Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5

2014-12-12 Thread David Spreadbury
Maxwell,It would be great to be able to download the PDF or link to the HTML version but both links above don't work.My preference would be the PDF. I prefer to have a local copy.The HTML5 link does work. On Friday, December 12, 2014 12:53 PM, Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.com wrote:

Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5

2014-12-12 Thread Linda Rose
Hi Maxwell I'd love to see the HTML 5 Responsive layout but neither link works for me in FF or Chrome. Linda On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.com wrote: Adobe has updated online Documentation for FrameMaker 12 (click the HELP button to try it out.) The

Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5

2014-12-12 Thread Scott Prentice
Try the non-stage versions of the URLs .. http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/12.0/Help/Using/index.html#t=using-framemaker-12%2Ffrm_getstarted_gs%2Ffrm_getstarted_gs-1.htm http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/12.0/Help/using-framemaker-12.pdf Cheers! ...scott On 12/12/14 11:17 AM,

Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5

2014-12-12 Thread Robert Lauriston
That obfuscated link resolves to http://help.stage.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/12.0/Help/Using/index.html which is presumably your internal-only staging area. If you remove the stage. it works correctly. On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.com wrote: Here are the

RE: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5

2014-12-12 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann
@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5 That obfuscated link resolves to http://help.stage.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/12.0/Help/Using/index.html which is presumably your internal-only staging area. If you remove the stage. it works

RE: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5

2014-12-12 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann
Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 11:37 AM To: Maxwell Hoffmann; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5 That obfuscated link resolves to http://help.stage.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/12.0/Help/Using/index.html

Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5

2014-12-12 Thread Robert Lauriston
The search seems to be broken, e.g. the results for footnote do not include this Create and edit footnotes topic: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WS6C3D24E6-2965-48bb-B6CF-50D1439AEB01.html Or maybe you just cut some content. Searching for endnote finds nothing. Something's wrong

Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5

2014-12-12 Thread David Spreadbury
Robert,Comparing the TOC of the New Using Framemaker 12 against the TOC of the one you referenced this morning (see below) concerning endnotes, there are several sections missing in the New version.Maybe keeping both links available would be a temporary fix.Just like I keep a copy of the

Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5

2014-12-12 Thread Steve Rickaby
I have not looked at the content yet, but Adobe documentation should be an exemplar, and IMHO a four-level TOC is not. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to

Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5

2014-12-12 Thread David Spreadbury
From the size of the New version, compared to the Old version, I would expect a lot of good stuff.Old has just shy of 700 pages. New has just shy of 1000 pages.That's 300 pages of information that wasn't available in the Old.I have to ask, why are there items missing from the New? On

RE: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5

2014-12-12 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann
, 2014 12:03 PM To: Maxwell Hoffmann; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5 The search seems to be broken, e.g. the results for footnote do not include this Create and edit footnotes topic: http://help.adobe.com/en_US

Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5

2014-12-12 Thread Robert Lauriston
The new version has larger type, more white space, more headings, and lower dpi for screen shots, so, for example, the content on page 347 of the new version takes only about 3/4 of page 230 in the old version. On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 12:18 PM, David Spreadbury dspre...@yahoo.com wrote: From the

Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5

2014-12-12 Thread Mike Wickham
Are you sure the items are missing? The blog about the new help files said: */Content organization:/* FrameMaker is a powerful product packed with rich functionality. However, not all users use all of its functionality all the time. While improving the guide, we made a conscious attempt to

Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5

2014-12-12 Thread Robert Lauriston
The word endnote does not appear in the new PDF, so that's pretty definitely gone. On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com wrote: Are you sure the items are missing? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as

Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5

2014-12-12 Thread David Spreadbury
Just compare the TOC of the help file that ships with Frame 12 against the TOC of the new guide.The chapter that includes endnotes, in the current version, is missing several sections in the new version.A simple search of the new version for 'endnotes' will come back with Not Found. On