RE: One problem down, one new one comes up

2010-02-23 Thread Fred Ridder

Ken Poshedly wrote:

 

 The problem was that no matter what I did, a preceding hyphen (dash, 
 whatever) appeared with the numerical page number digit.
 
 Apparently, the problem was caused by a glitch. For instance, in the TOC I 
 was working on, the variable definition for current page number is shown as 
 $curpagenum with no hyphen included, yet a hyphen always preceded the 
 numerical digit.
 
 I followed suggestions from you guys to import the format of another TOC 
 instead of using the format of my body chapters. It worked. 
 
 Note that now the variable definition for current page number is still shown 
 as $curpagenum with no hyphen, and NO hyphen precedes the numerical digit.
 
 Go figure.


This is perfectly logical. The variable is only the number, exactly as it 
should be. The hyphen was included as a literal character in the layout of the 
headers and footers for your chapter files, exactly as it should be. If you use 
the *same* template with the same page layouts for the TOC, you get a literal 
hyphen when you don't want it because it's part of the standard page layout. To 
get rid of it, you need to have a different page layout design for the TOC 
pages, either by adding custom master pages for the TOC to the standard 
template or by using a custom template for the TOC. 

-Fred Ridder
  
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Re: One problem down, one new one comes up

2010-02-23 Thread Ken Poshedly
Hey Fred,

Got it, but it won't happen no more. grin

-- Kenpo





From: Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com
To: poshe...@bellsouth.net; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 10:19:51 AM
Subject: RE: One problem down, one new one comes up

Ken Poshedly wrote:
 
 The problem was that no matter what I did, a preceding hyphen (dash, 
 whatever) appeared with the numerical page number digit.
 
 Apparently, the problem was caused by a glitch. For instance, in the TOC I 
 was working on, the variable definition for current page number is shown as 
 $curpagenum with no hyphen included, yet a hyphen always preceded the 
 numerical digit.
 
 I followed suggestions from you guys to import the format of another TOC 
 instead of using the format of my body chapters. It worked. 
 
 Note that now the variable definition for current page number is still shown 
 as $curpagenum with no hyphen, and NO hyphen precedes the numerical digit.
 
 Go figure.

This is perfectly logical. The variable is only the number, exactly as it 
should be. The hyphen was included as a literal character in the layout of the 
headers and footers for your chapter files, exactly as it should be. If you use 
the *same* template with the same page layouts for the TOC, you get a literal 
hyphen when you don't want it because it's part of the standard page layout. To 
get rid of it, you need to have a different page layout design for the TOC 
pages, either by adding custom master pages for the TOC to the standard 
template or by using a custom template for the TOC. 
-Fred Ridder
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RE: One problem down, one new one comes up

2010-02-23 Thread Combs, Richard
Ken Poshedly wrote: 
 
 Apparently, the problem was caused by a glitch. For instance, in the TOC I
 was working on, the variable definition for current page number is shown as
 $curpagenum with no hyphen included, yet a hyphen always preceded the
 numerical digit.

Not at all a glitch. You were using the master pages from your chapters, which 
have the hyphen in their footers between the chapter number and page number. I 
explained this to you. Maybe I wasn't sufficiently clear... 
 
 I followed suggestions from you guys to import the format of another TOC
 instead of using the format of my body chapters. It worked.
 
 Note that now the variable definition for current page number is still
 shown as $curpagenum with no hyphen, and NO hyphen precedes the numerical
 digit.
 
 Go figure.

Go learn about master pages. :-)


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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Re: One problem down, one new one comes up

2010-02-23 Thread Ken Poshedly
Hi Rich,

Perhaps I did misunderstand you. Before posting my original request for help 
last week, I, of course, made sure that no chapter number was to be included in 
the footer and then checked the master page and footer of the TOC-in-progress. 
And yes, there was NO chapter number but there was a hyphen followed by the 
pound sign (#). And it could not be selected and deleted.

And in checking the current page number variable definition, I made sure there 
was no hyphen preceding the open bracket  for $curpagenum , but the 
hyphen still appeared in the master page footer for current page number. It 
continues to baffle me that no hyphen is in the variable definition but it 
appears anyway and cannot be slected for deletion in the master page view.

It's sort of like a cartoon I saw some time ago of a scientist in front of a 
nearly full chalkboard of mathematical equations and at the very end are the 
words, And then a miracle happens.

In any case, I accept that you are correct and I have much to learn from you.

-- Kenpo





From: Combs, Richard richard.co...@polycom.com
To: Ken Poshedly poshe...@bellsouth.net; FrameMaker Users List 
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 10:28:19 AM
Subject: RE: One problem down, one new one comes up

Ken Poshedly wrote: 

 Apparently, the problem was caused by a glitch. For instance, in the TOC I
 was working on, the variable definition for current page number is shown as
 $curpagenum with no hyphen included, yet a hyphen always preceded the
 numerical digit.

Not at all a glitch. You were using the master pages from your chapters, which 
have the hyphen in their footers between the chapter number and page number. I 
explained this to you. Maybe I wasn't sufficiently clear... 

 I followed suggestions from you guys to import the format of another TOC
 instead of using the format of my body chapters. It worked.
 
 Note that now the variable definition for current page number is still
 shown as $curpagenum with no hyphen, and NO hyphen precedes the numerical
 digit.
 
 Go figure.

Go learn about master pages. :-)


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
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rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
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