Re: FrameMaker documentation
Klaus, I got manuals with 7.0 and 7.1. They appear to be identical 7.0 manuals. I did not buy 7.2, so don't know on that one. 8.0 definitely did not come with a manual, nor any of the versions since. Mike Wickham On 12/19/2014 3:16 AM, Klaus Daube wrote: Can somebody please refresh my memory? In http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker69.html I say: « Getting Started guides: At least since FM-8 these guides have disappeared. It's my impession that newcomers are not considered a relevant group of users by Adobe. User Guides: Until FM ??? you got a thick manual. Starting with FM-??? the box only contains a DVD with the program and help files have been dislocated from your PC to the web. The manual from FrameTechnology for FM-5 was 5cm thick (due to the chaper- page numbering the number of pages is difficult to get). Adobes manual for FM-7 has 660 pages. Obviously some information must have been streamlined - or left out. Some special information in separate online-manuals (e.g. concerning asian languages or customisation of FM) has not been put forwared to newer versions of FM. » What number I have to put in place of the ??? Are my statements in error generally? Thanks Klaus Daube ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: www.daube.ch ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as i...@mikewickham.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/info%40mikewickham.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker documentation
FM12 ships with the User Guide in a chm. Complete User Guide. At least my FM12 did.Since then I have downloaded the PDF of the same version as well as the new and updated (ya, right) version. On Friday, December 19, 2014 10:27 AM, Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com wrote: Klaus, I got manuals with 7.0 and 7.1. They appear to be identical 7.0 manuals. I did not buy 7.2, so don't know on that one. 8.0 definitely did not come with a manual, nor any of the versions since. Mike Wickham On 12/19/2014 3:16 AM, Klaus Daube wrote: Can somebody please refresh my memory? In http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker69.html I say: « Getting Started guides: At least since FM-8 these guides have disappeared. It's my impession that newcomers are not considered a relevant group of users by Adobe. User Guides: Until FM ??? you got a thick manual. Starting with FM-??? the box only contains a DVD with the program and help files have been dislocated from your PC to the web. The manual from FrameTechnology for FM-5 was 5cm thick (due to the chaper- page numbering the number of pages is difficult to get). Adobes manual for FM-7 has 660 pages. Obviously some information must have been streamlined - or left out. Some special information in separate online-manuals (e.g. concerning asian languages or customisation of FM) has not been put forwared to newer versions of FM. » What number I have to put in place of the ??? Are my statements in error generally? Thanks Klaus Daube ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: www.daube.ch ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as i...@mikewickham.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/info%40mikewickham.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker documentation
I believe the Asian-language doc for FrameMaker 7 was made obsolete by support for Unicode added in FM8. It's online: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/8.0/chinese_korean.pdf The newly revised FM12 docs cover that under Asian language support. On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 1:16 AM, Klaus Daube fr...@daube.ch wrote: Can somebody please refresh my memory? In http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker69.html I say: « Getting Started guides: At least since FM-8 these guides have disappeared. It's my impession that newcomers are not considered a relevant group of users by Adobe. User Guides: Until FM ??? you got a thick manual. Starting with FM-??? the box only contains a DVD with the program and help files have been dislocated from your PC to the web. The manual from FrameTechnology for FM-5 was 5cm thick (due to the chaper- page numbering the number of pages is difficult to get). Adobes manual for FM-7 has 660 pages. Obviously some information must have been streamlined - or left out. Some special information in separate online-manuals (e.g. concerning asian languages or customisation of FM) has not been put forwared to newer versions of FM. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker documentation
On 19 Dec 2014 at 9:50, Robert Lauriston wrote: The newly revised FM12 docs cover that under Asian language support. Thank You Robert, It turns out that the 'official' (by FM directly addressed pdf/html) contain the following proviously separate documents: - Chinese and Korean Features (as of FM-7) [ - Japanese Publishing with Adobe FameMaker 7.0 [9 pages] It seems that the previously separate information is completely integrated now - on various places (¶-formats, index, find etc.). But I have to check that in detail to give feedback to Adobe. At least the availability of additional Japanese date building blocks (e.g. $daynumkanjikazu) is not mentioned in the FM-12 user guide. Have a nice day and also Merry Christmas Klaus ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: www.daube.ch ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
