Re: Incorporating external documents containing tables, into a book

2013-03-08 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 14:08 -0500 7/3/13, john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com wrote:

I have 25 8-page documents that I created in Word that I need to include in
the book. I can supply them in either Word or PDF. However, the issue is
that each Word document is a single table with tables inside of the tables
and they don't come into the FM well because FM doesn't break rows between
pages..and since each 8 page document is one table (PLEASE don't ask...its
a battle I've been fighting since October), the eight pages just run down
off the bottom of the first imported page.

John, if you import the tables as PDF images, do not the page choice, zoom and 
mico-positioning that Frame offers you make the job do-able?
 
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Re: Incorporating external documents containing tables, into a book

2013-03-08 Thread rebecca officer
Hi John
 
Ugh. I assume you need consecutive page numbering, bookwide TOC, links, 
bookmarks etc?
 
I don't know a good solution, but one ugly workaround is to combine the files 
at the PDF stage instead of the FM stage.
 
To do this, you'd futz the page numbering in Word so each file started on the 
desired page, create 8-page FM placeholder chapters in the FM book, make your 
PDFs from FM and Word, use Acrobat to replace the placeholder pages with the 
correct pages, and manually fix links and bookmarks.
 
Cheers
Rebecca

 john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com 8/03/13 08:08 
Hi, guys...long time.


Anyway...I have a book that when printed, comes out at over 900 pages and
is composed of about 300 files.


I have 25 8-page documents that I created in Word that I need to include in
the book. I can supply them in either Word or PDF. However, the issue is
that each Word document is a single table with tables inside of the tables
and they don't come into the FM well because FM doesn't break rows between
pages..and since each 8 page document is one table (PLEASE don't ask...its
a battle I've been fighting since October), the eight pages just run down
off the bottom of the first imported page.


Any ideas? I also have the issue of working in a locked down environment,
so installing other software is not an option. BTW...I'm on FM11.


John Posada

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Re: Incorporating external documents containing tables, into a book

2013-03-08 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:53 -0500 8/3/13, john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com wrote
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yes, I could bring in each page of the PDF separately...but we're talking
about 200 pages. I'd have to select 200 pages, one by one?

Sorry, John... I should have read your post more carefully :-(

Hopefully someone will come up with a time-saving trick for you.

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RE: Incorporating external documents containing tables, into a book

2013-03-08 Thread Rick Quatro
FYI, importing all 200 pages of the PDF at once could be done with
FrameScript. If you are interested in exploring this further, please contact
me off-list. Thank you very much.

Rick Quatro
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r...@frameexpert.com



At 09:53 -0500 8/3/13, john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com wrote
:
yes, I could bring in each page of the PDF separately...but we're 
talking about 200 pages. I'd have to select 200 pages, one by one?

Sorry, John... I should have read your post more carefully :-(

Hopefully someone will come up with a time-saving trick for you.

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Re: Incorporating external documents containing tables, into a book

2013-03-08 Thread John Posada
I cannot combine the PDFs as each external document goes to a different
chapter. I'd have to futz the page numbers 25 times. That's not the hard
part...I'd then have to manually edit the PDF output of the book to merge
into the deliverableya know...this might be a last-resort
optioncreate a place holder, then use Acrobat to replace pages.
hmm...let me think about this.


On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:22 PM, rebecca officer 
rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz wrote:

  Hi John

 Ugh. I assume you need consecutive page numbering, bookwide TOC, links,
 bookmarks etc?

 I don't know a good solution, but one ugly workaround is to combine the
 files at the PDF stage instead of the FM stage.

 To do this, you'd futz the page numbering in Word so each file started on
 the desired page, create 8-page FM placeholder chapters in the FM book,
 make your PDFs from FM and Word, use Acrobat to replace the placeholder
 pages with the correct pages, and manually fix links and bookmarks.

 Cheers
 Rebecca

  john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com 8/03/13 08:08 

 Hi, guys...long time.


 Anyway...I have a book that when printed, comes out at over 900 pages and
 is composed of about 300 files.


 I have 25 8-page documents that I created in Word that I need to include in
 the book. I can supply them in either Word or PDF. However, the issue is
 that each Word document is a single table with tables inside of the tables
 and they don't come into the FM well because FM doesn't break rows between
 pages..and since each 8 page document is one table (PLEASE don't ask...its
 a battle I've been fighting since October), the eight pages just run down
 off the bottom of the first imported page.


 Any ideas? I also have the issue of working in a locked down environment,
 so installing other software is not an option. BTW...I'm on FM11.


 John Posada

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Re: Incorporating external documents containing tables, into a book

2013-03-08 Thread Art Campbell
If the Word content is stable and you can lock it down, I'd try:

   1. Save as RTF
   2. Import it into Frame, maybe using the Japanese RTF import filter (I
   havean't tried that in 11 yet) if the regular RTF can't cope.
   3. Save Frame files out as MIF to clean them up,
   4. Open and manually break the tables to get the pagination correct. I
   suspect it'll mean one short table segment per page, but you can fudge the
   numbering if necessary.



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On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:08 PM, john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com wrote:

 Hi, guys...long time.


 Anyway...I have a book that when printed, comes out at over 900 pages and
 is composed of about 300 files.


 I have 25 8-page documents that I created in Word that I need to include in
 the book. I can supply them in either Word or PDF. However, the issue is
 that each Word document is a single table with tables inside of the tables
 and they don't come into the FM well because FM doesn't break rows between
 pages..and since each 8 page document is one table (PLEASE don't ask...its
 a battle I've been fighting since October), the eight pages just run down
 off the bottom of the first imported page.


 Any ideas? I also have the issue of working in a locked down environment,
 so installing other software is not an option. BTW...I'm on FM11.


 John Posada

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Re: Incorporating external documents containing tables, into a book

2013-03-08 Thread john . x . posada
yes, I could bring in each page of the PDF separately...but we're talking
about 200 pages. I'd have to select 200 pages, one by one?


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At 14:08 -0500 7/3/13, john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com wrote:

I have 25 8-page documents that I created in Word that I need to include
in
the book. I can supply them in either Word or PDF. However, the issue is
that each Word document is a single table with tables inside of the tables
and they don't come into the FM well because FM doesn't break rows between
pages..and since each 8 page document is one table (PLEASE don't ask...its
a battle I've been fighting since October), the eight pages just run down
off the bottom of the first imported page.

John, if you import the tables as PDF images, do not the page choice, zoom
and mico-positioning that Frame offers you make the job do-able?

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Re: Incorporating external documents containing tables, into a book

2013-03-08 Thread Robert Lauriston
How about exporting from FM to Word and using a master document to
combine all the parts?
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