Structured Frame Help

2009-03-06 Thread roconnor1
Hi guys
I haven't used Framemaker for about 7 yrs (unfortunately) and only used 
unstructured Frame in V5.5

Does anyone out there have some source templates, or a small book example of a 
structured doc? I need to get up and racing pretty quickly and I figure using 
an existing example is always the easiest way.

I have Framemaker 7.1 right now but will be moving to V8.0 next week and 
utilising the DITA mapping as well. So rather than panicking I'm screaming for 
help.

any help is appreciated.
bye for now
Rose




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RE: Structured Frame Help

2009-03-06 Thread David Spreadbury
Rose,
Try Googling for framemaker tutorials. 

One of the hits will take you to
http://www.io.com/~tcm/etwr2472/guides/frame/frame_basics.html. A fairly
decent online tutorial.

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Hi guys
I haven't used Framemaker for about 7 yrs (unfortunately) and only used 
unstructured Frame in V5.5

Does anyone out there have some source templates, or a small book example of
a 
structured doc? I need to get up and racing pretty quickly and I figure
using 
an existing example is always the easiest way.

I have Framemaker 7.1 right now but will be moving to V8.0 next week and 
utilising the DITA mapping as well. So rather than panicking I'm screaming
for 
help.

any help is appreciated.
bye for now
Rose




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Re: Structured Frame Help

2009-03-06 Thread Scott Prentice
Hi Rose...

Sorry to have not responded sooner.

If you're on FM7.1 and want to start messing around with DITA authoring, 
you can use our free version of DITA-FMx (supports FM7.1 and 7.2). The 
0.0 version of DITA-FMx provides you with structured apps and some 
sample files and will let you get into DITA authoring in Frame. It 
doesn't offer all of the features that are in the 1.0 version of 
DITA-FMx (but provides more authoring features than you'll find in FM8).

When you do get FM8 up and running, you might want to check out DITA-FMx 
1.0 which provides integrated access to the Open Toolkit plus lots of 
nice authoring features. If you're using DITA-FMx (any version) you can 
email us for help.  :)

Cheers,

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892



roconn...@netspace.net.au wrote:
 Hi guys
 I haven't used Framemaker for about 7 yrs (unfortunately) and only used 
 unstructured Frame in V5.5

 Does anyone out there have some source templates, or a small book example of 
 a 
 structured doc? I need to get up and racing pretty quickly and I figure using 
 an existing example is always the easiest way.

 I have Framemaker 7.1 right now but will be moving to V8.0 next week and 
 utilising the DITA mapping as well. So rather than panicking I'm screaming 
 for 
 help.

 any help is appreciated.
 bye for now
 Rose



 
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Re: Structured Frame Help

2009-03-06 Thread Sarah O'Keefe
Hi Rose,

All of our training materials are available here (two unstructured and
three structured courses):

http://wiki.scriptorium.com

The examples are written for v7 but will also work in v8.

As the content is editable, we hope that the community will participate
in updating this resource for v9.

Regards,

Sarah O'Keefe

roconn...@netspace.net.au wrote:
 Hi guys
 I haven't used Framemaker for about 7 yrs (unfortunately) and only used 
 unstructured Frame in V5.5

 Does anyone out there have some source templates, or a small book example of 
 a 
 structured doc? I need to get up and racing pretty quickly and I figure using 
 an existing example is always the easiest way.

 I have Framemaker 7.1 right now but will be moving to V8.0 next week and 
 utilising the DITA mapping as well. So rather than panicking I'm screaming 
 for 
 help.

 any help is appreciated.
 bye for now
 Rose



 
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Re: Structured Frame Help

2009-03-06 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu,  5 Mar 2009 10:52:04 +1100, roconn...@netspace.net.au wrote:

I haven't used Framemaker for about 7 yrs (unfortunately) and only used 
unstructured Frame in V5.5

Does anyone out there have some source templates, or a small book example of a 
structured doc? I need to get up and racing pretty quickly and I figure using 
an existing example is always the easiest way.

I have Framemaker 7.1 right now but will be moving to V8.0 next week and 
utilising the DITA mapping as well. So rather than panicking I'm screaming for 
help.

If you want to move to DITA in structured Frame, there are
two basic methods.  With Frame alone, you can prepare a 
conversion table and get DITA 1.0 structure in Frame 7.x
and 8.  If you want DITA 1.1, which we highly recommend 
over 1.0, you need Frame 9, *or* Leximation's DITA-FMx,
which now supports 1.1 in FM7.2, FM8 and FM9 (but not 
in FM 7.1).  Actually, you need DITA-FMx in any case,
just to fix Frame's numerous DITA bugs:
  http://leximation.com/dita-fmx/beta.php
(And Scott's support is excellent!)

You can also use Mif2Go to convert UNstructured Frame
files (from any version since 5.5.6) to DITA 1.1 (or
1.0, if necessary).  Most people seem to find that much
easier than the conversion-table route (where you can't
get to 1.1 without FM9 in any case).  There's a free
unlimited demo version of Mif2Go at:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm

So what we'd suggest is use Mif2Go to get from your
FM 7.1 docs to DITA 1.1, then when you have Frame 8,
use DITA-FMx 1.0 to move the DITA files into (and
out of) structured Frame.

Once you are in structured Frame, you'll want to make 
your PDFs within Frame, not via the DITA-OT, unless you
also want to become an XSLT and Java programmer.  g
And you can still use Mif2Go to make on-line HTML help;
it's much faster and easier than the DITA-OT for that.

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  jer...@omsys.com  http://www.omsys.com/
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Structured Frame Help

2009-03-06 Thread David Spreadbury
Rose,
Try Googling for framemaker tutorials. 

One of the hits will take you to
http://www.io.com/~tcm/etwr2472/guides/frame/frame_basics.html. A fairly
decent online tutorial.

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Subject: Structured Frame Help

Hi guys
I haven't used Framemaker for about 7 yrs (unfortunately) and only used 
unstructured Frame in V5.5

Does anyone out there have some source templates, or a small book example of
a 
structured doc? I need to get up and racing pretty quickly and I figure
using 
an existing example is always the easiest way.

I have Framemaker 7.1 right now but will be moving to V8.0 next week and 
utilising the DITA mapping as well. So rather than panicking I'm screaming
for 
help.

any help is appreciated.
bye for now
Rose




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Structured Frame Help

2009-03-06 Thread Scott Prentice
Hi Rose...

Sorry to have not responded sooner.

If you're on FM7.1 and want to start messing around with DITA authoring, 
you can use our free version of DITA-FMx (supports FM7.1 and 7.2). The 
0.0 version of DITA-FMx provides you with structured apps and some 
sample files and will let you get into DITA authoring in Frame. It 
doesn't offer all of the features that are in the 1.0 version of 
DITA-FMx (but provides more authoring features than you'll find in FM8).

When you do get FM8 up and running, you might want to check out DITA-FMx 
1.0 which provides integrated access to the Open Toolkit plus lots of 
nice authoring features. If you're using DITA-FMx (any version) you can 
email us for help.  :)

Cheers,

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892



roconnor1 at netspace.net.au wrote:
> Hi guys
> I haven't used Framemaker for about 7 yrs (unfortunately) and only used 
> unstructured Frame in V5.5
>
> Does anyone out there have some source templates, or a small book example of 
> a 
> structured doc? I need to get up and racing pretty quickly and I figure using 
> an existing example is always the easiest way.
>
> I have Framemaker 7.1 right now but will be moving to V8.0 next week and 
> utilising the DITA mapping as well. So rather than panicking I'm screaming 
> for 
> help.
>
> any help is appreciated.
> bye for now
> Rose
>
>
>
> 
> This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au
>
>   


Structured Frame Help

2009-03-06 Thread Sarah O'Keefe
Hi Rose,

All of our training materials are available here (two unstructured and
three structured courses):

http://wiki.scriptorium.com

The examples are written for v7 but will also work in v8.

As the content is editable, we hope that the community will participate
in updating this resource for v9.

Regards,

Sarah O'Keefe

roconnor1 at netspace.net.au wrote:
> Hi guys
> I haven't used Framemaker for about 7 yrs (unfortunately) and only used 
> unstructured Frame in V5.5
>
> Does anyone out there have some source templates, or a small book example of 
> a 
> structured doc? I need to get up and racing pretty quickly and I figure using 
> an existing example is always the easiest way.
>
> I have Framemaker 7.1 right now but will be moving to V8.0 next week and 
> utilising the DITA mapping as well. So rather than panicking I'm screaming 
> for 
> help.
>
> any help is appreciated.
> bye for now
> Rose
>
>
>
> 
> This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au
>
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Structured Frame Help

2009-03-06 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu,  5 Mar 2009 10:52:04 +1100, roconnor1 at netspace.net.au wrote:

>I haven't used Framemaker for about 7 yrs (unfortunately) and only used 
>unstructured Frame in V5.5
>
>Does anyone out there have some source templates, or a small book example of a 
>structured doc? I need to get up and racing pretty quickly and I figure using 
>an existing example is always the easiest way.
>
>I have Framemaker 7.1 right now but will be moving to V8.0 next week and 
>utilising the DITA mapping as well. So rather than panicking I'm screaming for 
>help.

If you want to move to DITA in structured Frame, there are
two basic methods.  With Frame alone, you can prepare a 
"conversion table" and get DITA 1.0 structure in Frame 7.x
and 8.  If you want DITA 1.1, which we highly recommend 
over 1.0, you need Frame 9, *or* Leximation's DITA-FMx,
which now supports 1.1 in FM7.2, FM8 and FM9 (but not 
in FM 7.1).  Actually, you need DITA-FMx in any case,
just to fix Frame's numerous DITA bugs:
  http://leximation.com/dita-fmx/beta.php
(And Scott's support is excellent!)

You can also use Mif2Go to convert UNstructured Frame
files (from any version since 5.5.6) to DITA 1.1 (or
1.0, if necessary).  Most people seem to find that much
easier than the conversion-table route (where you can't
get to 1.1 without FM9 in any case).  There's a free
unlimited demo version of Mif2Go at:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm

So what we'd suggest is use Mif2Go to get from your
FM 7.1 docs to DITA 1.1, then when you have Frame 8,
use DITA-FMx 1.0 to move the DITA files into (and
out of) structured Frame.

Once you are in structured Frame, you'll want to make 
your PDFs within Frame, not via the DITA-OT, unless you
also want to become an XSLT and Java programmer.  
And you can still use Mif2Go to make on-line HTML help;
it's much faster and easier than the DITA-OT for that.

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/


Structured Frame Help

2009-03-05 Thread roconn...@netspace.net.au
Hi guys
I haven't used Framemaker for about 7 yrs (unfortunately) and only used 
unstructured Frame in V5.5

Does anyone out there have some source templates, or a small book example of a 
structured doc? I need to get up and racing pretty quickly and I figure using 
an existing example is always the easiest way.

I have Framemaker 7.1 right now but will be moving to V8.0 next week and 
utilising the DITA mapping as well. So rather than panicking I'm screaming for 
help.

any help is appreciated.
bye for now
Rose




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