RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-20 Thread Craig Ede
To: Fred Ridder; Reng, Dr. Winfried; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics I'm sorry you feel that way, Fred. I did try your solution and couldn't get it to work straight off. It seems for some reason that the timing of the entry of esc m p is absolutely crucial

RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-20 Thread Alastair Dent
keystrokes seem to go astray. If I type too slowly, Frame thinks I'm starting a different style with each letter. Maybe I need a faster PC. From: Craig Ede [mailto:craig...@hotmail.com] Sent: 19 September 2013 06:13 To: Alastair Dent; 'Framer's List' Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics

RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-20 Thread Craig Ede
: Inserting inline graphics On 2013-Sep-18 3:38 AM, Alastair Dent wrote: Winfried was the first to suggest using object styles, maybe because they only came in with Frame 11. Um, no, I suggested them on Sept. 9 in a message to Matt Sullivan, copied to the list and to Alistair

Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-19 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 2013-Sep-18 3:38 AM, Alastair Dent wrote: Winfried was the first to suggest using object styles, maybe because they only came in with Frame 11. Um, no, I suggested them on Sept. 9 in a message to Matt Sullivan, copied to the list and to Alistair... (credit where due dept.:-) s.

RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-18 Thread Alastair Dent
To: Alastair Dent; Reng, Dr. Winfried; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics For the record, I recommended this exact solution in a direct (off-list) reply to Alastair last Monday, within hours of his original query appearing on the list. I use it all the time and would go

RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-17 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
[mailto:framers- boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alastair Dent Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 9:54 AM To: Robert Lauriston Cc: David Creamer; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics I'm using something like your suggested workflow. The downside

RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-17 Thread Combs, Richard
Alastair Dent wrote: I'm using something like your suggested workflow. The downside of it is that pasting into the pre-formatted frame doesn't work well. Even if the scratch icon bitmap is selected, pasting doesn't replace it. Selecting the frame and pasting results in the bitmap appearing

RE: Inserting Inline Graphics - and AutoText

2013-09-17 Thread O'Laoghaire Micheal
We're long-time users of the AutoText plugin and it has saved us countless hours and much aggravation. Micheal O'Laoghaire Comverse Inc Wakefield, MA -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of

Re: Inserting Inline Graphics - and AutoText

2013-09-17 Thread Dave Reynolds
I would agree with Michael. We've used AutoText for years to insert anchored frames containing icons/small graphics - both in-line and in the margins. It has saved us a lot of time. It seems like the perfect solution for Alastair (the original poster). I have mentioned AutoText to Alastairin

RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-17 Thread Alastair Dent
...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Reng, Dr. Winfried Sent: 17 September 2013 08:51 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics Hi Alastair, I also think that icons are far better than just the tooltip text. Of course this depends always

RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-17 Thread Craig Ede
Testimonial: Works like a charm! (I used it at a job some years back.) Craig -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of st...@siliconprairiesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:07 PM To:

RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-17 Thread Fred Ridder
: alastair.d...@imgtec.com To: wr...@tycoint.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:54:51 + Winfried, I could kiss you. That works - although I have to be careful with the timing of the ESC m p; too fast and it doesn't work, too

RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-16 Thread Alastair Dent
:30 To: Alastair Dent Cc: David Creamer; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Inserting inline graphics Extracting the icons from the plug-in source should not be difficult, they're usually all in one directory. Assuming the icons are all the same size, in a separate .fm file create one frame

Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-16 Thread Robert Lauriston
user. -Original Message- From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: 15 September 2013 18:30 To: Alastair Dent Cc: David Creamer; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Inserting inline graphics Extracting the icons from

Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-16 Thread Robert Lauriston
Extracting the icons from the plug-in source should not be difficult, they're usually all in one directory. Assuming the icons are all the same size, in a separate .fm file create one frame with one scratch icon bitmap with all the settings as you want them. Copy and paste that into your main

Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-13 Thread David Creamer
I could see where a custom font would be a problem if the job was not meant for print or PDF. However, one could use HTML font-includes for web-based help or embed the font in an ePub. Of course, that brings up other potential problems: such as having a reasonably up-to-date browser or ePub

RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-13 Thread Alastair Dent
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Creamer Sent: 12 September 2013 23:00 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Inserting inline graphics As a workflow that would be simply impractical. You are right--manually inserting hundreds of graphics is better than setting

Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-13 Thread Robert Lauriston
Have you actually done that? I tried a few years ago and the theory did not work in practice. On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:35 PM, David Creamer ideasli...@ideastraining.com wrote: I could see where a custom font would be a problem if the job was not meant for print or PDF. However, one could

RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-12 Thread David Creamer
As a workflow that would be simply impractical. You are right--manually inserting hundreds of graphics is better than setting up a character tag or table tag and changing a letter to show the desired button. I my mind, I see it easier to put all the buttons in one font (not one font per

Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-12 Thread Robert Lauriston
Creating a custom dingbat font for the icons could work if you were delivering PDF. It would be problematic for help formats that use the client's fonts. Your authoring tool would have to convert the dingbats to images. On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:59 PM, David Creamer ideasli...@ideastraining.com

Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-11 Thread Robert Lauriston
It might save time to copy and paste an existing frame containing an icon, copy the icon you need, select the icon in the frame, and paste to replace it. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to

RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-11 Thread Alastair Dent
: m...@mattrsullivan.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Inserting inline graphics It might save time to copy and paste an existing frame containing an icon, copy the icon you need, select the icon in the frame, and paste to replace

Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-11 Thread David Creamer
What about converting the graphic to a font? http://www.fontlab.com/font-editor/typetool/ David Creamer IDEAS Training http://www.ideastraining.com Adobe Authorized Instructor Certified Expert since 1995 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers

RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-11 Thread Alastair Dent
2013 13:55 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Inserting inline graphics What about converting the graphic to a font? http://www.fontlab.com/font-editor/typetool/ David Creamer IDEAS Training http://www.ideastraining.com Adobe Authorized Instructor Certified Expert since 1995

Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-11 Thread Robert Lauriston
Yeah, FrameMaker's workflow isn't good for that. That's one reason I avoid icon characters and in favor of tooltips. You could probably automate it with FrameScript. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 6:03 AM, Alastair Dent alastair.d...@imgtec.com wrote: As a workflow that would be simply impractical.

RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-10 Thread Alastair Dent
. There are hundreds of icons in this product and I will only know which ones I need to use as I'm writing. From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:m...@mattrsullivan.com] Sent: 09 September 2013 22:20 To: Alastair Dent Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Inserting inline graphics I had to do

Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-10 Thread Lin Sims
@lists.frameusers.com *Subject:* Re: Inserting inline graphics ** ** I had to do that approximately eleventh-six hundred times in writing the Fm11 book! ** ** I set my cursor in the text, between ()'s, and hit paste. Then I used Alt+(down arrow) to wrangle it into position. I don't know

Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-09 Thread Matt Sullivan
I had to do that approximately eleventh-six hundred times in writing the Fm11 book!I set my cursor in the text, between ()'s, and hit paste. Then I used Alt+(down arrow) to wrangle it into position. I don't know that you'll find a faster solution than that... -MattMatt R.

Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-09 Thread Matt Sullivan
If only I knew somebody… ;)I don't know how much time the scripting would have saved though. After the effort to script it, I'd still have to id the graphic, and choose the appropriate offset.Really, in this case I never felt like it was slowing me down. By choosing from my button matrix, I only

Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-09 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 2013-Sep-09 5:19 PM, Matt Sullivan wrote: I had to do that approximately eleventh-six hundred times in writing the Fm11 book! I set my cursor in the text, between ()'s, and hit paste. Then I used Alt+(down arrow) to wrangle it into position. I don't know that you'll find a faster solution

Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-09 Thread Scott Prentice
One could certainly create a plugin or Frame/ExtendScript that would simplify that process. Before doing something "eleventh-six hundred times" I'd look for some type of automation. :) Sounds like an "Insert Icon" command is needed here. Run command

RE: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-09 Thread Combs, Richard
Alastair Dent wrote: I need to be able to quickly insert graphics (button icons) into instructions. I've had a brief go at this and it seems needlessly complex Paste graphic Select frame, chance to 'anchor at insertion point'. I still end up with a button icon floating too high. What

Re: Inserting inline graphics

2013-09-09 Thread Matt Sullivan
Hi Stuart, I did consider the Object styles, but the difference in sizes of inline graphics seemed too much to manage. The Alt+arrow method was easy enough to apply per graphic.I did search through the maker.ini for a way to set a better default baseline, but couldn't locate one.Object styles were