Re: Conditional build expressions?
Scott, The parenthesis support in conditional build expressions is added in FM 12. Below is some more content about Conditional Text from the FM 12 What's New. Hope this helps. Regards, Gyanesh Conditional Tags pod The new Conditional Tags pod makes it easier for you to create and manage conditional text settings by providing an improved and unified interface. You can conveniently create, edit, and delete conditional tags, apply and show/hide conditional tags, and search for various attributes (for example, tag name, styles, or color). See the video: Conditional Tags Pod<http://www.adobe.com/go/learn_fm12_conditionaltextpod_en> . For more information, see Conditional Tags pod<http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WS2CD82D77-9A48-441b-A3E0-E652D9DAD24B.html> , States of conditional tags<http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WS9e6b3bea246b852026d9bd02142a2d35781-8000.html>, and Automatic validation and visual cues in the conditional expressions<http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WS9e6b584b121581dd-341711cc1429f4588a0-8000.html> . Building complex conditional expressions with parenthesis support and UI guides FrameMaker now allows you to use parentheses in Boolean condition expressions. This makes it easy to create complex conditional expressions. FrameMaker also automatically validates the conditional expressions as you are building them. The Expression Builder UI highlights errors and provides you visual cues to identify the various relevant parts, such as conditional tag names and operators, in the build expressions. See the video: Simplified Conditional Expressions<http://www.adobe.com/go/learn_fm12_simplifiedconditionalexpression_en> . For more information, see Boolean expressions with parenthesis<http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WS3ec8f313bbebcd5e-4a6a385c1429f2b27e7-8000.html> and Automatic validation and visual cues in the conditional expressions<http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WS9e6b584b121581dd-341711cc1429f4588a0-8000.html> . On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Rahul Dhaundiyal wrote: > Hi, > > Here is some documentation which you might find useful: > > > http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSDBF43BE9-0F4B-489e-A467-D98DA307B987.html > > > > Regards > > Rahul Dhaundiyal > > > > *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto: > framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *rebecca officer > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 11, 2014 6:20 AM > *To:* Scott Prentice; 'Framers' > *Subject:* Re: Conditional build expressions? > > > > Hi Scott > > > > I don't know anything about FM8 or FM9 - we skipped them - but I've got > FM10/11/12 all installed on my laptop, for testing purposes. > > > > In FM10/11 you can't enter (). You get an error about invalid syntax if > you do. So that grouping feature is new in FM12. > > > > We've used build expressions a lot in FM10 and it would've been easier > with grouping! > > > > Something else that may not be obvious: you can combine AND with NOT to > give you ANDNOT functionality. That's very useful. > > > > Another thing is that FM 10/11 do group things, you just have no control > over the grouping. We've got expressions like: > > > >productA andnot internalOnly andnot future or product-family-A andnot > internalOnly andnot future > > > > FM groups this as: > > > >(productA andnot internalOnly andnot future) or (product-family-A > andnot internalOnly andnot future) > > not as: > > > > productA andnot internalOnly andnot (future or product-family-A) andnot > internalOnly andnot future > > > > Feel free to ask any other questions, or let me know if you want me to > test anything. > > > > Cheers > > Rebecca > > > > > >>> Scott Prentice 11/03/14 07:27 >>> > Hi... > > This is a stretch .. but if anyone knows it'll be someone on this list. > I'm looking for information on the differences between the basic > functionality of the conditional build expressions in FM from FM8 to FM12. > > From the UI functionality perspective, it looks like FM8 and FM9 are the > same, then in FM10 a "label" was added so you could give your build > expression a name. FM10 and FM11 look the same, and in FM12 they added a > "()" button to allow for grouping. > > The docs are woefully lacking on details. > > Was the basic functionality and syntax the same from FM8 to FM11? Is the > "()" (grouping) feature actually new in FM12 or was that allowed > previously, but you just had to know to type it? I must admit that I've > never really used this featur
RE: Conditional build expressions?
Hi, Here is some documentation which you might find useful: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSDBF43BE9-0F4B-489e-A467-D98DA307B987.html Regards Rahul Dhaundiyal From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of rebecca officer Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 6:20 AM To: Scott Prentice; 'Framers' Subject: Re: Conditional build expressions? Hi Scott I don't know anything about FM8 or FM9 - we skipped them - but I've got FM10/11/12 all installed on my laptop, for testing purposes. In FM10/11 you can't enter (). You get an error about invalid syntax if you do. So that grouping feature is new in FM12. We've used build expressions a lot in FM10 and it would've been easier with grouping! Something else that may not be obvious: you can combine AND with NOT to give you ANDNOT functionality. That's very useful. Another thing is that FM 10/11 do group things, you just have no control over the grouping. We've got expressions like: productA andnot internalOnly andnot future or product-family-A andnot internalOnly andnot future FM groups this as: (productA andnot internalOnly andnot future) or (product-family-A andnot internalOnly andnot future) not as: productA andnot internalOnly andnot (future or product-family-A) andnot internalOnly andnot future Feel free to ask any other questions, or let me know if you want me to test anything. Cheers Rebecca >>> Scott Prentice mailto:s...@leximation.com>> 11/03/14 >>> 07:27 >>> Hi... This is a stretch .. but if anyone knows it'll be someone on this list. I'm looking for information on the differences between the basic functionality of the conditional build expressions in FM from FM8 to FM12. >From the UI functionality perspective, it looks like FM8 and FM9 are the same, >then in FM10 a "label" was added so you could give your build expression a >name. FM10 and FM11 look the same, and in FM12 they added a "()" button to >allow for grouping. The docs are woefully lacking on details. Was the basic functionality and syntax the same from FM8 to FM11? Is the "()" (grouping) feature actually new in FM12 or was that allowed previously, but you just had to know to type it? I must admit that I've never really used this feature, but would like to leverage it in a plugin, so need to know which aspects are new and which have been there since FM8. Any tidbits of info are appreciated. Thanks! ...scott NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Conditional build expressions?
Hi Scott I don't know anything about FM8 or FM9 - we skipped them - but I've got FM10/11/12 all installed on my laptop, for testing purposes. In FM10/11 you can't enter (). You get an error about invalid syntax if you do. So that grouping feature is new in FM12. We've used build expressions a lot in FM10 and it would've been easier with grouping! Something else that may not be obvious: you can combine AND with NOT to give you ANDNOT functionality. That's very useful. Another thing is that FM 10/11 do group things, you just have no control over the grouping. We've got expressions like: productA andnot internalOnly andnot future or product-family-A andnot internalOnly andnot future FM groups this as: (productA andnot internalOnly andnot future) or (product-family-A andnot internalOnly andnot future) not as: productA andnot internalOnly andnot (future or product-family-A) andnot internalOnly andnot future Feel free to ask any other questions, or let me know if you want me to test anything. Cheers Rebecca >>> Scott Prentice 11/03/14 07:27 >>> Hi... This is a stretch .. but if anyone knows it'll be someone on this list. I'm looking for information on the differences between the basic functionality of the conditional build expressions in FM from FM8 to FM12. >From the UI functionality perspective, it looks like FM8 and FM9 are the same, >then in FM10 a "label" was added so you could give your build expression a >name. FM10 and FM11 look the same, and in FM12 they added a "()" button to >allow for grouping. The docs are woefully lacking on details. Was the basic functionality and syntax the same from FM8 to FM11? Is the "()" (grouping) feature actually new in FM12 or was that allowed previously, but you just had to know to type it? I must admit that I've never really used this feature, but would like to leverage it in a plugin, so need to know which aspects are new and which have been there since FM8. Any tidbits of info are appreciated. Thanks! ...scott NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Conditional build expressions?
Thanks Rebecca. I appreciate the pointers! It turns out that this feature may not actually be exposed in the API, so this may not actually go anywhere. I'm hoping that I'm wrong about that, but it's not looking good. Cheers, ...scott On 3/10/14 5:49 PM, rebecca officer wrote: Hi Scott I don't know anything about FM8 or FM9 - we skipped them - but I've got FM10/11/12 all installed on my laptop, for testing purposes. In FM10/11 you can't enter (). You get an error about invalid syntax if you do. So that grouping feature is new in FM12. We've used build expressions a lot in FM10 and it would've been easier with grouping! Something else that may not be obvious: you can combine AND with NOT to give you ANDNOT functionality. That's very useful. Another thing is that FM 10/11 do group things, you just have no control over the grouping. We've got expressions like: productA andnot internalOnly andnot future or product-family-A andnot internalOnly andnot future FM groups this as: (productA andnot internalOnly andnot future) or (product-family-A andnot internalOnly andnot future) not as: productA andnot internalOnly andnot (future or product-family-A) andnot internalOnly andnot future Feel free to ask any other questions, or let me know if you want me to test anything. Cheers Rebecca >>> Scott Prentice 11/03/14 07:27 >>> Hi... This is a stretch .. but if anyone knows it'll be someone on this list. I'm looking for information on the differences between the basic functionality of the conditional build expressions in FM from FM8 to FM12. From the UI functionality perspective, it looks like FM8 and FM9 are the same, then in FM10 a "label" was added so you could give your build expression a name. FM10 and FM11 look the same, and in FM12 they added a "()" button to allow for grouping. The docs are woefully lacking on details. Was the basic functionality and syntax the same from FM8 to FM11? Is the "()" (grouping) feature actually new in FM12 or was that allowed previously, but you just had to know to type it? I must admit that I've never really used this feature, but would like to leverage it in a plugin, so need to know which aspects are new and which have been there since FM8. Any tidbits of info are appreciated. Thanks! ...scott NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
