Re: Generating web-based help
Good point, Robert. Our app is internal and it opens automatically. You're right; it might not work for external users. Amy ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Generating web-based help
An .exe file is not web help, and if clicking a help button in a web application prompted me to run an .exe file I would probably assume it was malware. On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Sharp, Amy amy.sh...@conocophillips.com wrote: This question was posed Nov. 10, so I'm late responding -- I let messages pile up. I had the exact same issue with a three-year-old CHM that worked great from a server until we went to update the help. Lo and behold, MS had changed the rules. I was lucky enough to find a way around it, using a third-party tool that is not free, but inexpensive, called HTML Executable. It doesn't matter how the CHM was created. I produced mine in Author-It. You run the CHM through HTML Executable and turn it into an EXE file, which can be run from a server. The best part: as part of the process, you can pick a new skin for your help. In my case, it allowed me to upgrade the appearance without tedious (and occasionally dangerous) template rework in Author-It! HTML Executable was fast, did a great job, and required almost no time to learn, especially since I only used that single aspect of the software. I highly recommend it as a simple solution. Amy ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rob...@lauriston.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robert%40lauriston.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Generating web-based help
Google MOTW / Mark of the Web. What add-on are you using to generate the help? You should be generating a set of HTML and CSS files, not a CHM. On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 7:53 AM, David Millis david.mil...@drakesoftware.com wrote: Up to this point, I’ve never generated web-based help, only Microsoft HTML Help 1.x with Framemaker 7.2 as my source documents. The program that my help is used in is now being used as part of a suite of web-based programs. When I view the CHM file in the web-based application, I only see the books, chapters, and headings on the left side. I don’t see any of the actual Help content. That very same CHM file shows all as it should when the application is on my C: drive. My questions are: 1.Is there a setting I need to generate the help for the web-based application? 2.If I need to change the output, what output do I need to select that would require the absolute bare minimum of work on my part? 3.If I choose a different output, do the style and paragraph settings that are part of the HTML Help 1.x output automatically come into the new output type? Thank you so much for your help in advance. David Millis Drake Software ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rob...@lauriston.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robert%40lauriston.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Generating web-based help
Oh, wait, I was confusing two things. You can't read a CHM on a network drive, that's a Windows security thing. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896054 If you've got a CHM, you're not generating web help. MOTW causes a similar problem when viewing web help in MSIE. On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: Google MOTW / Mark of the Web. What add-on are you using to generate the help? You should be generating a set of HTML and CSS files, not a CHM. On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 7:53 AM, David Millis david.mil...@drakesoftware.com wrote: Up to this point, I’ve never generated web-based help, only Microsoft HTML Help 1.x with Framemaker 7.2 as my source documents. The program that my help is used in is now being used as part of a suite of web-based programs. When I view the CHM file in the web-based application, I only see the books, chapters, and headings on the left side. I don’t see any of the actual Help content. That very same CHM file shows all as it should when the application is on my C: drive. My questions are: 1.Is there a setting I need to generate the help for the web-based application? 2.If I need to change the output, what output do I need to select that would require the absolute bare minimum of work on my part? 3.If I choose a different output, do the style and paragraph settings that are part of the HTML Help 1.x output automatically come into the new output type? Thank you so much for your help in advance. David Millis Drake Software ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rob...@lauriston.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robert%40lauriston.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Generating web-based help
David, are you still using WebWorks ePublisher to generate your help system? If yes, have you considered outputting to WebWorks Reverb? Nadine From: David Millis david.mil...@drakesoftware.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 10:53 AM Subject: Generating web-based help Up to this point, I’ve never generated web-based help, only Microsoft HTML Help 1.x with Framemaker 7.2 as my source documents. The program that my help is used in is now being used as part of a suite of web-based programs. When I view the CHM file in the web-based application, I only see the books, chapters, and headings on the left side. I don’t see any of the actual Help content. That very same CHM file shows all as it should when the application is on my C: drive. My questions are: 1.Is there a setting I need to generate the help for the web-based application? 2.If I need to change the output, what output do I need to select that would require the absolute bare minimum of work on my part? 3.If I choose a different output, do the style and paragraph settings that are part of the HTML Help 1.x output automatically come into the new output type? Thank you so much for your help in advance. David Millis Drake Software ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Generating web-based help
Hello David You cannot open a CHM over a network drive. It's a security issue that has been around for years. Hope this helps. Roger Sent from my smartphone On 10 Nov 2014, at 15:53, David Millis david.mil...@drakesoftware.com wrote: Up to this point, I’ve never generated web-based help, only Microsoft HTML Help 1.x with Framemaker 7.2 as my source documents. The program that my help is used in is now being used as part of a suite of web-based programs. When I view the CHM file in the web-based application, I only see the books, chapters, and headings on the left side. I don’t see any of the actual Help content. That very same CHM file shows all as it should when the application is on my C: drive. My questions are: 1.Is there a setting I need to generate the help for the web-based application? 2.If I need to change the output, what output do I need to select that would require the absolute bare minimum of work on my part? 3.If I choose a different output, do the style and paragraph settings that are part of the HTML Help 1.x output automatically come into the new output type? Thank you so much for your help in advance. David Millis Drake Software ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shutti...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shuttie27%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Generating web-based help
David, you don't mention what tools or process you use to create the CHMs, but I'll try to answer your questions: 1. As Roger mentioned, you cannot open a CHM over the web or on network drives. It's a format for local deployment only. 2. You can probably just use the uncompiled HTML. 3. If you use the uncompiled HTML, you shouldn't need to change any formatting. Bill On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Roger Shuttleworth shutti...@gmail.com wrote: Hello David You cannot open a CHM over a network drive. It's a security issue that has been around for years. Hope this helps. Roger Sent from my smartphone On 10 Nov 2014, at 15:53, David Millis david.mil...@drakesoftware.com wrote: Up to this point, I’ve never generated web-based help, only Microsoft HTML Help 1.x with Framemaker 7.2 as my source documents. The program that my help is used in is now being used as part of a suite of web-based programs. When I view the CHM file in the web-based application, I only see the books, chapters, and headings on the left side. I don’t see any of the actual Help content. That very same CHM file shows all as it should when the application is on my C: drive. My questions are: 1.Is there a setting I need to generate the help for the web-based application? 2.If I need to change the output, what output do I need to select that would require the absolute bare minimum of work on my part? 3.If I choose a different output, do the style and paragraph settings that are part of the HTML Help 1.x output automatically come into the new output type? Thank you so much for your help in advance. David Millis Drake Software ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shutti...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shuttie27%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as techcommd...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/techcommdood%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Bill Swallow ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Generating web-based help
I’m not sure how useful this will be to people, but Sumatra PDF, a lightweight PDF viewer, can open .chm help on network drives. http://blog.kowalczyk.info/software/sumatrapdf/free-pdf-reader.html It’s also generally a very nice, minimal PDF reader. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Roger Shuttleworth Sent: November-10-14 11:16 AM To: David Millis Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Generating web-based help Hello David You cannot open a CHM over a network drive. It's a security issue that has been around for years. Hope this helps. Roger Sent from my smartphone On 10 Nov 2014, at 15:53, David Millis david.mil...@drakesoftware.commailto:david.mil...@drakesoftware.com wrote: Up to this point, I’ve never generated web-based help, only Microsoft HTML Help 1.x with Framemaker 7.2 as my source documents. The program that my help is used in is now being used as part of a suite of web-based programs. When I view the CHM file in the web-based application, I only see the books, chapters, and headings on the left side. I don’t see any of the actual Help content. That very same CHM file shows all as it should when the application is on my C: drive. My questions are: 1. Is there a setting I need to generate the help for the web-based application? 2. If I need to change the output, what output do I need to select that would require the absolute bare minimum of work on my part? 3. If I choose a different output, do the style and paragraph settings that are part of the HTML Help 1.x output automatically come into the new output type? Thank you so much for your help in advance. David Millis Drake Software ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shutti...@gmail.commailto:shutti...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shuttie27%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.commailto:listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
