Re: importing master pages, but not getting Room for Sideheads (FM12 unst)

2014-08-12 Thread Kurt Kroeber
To elaborate John's point on the importing of formats from one file to
another, the problem seems to stems from the fact that when the template is
applied to another document almost all of the formats are applied except
for one -- the Room for Side Heads object property is disabled for the text
frame on the body page.  However, all of the template format settings look
fine on the master pages.  Even when I reapplied the master page this still
did not change the Room for Side Heads text object property on the body
page.  To resolve this problem,  I selected the Object Properties for the
text frame on the body page and enabled Room for Side Heads.  This manual
updating of the text object property seemed to do the trick.

I am not sure if this Room for Side Heads object property issue is with
FrameMaker; it should accept 100% of the object property settings from a
template file.

Thanks,

Kurt


On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:37 AM, John Sgammato john.sgamm...@actifio.com
wrote:

 Our Marketing group wants us to use new templates that have room for a
 sidebar. We won't actually use the sidebar for anything, and it's OK for
 titles, images, and tables to extend into the sidebar. We may put notes
 over there.
 We have been able to do this with the Room for Sideheads feature, and
 we're pretty happy with the look. But when we import formats from one file
 to another, all the formats come over as expected except for the sideheads
 setting.
 Is this a bug? A feature we don't understand? Has anyone dealt with this?
 How can we import that sidehead setting along with the rest of the settings?

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Re: importing master pages, but not getting Room for Sideheads (FM12 unst)

2014-08-12 Thread Sharon Burton
Long standing bug. I recall this in frame 4. 

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 On Aug 12, 2014, at 7:23 AM, Kurt Kroeber kurt.kroe...@actifio.com wrote:
 
 To elaborate John's point on the importing of formats from one file to 
 another, the problem seems to stems from the fact that when the template is 
 applied to another document almost all of the formats are applied except for 
 one -- the Room for Side Heads object property is disabled for the text frame 
 on the body page.  However, all of the template format settings look fine on 
 the master pages.  Even when I reapplied the master page this still did not 
 change the Room for Side Heads text object property on the body page.  To 
 resolve this problem,  I selected the Object Properties for the text frame on 
 the body page and enabled Room for Side Heads.  This manual updating of the 
 text object property seemed to do the trick. 
 
 I am not sure if this Room for Side Heads object property issue is with 
 FrameMaker; it should accept 100% of the object property settings from a 
 template file.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Kurt
 
 
 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:37 AM, John Sgammato john.sgamm...@actifio.com 
 wrote:
 Our Marketing group wants us to use new templates that have room for a 
 sidebar. We won't actually use the sidebar for anything, and it's OK for 
 titles, images, and tables to extend into the sidebar. We may put notes over 
 there.
 We have been able to do this with the Room for Sideheads feature, and we're 
 pretty happy with the look. But when we import formats from one file to 
 another, all the formats come over as expected except for the sideheads 
 setting. 
 Is this a bug? A feature we don't understand? Has anyone dealt with this? 
 How can we import that sidehead setting along with the rest of the settings?
 
 -- 
 
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 e john.sgamm...@actifio.com  c 508.927.2083  
 t @actifiodocs 
 333 Wyman Street, Waltham, MA 02451
 
 
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Re: importing master pages, but not getting Room for Sideheads (FM12 unst)

2014-08-12 Thread Kurt Kroeber
Thanks Ed for the clarification and pointer to this behaviour in Frame.
And thanks to everyone for the quick response.

Regards,

Kurt


On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Ed Nodland enodl...@gmail.com wrote:

 1) I opened my FM file with Room for Side Heads select,
 2) I removed the sideheads option
 3) The sidebar was gone
 4) I imported my template (sidebar did not return)
 5) Applied masterpages (sidebar did not return)
 6) Manually selected Room for Side Heads (sidebar returned)

 Maybe https://forums.adobe.com/message/4209683 will help.  It says, Sideheads
 are a flow property (effectively a document level property, not any
 individual text frame). If they were enabled in the MasterPage, but not
 showing on the Body pages, then the Body pages had an override (i.e. it was
 turned off there).

 Ed Nodland






 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Kurt Kroeber kurt.kroe...@actifio.com
 wrote:

 To elaborate John's point on the importing of formats from one file to
 another, the problem seems to stems from the fact that when the template is
 applied to another document almost all of the formats are applied except
 for one -- the Room for Side Heads object property is disabled for the text
 frame on the body page.  However, all of the template format settings look
 fine on the master pages.  Even when I reapplied the master page this still
 did not change the Room for Side Heads text object property on the body
 page.  To resolve this problem,  I selected the Object Properties for the
 text frame on the body page and enabled Room for Side Heads.  This manual
 updating of the text object property seemed to do the trick.

 I am not sure if this Room for Side Heads object property issue is with
 FrameMaker; it should accept 100% of the object property settings from a
 template file.

 Thanks,

 Kurt


 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:37 AM, John Sgammato john.sgamm...@actifio.com
  wrote:

 Our Marketing group wants us to use new templates that have room for a
 sidebar. We won't actually use the sidebar for anything, and it's OK for
 titles, images, and tables to extend into the sidebar. We may put notes
 over there.
 We have been able to do this with the Room for Sideheads feature, and
 we're pretty happy with the look. But when we import formats from one file
 to another, all the formats come over as expected except for the sideheads
 setting.
 Is this a bug? A feature we don't understand? Has anyone dealt with
 this? How can we import that sidehead setting along with the rest of the
 settings?

 --

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Re: importing master pages, but not getting Room for Sideheads (FM12 unst)

2014-08-12 Thread Ed Nodland
1) I opened my FM file with Room for Side Heads select,
2) I removed the sideheads option
3) The sidebar was gone
4) I imported my template (sidebar did not return)
5) Applied masterpages (sidebar did not return)
6) Manually selected Room for Side Heads (sidebar returned)

Maybe https://forums.adobe.com/message/4209683 will help.  It says, Sideheads
are a flow property (effectively a document level property, not any
individual text frame). If they were enabled in the MasterPage, but not
showing on the Body pages, then the Body pages had an override (i.e. it was
turned off there).

Ed Nodland






On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Kurt Kroeber kurt.kroe...@actifio.com
wrote:

 To elaborate John's point on the importing of formats from one file to
 another, the problem seems to stems from the fact that when the template is
 applied to another document almost all of the formats are applied except
 for one -- the Room for Side Heads object property is disabled for the text
 frame on the body page.  However, all of the template format settings look
 fine on the master pages.  Even when I reapplied the master page this still
 did not change the Room for Side Heads text object property on the body
 page.  To resolve this problem,  I selected the Object Properties for the
 text frame on the body page and enabled Room for Side Heads.  This manual
 updating of the text object property seemed to do the trick.

 I am not sure if this Room for Side Heads object property issue is with
 FrameMaker; it should accept 100% of the object property settings from a
 template file.

 Thanks,

 Kurt


 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:37 AM, John Sgammato john.sgamm...@actifio.com
 wrote:

 Our Marketing group wants us to use new templates that have room for a
 sidebar. We won't actually use the sidebar for anything, and it's OK for
 titles, images, and tables to extend into the sidebar. We may put notes
 over there.
 We have been able to do this with the Room for Sideheads feature, and
 we're pretty happy with the look. But when we import formats from one file
 to another, all the formats come over as expected except for the sideheads
 setting.
 Is this a bug? A feature we don't understand? Has anyone dealt with this?
 How can we import that sidehead setting along with the rest of the settings?

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