
them. Built my first in 1990. In another life I was an electronics 
engineer.) I went for a Shuttle barebones box. Dropped in a 3 GHz 
Pentium 4, 2 GB of memory, 300 GB SATA hard disk, Shuttle DVD drive 
(matching silver fascia), GeForce 9600 Pro. Installed Win XP SP2 and 
had to spend some time configuring all the kids games to run in Windows 
2000 Compatibility mode, but the kids are chuffed to bits. We're not 
yet at the age where frame rate matters and the GeForce 9600 is perfect 
for Reader Rabbit and the like.


I don't like computer noise pollution so replaced the main fan and two 
in the PSU with quiet models, swapped the Northbridge fan for a nice 
big Zalman heatsink, and suspended the hard disk. It's now deafeningly 
quiet, so much so that you wouldn't even think there was a computer in 
the room.


Now if only I could do something about the fans in my Power Mac G5...

Paul

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RE: Advice for Upgrading Windows Computer

2006-03-09 Thread Joe Malin
I don't know that minimum standards exist anywhere.

My recommendation is not to forget RAM. I have 1Mb of RAM on my work
computer, which I consider insufficient. Anything less than 1GB of RAM
with Windows XP is *insufficient*. Any other speed improvements you
make to your computer are worthless unless you have enough RAM. I
personally think 2GB is the minimum.

Most everything else on a computer you'd buy today will be sufficient. 

You don't need a fancy graphics card; the standard out there even for
laptops is more than sufficient. I currently have a graphics card that
supports 1600x1200 at 32-bit color and 120dpi. Tt produces amazingly
clear graphics but most of its power is wasted. The $400-600 graphics
cards you may see out there (and there are plenty) are for gaming, where
the key need is *speed*. You don't need speed unless you plan to be
playing games on your work computer.

By the way, a graphics card and video card are the same thing.

Go with flat screen. They use less energy, last longer, work better, and
take up less space. Nowadays they're roughly the same price as a tube
monitor.

Hard disk space is ridiculously cheap at this point. I would go with a
100GB Serial ATA drive. Serial ATA is the successor to IDE, and supports
higher transfer speeds. IDE is on its way out. Do get a drive with a
very short seek time (= 8ms) and a large buffer (8-16MB), both of which
improve the apparent speed of your drive.

Don't forget a DVD writer. I use my DVD writer at work to do nightly
backups from Retrospect onto DVD. You may also want to consider having a
second hard drive onto which you make backups. I do that at home, and
then transfer the backup images to DVD. Retrospect is roughly $100 and a
bit complicated but it has features no other backup program can offer.

The standard CPU these days runs at roughly 2Ghz. That's all you really
need. My work computer is an Intel Pentium 4 at 3 Ghz, and trust me we
don't spend lots of money on computers!

Make sure your computer comes with USB 2.0. Get yourself a 1GB USB flash
drive, which are now less than $100. Use it to transfer files. Even CDs
are obsolete with flash drives, and of course floppy drives are way
passe.


 Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
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www.tuvox.com
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Of Rita Lewis
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Subject: Advice for Upgrading Windows Computer

I haven't been keeping up with the list lately, so forgive me if this
topic has been discussed recently. (I know it has been discussed
periodically in the past, but I assume that standards have changed some
since then.)

I work as a contractor at a government site, and we've been asked to
submit a wish list for upgrading our computers. Does anyone have any
advice on the current minimum standards in DTP for RAM, disk space,
graphics card, video card, processor, etc.? I have Windows XP and, in
addition to FrameMaker and various plugins, the major programs I use are
Windows Office 2003 (XP?), SnagIt, WordPerfect Office 11 (for legacy
documents), and Acrobat 7. We currently have Photoshop and some other
graphics programs on a common machine, but I could be adding some of
these to my machine in the future.

I'm working at home today, and so I don't recall all my the specs on my
computer at work, but I know I'm pathetically low on RAM (384MB--have
been begging for more for 2+ years). Fortunately, I've gotten by with
that because most of our documents have been small. However, I'm
currently converting a huge document (1200+ pages) from WordPerfect to
FrameMaker and adding color photos and graphics, and I know I'm going to
need more computer power.

Any advice would be appreciated.

In addition to replying to the list, I'd appreciate a cc to my
individual account to expedite receipt of any messages.

Thanks!

Rita
(Cross-posted to FreeFramers and FrameUsers)
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Re: Advice for Upgrading Windows Computer

2006-03-09 Thread Art Campbell
I'd go for as fast a processor as fits in the budget, 1M RAM minimum,
2+ recommended (I can't run FM and PS reliably and simultaneously
without it). Also, two hard drives, one for the OS and applications
and the second for data and the PS scratch disk (per Adobe's
recommendation). Most all the video cards on the market will provide
more than enough processing power for anything you'd do; my only
requirement there would be dual monitor support (and, naturally, dual
monitors).

Art



On 3/9/06, Rita Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I haven't been keeping up with the list lately, so forgive me if this
 topic has been discussed recently. (I know it has been discussed
 periodically in the past, but I assume that standards have changed some
 since then.)

 I work as a contractor at a government site, and we've been asked to
 submit a wish list for upgrading our computers. Does anyone have any
 advice on the current minimum standards in DTP for RAM, disk space,
 graphics card, video card, processor, etc.? I have Windows XP and, in
 addition to FrameMaker and various plugins, the major programs I use are
 Windows Office 2003 (XP?), SnagIt, WordPerfect Office 11 (for legacy
 documents), and Acrobat 7. We currently have Photoshop and some other
 graphics programs on a common machine, but I could be adding some of
 these to my machine in the future.

 I'm working at home today, and so I don't recall all my the specs on my
 computer at work, but I know I'm pathetically low on RAM (384MB--have
 been begging for more for 2+ years). Fortunately, I've gotten by with
 that because most of our documents have been small. However, I'm
 currently converting a huge document (1200+ pages) from WordPerfect to
 FrameMaker and adding color photos and graphics, and I know I'm going to
 need more computer power.

 Any advice would be appreciated.


--
Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
   and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358
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