Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-26 Thread Soeren Rievers
The following text is from the adobe site (
http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/features/?view=topnew)


Importing of comments from PDF files

Easily gather and incorporate review comments from subject matter experts 
and other colleagues. Use the Track Text Edits feature and a new user 
interface to efficiently manage review processes.


So it is possible according to the new feature list.

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 I'm bummed out if it's true that the standalone version of FM9 doesn't
 share the integrated PDF review capability of TCS. I would really like 
 that
 feature, but FM is the only product I need from that suite, since I 
have
 CS4 Design Premium. There's no way I'm going to pay $1299 to upgrade
 and then be forced into the more expensive upgrade path for future
 versions, too.

 When you say integrated PDF review, do you mean that when someone
 makes a comment on a PDF when in review, you can import those changes
 and comments into the Frame file, instead of having to copy and paste 
them
 and then edit your text?

Yes. I just went back and looked at the online video. They are calling it 
PDF shared review, but there is not one word of mention of it in the FM9 

user guide, nor of the File Save as PDF (Send For Review) menu item in 
FM9. 
I can see in my existing Acrobat 9 Pro an option to Send for Shared 
Review, 
so it's clear that I can send a PDF for review, and get back the changes, 
but not clear if the standalone version of FM9 can import the changes 
directly into FM9-- or if that's a feature available only in the TCS 
version 
of FM9.

Mike Wickham


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Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-22 Thread Lin Sims
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com wrote:
 Yes. I just went back and looked at the online video. They are calling it
 PDF shared review, but there is not one word of mention of it in the FM9
 user guide, nor of the File Save as PDF (Send For Review) menu item in FM9.
 I can see in my existing Acrobat 9 Pro an option to Send for Shared Review,
 so it's clear that I can send a PDF for review, and get back the changes,
 but not clear if the standalone version of FM9 can import the changes
 directly into FM9-- or if that's a feature available only in the TCS version
 of FM9.

 Mike Wickham


According to the Adobe web site listing the new features of FM9, it can.

http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/features/?view=topnew


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RE: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-22 Thread John Sgammato
It can. 
I downloaded the FM9 demo and tested it last night. 
I opened my Appliance Guide book and all chapters and generated the PDF
using the Save as PDF (Send for review)... Feature. 
Then I opened the PDF and made some various edits (deletions,
insertions, sticky notes, and highlighting).
Then in the Book file, I imported PDF comments. The insert/delete
comments appeared as conditional text in different colors, and the two
sticky notes appeared as markers.
I do not see an MS Word-style accept-reject comment option, but it
will still save a lot of time to have them all in place for me. 

john  

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Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 1:05 PM
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Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
newAdobeeLearningSuite

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com
wrote:
 Yes. I just went back and looked at the online video. They are calling

 it PDF shared review, but there is not one word of mention of it in 
 the FM9 user guide, nor of the File Save as PDF (Send For Review)
menu item in FM9.
 I can see in my existing Acrobat 9 Pro an option to Send for Shared 
 Review, so it's clear that I can send a PDF for review, and get back 
 the changes, but not clear if the standalone version of FM9 can import

 the changes directly into FM9-- or if that's a feature available only 
 in the TCS version of FM9.

 Mike Wickham


According to the Adobe web site listing the new features of FM9, it can.

http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/features/?view=topnew


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Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-22 Thread Art Campbell
John,
I'm not positive because I haven't played with it yet myself, but I think
the next step is to use Frame's Track Changes tool to Accept/Reject the
delete / insert comments that you've imported.

Art

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redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
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On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:40 PM, John Sgammato jsgamm...@imprivata.comwrote:

 It can.
 I downloaded the FM9 demo and tested it last night.
 I opened my Appliance Guide book and all chapters and generated the PDF
 using the Save as PDF (Send for review)... Feature.
 Then I opened the PDF and made some various edits (deletions,
 insertions, sticky notes, and highlighting).
 Then in the Book file, I imported PDF comments. The insert/delete
 comments appeared as conditional text in different colors, and the two
 sticky notes appeared as markers.
 I do not see an MS Word-style accept-reject comment option, but it
 will still save a lot of time to have them all in place for me.

 john

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims
 Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 1:05 PM
 To: Mike Wickham
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
 newAdobeeLearningSuite

 On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com
 wrote:
  Yes. I just went back and looked at the online video. They are calling

  it PDF shared review, but there is not one word of mention of it in
  the FM9 user guide, nor of the File Save as PDF (Send For Review)
 menu item in FM9.
  I can see in my existing Acrobat 9 Pro an option to Send for Shared
  Review, so it's clear that I can send a PDF for review, and get back
  the changes, but not clear if the standalone version of FM9 can import

  the changes directly into FM9-- or if that's a feature available only
  in the TCS version of FM9.
 
  Mike Wickham


 According to the Adobe web site listing the new features of FM9, it can.

 http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/features/?view=topnew


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RE: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-22 Thread Lief Erickson
My question is do you need Acrobat Pro Extended or will Acrobat Pro (or
even Acrobat Standard) suffice?

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:49 PM
To: John Sgammato
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Mike Wickham; Lin Sims
Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
newAdobeeLearningSuite

John,
I'm not positive because I haven't played with it yet myself, but I
think
the next step is to use Frame's Track Changes tool to Accept/Reject the
delete / insert comments that you've imported.

Art

Art Campbell
 art.campb...@gmail.com
 ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
and a
redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers
apply.
  DoD 358


On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:40 PM, John Sgammato
jsgamm...@imprivata.comwrote:

 It can.
 I downloaded the FM9 demo and tested it last night.
 I opened my Appliance Guide book and all chapters and generated the
PDF
 using the Save as PDF (Send for review)... Feature.
 Then I opened the PDF and made some various edits (deletions,
 insertions, sticky notes, and highlighting).
 Then in the Book file, I imported PDF comments. The insert/delete
 comments appeared as conditional text in different colors, and the two
 sticky notes appeared as markers.
 I do not see an MS Word-style accept-reject comment option, but it
 will still save a lot of time to have them all in place for me.

 john

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims
 Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 1:05 PM
 To: Mike Wickham
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
 newAdobeeLearningSuite

 On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com
 wrote:
  Yes. I just went back and looked at the online video. They are
calling

  it PDF shared review, but there is not one word of mention of it
in
  the FM9 user guide, nor of the File Save as PDF (Send For Review)
 menu item in FM9.
  I can see in my existing Acrobat 9 Pro an option to Send for Shared
  Review, so it's clear that I can send a PDF for review, and get back
  the changes, but not clear if the standalone version of FM9 can
import

  the changes directly into FM9-- or if that's a feature available
only
  in the TCS version of FM9.
 
  Mike Wickham


 According to the Adobe web site listing the new features of FM9, it
can.

 http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/features/?view=topnew


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RE: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-22 Thread John Sgammato
I was using Acrobat 8 Professional that came with Adobe Design Premium
CS3. 

-Original Message-
From: Lief Erickson [mailto:l...@networkinstruments.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 3:51 PM
To: Art Campbell; John Sgammato
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Mike Wickham; Lin Sims
Subject: RE: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
newAdobeeLearningSuite

My question is do you need Acrobat Pro Extended or will Acrobat Pro (or
even Acrobat Standard) suffice?

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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:49 PM
To: John Sgammato
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Mike Wickham; Lin Sims
Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
newAdobeeLearningSuite

John,
I'm not positive because I haven't played with it yet myself, but I
think the next step is to use Frame's Track Changes tool to
Accept/Reject the delete / insert comments that you've imported.

Art

Art Campbell
 art.campb...@gmail.com
 ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers
apply.
  DoD 358


On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:40 PM, John Sgammato
jsgamm...@imprivata.comwrote:

 It can.
 I downloaded the FM9 demo and tested it last night.
 I opened my Appliance Guide book and all chapters and generated the
PDF
 using the Save as PDF (Send for review)... Feature.
 Then I opened the PDF and made some various edits (deletions, 
 insertions, sticky notes, and highlighting).
 Then in the Book file, I imported PDF comments. The insert/delete 
 comments appeared as conditional text in different colors, and the two

 sticky notes appeared as markers.
 I do not see an MS Word-style accept-reject comment option, but it 
 will still save a lot of time to have them all in place for me.

 john

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims
 Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 1:05 PM
 To: Mike Wickham
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and 
 newAdobeeLearningSuite

 On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com
 wrote:
  Yes. I just went back and looked at the online video. They are
calling

  it PDF shared review, but there is not one word of mention of it
in
  the FM9 user guide, nor of the File Save as PDF (Send For Review)
 menu item in FM9.
  I can see in my existing Acrobat 9 Pro an option to Send for Shared 
  Review, so it's clear that I can send a PDF for review, and get back

  the changes, but not clear if the standalone version of FM9 can
import

  the changes directly into FM9-- or if that's a feature available
only
  in the TCS version of FM9.
 
  Mike Wickham


 According to the Adobe web site listing the new features of FM9, it
can.

 http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/features/?view=topnew


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RE: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-21 Thread Flato, Gillian
When you say integrated PDF review, do you mean that when someone makes
a comment on a PDF when in review, you can import those changes and
comments into the Frame file, instead of having to copy and paste them
and then edit your text? 


-Gillian


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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:30 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
newAdobeeLearningSuite

 Acrobat 9 is in all 3.
 Captivate is in TC and eLearning.
 Flash in eLearning and CS4.
 PhotoShop is in eLearning and CS4.
 Dreamweaver is in eLearning and CS4.
 The unique s/w in TC is FM and RoboHelp which I need for clients.
 In eLearning: Presenter and Soundbooth.
 In CS4: InDesign, Illustrator, and Fireworks.

Actually, Photoshop and Presenter are also in TC.

I'm bummed out if it's true that the standalone version of FM9 doesn't
share 
the integrated PDF review capability of TCS. I would really like that 
feature, but FM is the only product I need from that suite, since I have
CS4 
Design Premium. There's no way I'm going to pay $1299 to upgrade and
then be 
forced into the more expensive upgrade path for future versions, too.

Mike Wickham


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