Re: trouble adding extra line to master page header

2007-11-07 Thread Stuart Rogers

Jeremy H. Griffith wrote:

The trouble with this solution is that you have now removed the
line from every other header that has just one line.  If you apply 
the change only to the current instance to avoid that, you have 
an override, which will disappear if the formats are updated from 
a template.  This isn't good practice.


Another way for the OP to handle this problem is to keep the header 
one paragraph, but add a second line to it using Shift-Enter.  Then
the blue line will remain below the second text line, and no changes 
to the format are required.




An alternative would be to draw the blue line along the bottom of the 
header frame on the master page(s) and leave the pgf tags with no Frame 
Below referenced.  Then it wouldn't matter if the header content was one 
line or two, and you wouldn't need to add blank lines.


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RE: trouble adding extra line to master page header

2007-11-06 Thread Lester C. Smalley
The ruling line is most likely now behind the expanded header text
frame.  

You can grab it by dragging a box around it - be sure you start outside
the header text frame and do not completely enclose the header frame
with the selection rectangle.

Or, you can select the header frame and send it to the back via the
graphics menu.  You will then be able to simply click to select the
line.

Another possibility, although it does not seem as if this is the case
from your description, is that the 'header' paragraph format has a
frame below set to display the line.  If that is the case, simple add
your desired second line of information in the header and the line
should reposition automatically.

I find the latter case to be 'poor design' as this will result in an
uneven appearance if you have some master pages with single-line headers
and some with double-line headers.

On Monday, November 05, 2007 05:21 AM, David Kuhn wrote:

| I need to modify a master page header.
| 
| The modification includes adding a 2nd line to the header and 
| inserting the book name variable.
| 
| I can expand the background text frame and insert the variable.
| 
| The problem is that the blue line that was below the 1st 
| header line now exists between the two header lines.
| 
| I need to delete it, but I can't seem to grab it.
| 
| Any tips?
| 
|  
| David Kuhn
| Technical Writer

- Lester 
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Re: trouble adding extra line to master page header

2007-11-06 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 07:43:41 -0800, Steven Miller 
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That blue line is included with the header paragraph, via the paragraph
designer Advanced tab, in the Frame Below drop-down.  That setting
grabs a frame containing the blue line from your reference page. 

Right.

To add another line of text to the header, create a new second header
line paragraph style and add your blue line to the Frame Below that
paragraph. Select None for the Frame Below the first paragraph line.

The trouble with this solution is that you have now removed the
line from every other header that has just one line.  If you apply 
the change only to the current instance to avoid that, you have 
an override, which will disappear if the formats are updated from 
a template.  This isn't good practice.

Another way for the OP to handle this problem is to keep the header 
one paragraph, but add a second line to it using Shift-Enter.  Then
the blue line will remain below the second text line, and no changes 
to the format are required.

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.omsys.com/
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