Structured FrameMaker and MS Word XML Import

2006-08-04 Thread Marcus Carr

David Versdahl wrote:

> We are embarking on a new project with a new 1200 page book. There are two
> audiences for this book. One is a subset of the other. The request is that
> we base this book on a single MS Word document that is maintained by one or
> engineers at different sites. The content is constantly changing with the
> addition of new material and the excising of outdated information.

So you're a large company with big publications containing frequently 
changing data maintained by distributed editors? You seriously need a 
collaborative authoring environment. My company sells PageSeeder 
(http://www.pageseeder.com) - with it, you would:

  o get the distributed authors to update the data through a
Word-like interface running in a web browser, so requiring no
client-side software,

  o when they finish, you'd save the data as XML and load it into
FrameMaker.

This would provide you with full auditability and security, as well as 
the opportunity for the authors (and anyone else they may care to 
invite) to carry on threaded discussions within the documents, all 
carried out through whatever email client they choose to use.

It's all about using the right tool for the job. You shouldn't have too 
much trouble convincing a semiconductor company of that.


-- 
Regards,

Marcus Carr  email:  mcarr at allette.com.au
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Structured FrameMaker and MS Word XML Import

2006-08-03 Thread Marcus Carr


David Versdahl wrote:


We are embarking on a new project with a new 1200 page book. There are two
audiences for this book. One is a subset of the other. The request is that
we base this book on a single MS Word document that is maintained by one or
engineers at different sites. The content is constantly changing with the
addition of new material and the excising of outdated information.


So you're a large company with big publications containing frequently 
changing data maintained by distributed editors? You seriously need a 
collaborative authoring environment. My company sells PageSeeder 
(http://www.pageseeder.com) - with it, you would:


 o get the distributed authors to update the data through a
   Word-like interface running in a web browser, so requiring no
   client-side software,

 o when they finish, you'd save the data as XML and load it into
   FrameMaker.

This would provide you with full auditability and security, as well as 
the opportunity for the authors (and anyone else they may care to 
invite) to carry on threaded discussions within the documents, all 
carried out through whatever email client they choose to use.


It's all about using the right tool for the job. You shouldn't have too 
much trouble convincing a semiconductor company of that.



--
Regards,

Marcus Carr  email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   - Einstein
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Re: Structured FrameMaker and MS Word XML Import

2006-08-03 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:00:20 -0700, "David Versdahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>We are embarking on a new project with a new 1200 page book. There are two
>audiences for this book. One is a subset of the other. The request is that
>we base this book on a single MS Word document that is maintained by one or
>engineers at different sites. 

That's asking for trouble.  Word is simply incapable of handling
complex 1200-page documents, or even simple 1000-page documents.
It's in enough trouble with simple 300-page documents...  ;-)

>The content is constantly changing with the
>addition of new material and the excising of outdated information. The
>preference is to keep this a FrameMaker document so, we would take this Word
>document and import it in some fashion into FrameMaker. The traditional
>import function is impractical and tedious in this instance.

Consider turning the problem around.  Get the original material
into FrameMaker, preferably as a book consisting of perhaps eight
chapter files, whatever fits the doc structure.  Then you can
readily generate a single PDF.  When you need to furnish it to
the engineers in Word, use Mif2Go to produce the Word doc; many
members of this list do that, and we don't know of a better way
(truly, even if it is our product ;-).  You will get a set of
Word docs, not just one (one per chapter file), but that's what
you need if anyone wants to edit it in Word.  And you can force
Track Changes on, so you can easily see what was altered and
copy/paste it (as PLAIN TEXT) back into the FrameMaker doc.
That way, your writer maintains control of doc integrity, which
we consider very important.  You don't want any old tweak made
by a reviewer to go into the master FrameMaker doc without any
authorial review, now do you?  

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://www.omsys.com/
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Structured FrameMaker and MS Word XML Import

2006-08-03 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:00:20 -0700, "David Versdahl"  wrote:

>We are embarking on a new project with a new 1200 page book. There are two
>audiences for this book. One is a subset of the other. The request is that
>we base this book on a single MS Word document that is maintained by one or
>engineers at different sites. 

That's asking for trouble.  Word is simply incapable of handling
complex 1200-page documents, or even simple 1000-page documents.
It's in enough trouble with simple 300-page documents...  ;-)

>The content is constantly changing with the
>addition of new material and the excising of outdated information. The
>preference is to keep this a FrameMaker document so, we would take this Word
>document and import it in some fashion into FrameMaker. The traditional
>import function is impractical and tedious in this instance.

Consider turning the problem around.  Get the original material
into FrameMaker, preferably as a book consisting of perhaps eight
chapter files, whatever fits the doc structure.  Then you can
readily generate a single PDF.  When you need to furnish it to
the engineers in Word, use Mif2Go to produce the Word doc; many
members of this list do that, and we don't know of a better way
(truly, even if it is our product ;-).  You will get a set of
Word docs, not just one (one per chapter file), but that's what
you need if anyone wants to edit it in Word.  And you can force
Track Changes on, so you can easily see what was altered and
copy/paste it (as PLAIN TEXT) back into the FrameMaker doc.
That way, your writer maintains control of doc integrity, which
we consider very important.  You don't want any old tweak made
by a reviewer to go into the master FrameMaker doc without any
authorial review, now do you?  

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/



Structured FrameMaker and MS Word XML Import

2006-08-03 Thread David Versdahl
Hello Everyone,

Currently we use standard FrameMaker to produce large (800-1000 page)
extremely technical documents. We begin them from scratch using input from a
wide variety of engineering sources. As a part of the book there are many
Visio images and a tremendous diversity of tables, equations, and cross
references.

We are embarking on a new project with a new 1200 page book. There are two
audiences for this book. One is a subset of the other. The request is that
we base this book on a single MS Word document that is maintained by one or
engineers at different sites. The content is constantly changing with the
addition of new material and the excising of outdated information. The
preference is to keep this a FrameMaker document so, we would take this Word
document and import it in some fashion into FrameMaker. The traditional
import function is impractical and tedious in this instance.

Our initial thought is to take the Word document and save it as XML, develop
an appropriate schema, and then import this XML into a structured FrameMaker
application. 

My question to you is whether or not this is a reasonable approach. Will it
work? If it will, what are the gotchas? Or, should we take the Word XML
output and work exclusively with an XML editor that ports to PDF (our
primary output)?

Your thoughts and suggestions are appreciated.

Sincerely,

David Versdahl
Technical Writer, SR
Cypress Semiconductor
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Structured FrameMaker and MS Word XML Import

2006-08-03 Thread David Versdahl
Hello Everyone,

Currently we use standard FrameMaker to produce large (800-1000 page)
extremely technical documents. We begin them from scratch using input from a
wide variety of engineering sources. As a part of the book there are many
Visio images and a tremendous diversity of tables, equations, and cross
references.

We are embarking on a new project with a new 1200 page book. There are two
audiences for this book. One is a subset of the other. The request is that
we base this book on a single MS Word document that is maintained by one or
engineers at different sites. The content is constantly changing with the
addition of new material and the excising of outdated information. The
preference is to keep this a FrameMaker document so, we would take this Word
document and import it in some fashion into FrameMaker. The traditional
import function is impractical and tedious in this instance.

Our initial thought is to take the Word document and save it as XML, develop
an appropriate schema, and then import this XML into a structured FrameMaker
application. 

My question to you is whether or not this is a reasonable approach. Will it
work? If it will, what are the gotchas? Or, should we take the Word XML
output and work exclusively with an XML editor that ports to PDF (our
primary output)?

Your thoughts and suggestions are appreciated.

Sincerely,

David Versdahl
Technical Writer, SR
Cypress Semiconductor