Re: Table Cell Alignment
Lin Surasky wrote: You're right. It's not touching, but it's close. Even if it's 4 pt from the border, it's still not centered. And I did double-check the table definition, and no negative numbers are used. The mis-alignment lessens as the rows get taller; the worst offender is with the row that's a single line tall. (Thanks for keeping me honest...) Hi Lin, Just to ensure absolute clarity: Richard said to double-check the Table Cell tab of the *Paragraph* designer; you say you checked the table definition, which implies the Table designer. You have checked both places, right? (If you're still stuck and want to send me the table off-list, I'll see if I can spot anything...) -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com It is not enough that I succeed. Others must fail. -- Oscar Wilde ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Table Cell Alignment
At 10:01 -0400 13/9/07, Stuart Rogers wrote: Just to ensure absolute clarity: Richard said to double-check the Table Cell tab of the *Paragraph* designer; you say you checked the table definition, which implies the Table designer. You have checked both places, right? Just to underline what Stuart said, the positioning of text within cells is controlled by a number of interacting factors: . The table cell margin settings on the Basic pane of the Table Designer . The cell margin settings for the paragraph tag used in the cells, on the Table Cell pane of Paragraph Designer . Any override settings you might have set up in the Row Format dialog There may be others. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Table Cell Alignment
Lin Surasky wrote: > You're right. It's not touching, but it's close. Even if it's 4 pt from > the border, it's still not centered. And I did double-check the table > definition, and no negative numbers are used. The mis-alignment lessens > as the rows get taller; the worst offender is with the row that's a > single line tall. > > (Thanks for keeping me honest...) > Hi Lin, Just to ensure absolute clarity: Richard said to double-check the Table Cell tab of the *Paragraph* designer; you say you checked the "table definition," which implies the Table designer. You have checked both places, right? (If you're still stuck and want to send me the table off-list, I'll see if I can spot anything...) -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "It is not enough that I succeed. Others must fail." -- Oscar Wilde
Table Cell Alignment
At 10:01 -0400 13/9/07, Stuart Rogers wrote: >Just to ensure absolute clarity: Richard said to double-check the Table Cell >tab of the *Paragraph* designer; you say you checked the "table definition," >which implies the Table designer. You have checked both places, right? Just to underline what Stuart said, the positioning of text within cells is controlled by a number of interacting factors: . The table cell margin settings on the Basic pane of the Table Designer . The cell margin settings for the paragraph tag used in the cells, on the Table Cell pane of Paragraph Designer . Any override settings you might have set up in the Row Format dialog There may be others. -- Steve
Table Cell Alignment
Hi all- Is there a known issue with vertical alignment in table cells (FM 7.2 on Windows XP, unstructured)? I don't use tables very often, but I have a small one that has a few narrow columns that contain asterisks to indicate whether a condition is met, and one column of text that describes the solution based on where the asterisks fall. I want the asterisks to be centered in the table cell, so I assigned them all a paragraph tag that defines both their horizontal and vertical alignment as centered. What I'm getting is top alignment for the first row (below the header row and the only single-line row in the table), center alignment for the third row, which is the tallest row, and top-to-center-well-I-guess-it's-close-enough alignment for the rest of the rows. The default table cell margins are all even (4.0 pt), and there are no format overrides, either at the paragraph level or at the table format level (as far as I can tell...). What else should I be looking at? Thanks Lin ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Table Cell Alignment
Hi, Stuart- You know, I realized this after I sent the message off. But I substituted Xs for the asterisks and it doesn't change things. The Xs/asterisks are literally touching the top rule of the table cell. The anchored frame idea is a good way to work around it, although if there's a setting I'm missing, I'd prefer to fix it... Thanks! Lin -Original Message- From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:00 PM To: Lin Surasky Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Table Cell Alignment Lin Surasky wrote: Hi all- Is there a known issue with vertical alignment in table cells (FM 7.2 on Windows XP, unstructured)? I don't use tables very often, but I have a small one that has a few narrow columns that contain asterisks to indicate whether a condition is met, and one column of text that describes the solution based on where the asterisks fall. I want the asterisks to be centered in the table cell, so I assigned them all a paragraph tag that defines both their horizontal and vertical alignment as centered. What I'm getting is top alignment for the first row (below the header row and the only single-line row in the table), center alignment for the third row, which is the tallest row, and top-to-center-well-I-guess-it's-close-enough alignment for the rest of the rows. The default table cell margins are all even (4.0 pt), and there are no format overrides, either at the paragraph level or at the table format level (as far as I can tell...). What else should I be looking at? Lin, I think what you're seeing is just the fact the an asterisk is (in most fonts) located at the top of the cap height or the ascender height, in other words, not vertically centred within its own character space. The asterisk *looks* centred in the tallest row only because your eye can't judge precisely enough to see that it's slightly too high; in the shortest row, the difference is more obvious. You could centre an asterisk as a text line in a small anchored frame (maybe tweaking the A-frame's Distance above baseline), then copy/paste into your cells. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com It is not enough that I succeed. Others must fail. -- Oscar Wilde ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Table Cell Alignment
Well, unless Adobe broke something in FM7.2, I think there is something peculiar going on with your document. I have FM7.1 on my Windows XP laptop, and constructed a test table similar to what you have described. It works perfectly. All asterisks are (almost) centered both horizontally and vertically, and move up or down as the number of lines in the description column contract or expand. Was the original table imported from Word, by any chance? If so, you might want to try converting the table to text and then back to a table, then re-tagging the cells, all of which *should* get rid of any lingering Word weirdness. -Fred Ridder From: Lin Surasky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stuart Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Table Cell Alignment Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:03:20 -0500 Hi, Stuart- You know, I realized this after I sent the message off. But I substituted Xs for the asterisks and it doesn't change things. The Xs/asterisks are literally touching the top rule of the table cell. The anchored frame idea is a good way to work around it, although if there's a setting I'm missing, I'd prefer to fix it... Thanks! Lin -Original Message- From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:00 PM To: Lin Surasky Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Table Cell Alignment Lin Surasky wrote: Hi all- Is there a known issue with vertical alignment in table cells (FM 7.2 on Windows XP, unstructured)? I don't use tables very often, but I have a small one that has a few narrow columns that contain asterisks to indicate whether a condition is met, and one column of text that describes the solution based on where the asterisks fall. I want the asterisks to be centered in the table cell, so I assigned them all a paragraph tag that defines both their horizontal and vertical alignment as centered. What I'm getting is top alignment for the first row (below the header row and the only single-line row in the table), center alignment for the third row, which is the tallest row, and top-to-center-well-I-guess-it's-close-enough alignment for the rest of the rows. The default table cell margins are all even (4.0 pt), and there are no format overrides, either at the paragraph level or at the table format level (as far as I can tell...). What else should I be looking at? Lin, I think what you're seeing is just the fact the an asterisk is (in most fonts) located at the top of the cap height or the ascender height, in other words, not vertically centred within its own character space. The asterisk *looks* centred in the tallest row only because your eye can't judge precisely enough to see that it's slightly too high; in the shortest row, the difference is more obvious. You could centre an asterisk as a text line in a small anchored frame (maybe tweaking the A-frame's Distance above baseline), then copy/paste into your cells. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com It is not enough that I succeed. Others must fail. -- Oscar Wilde _ A place for moms to take a break! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Table Cell Alignment
Nope, no Word weirdness. I created the table from scratch in Frame. There must be a setting someplace that I'm missing -Original Message- From: Fred Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:21 PM To: Lin Surasky Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Table Cell Alignment Well, unless Adobe broke something in FM7.2, I think there is something peculiar going on with your document. I have FM7.1 on my Windows XP laptop, and constructed a test table similar to what you have described. It works perfectly. All asterisks are (almost) centered both horizontally and vertically, and move up or down as the number of lines in the description column contract or expand. Was the original table imported from Word, by any chance? If so, you might want to try converting the table to text and then back to a table, then re-tagging the cells, all of which *should* get rid of any lingering Word weirdness. -Fred Ridder From: Lin Surasky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stuart Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Table Cell Alignment Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:03:20 -0500 Hi, Stuart- You know, I realized this after I sent the message off. But I substituted Xs for the asterisks and it doesn't change things. The Xs/asterisks are literally touching the top rule of the table cell. The anchored frame idea is a good way to work around it, although if there's a setting I'm missing, I'd prefer to fix it... Thanks! Lin -Original Message- From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:00 PM To: Lin Surasky Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Table Cell Alignment Lin Surasky wrote: Hi all- Is there a known issue with vertical alignment in table cells (FM 7.2 on Windows XP, unstructured)? I don't use tables very often, but I have a small one that has a few narrow columns that contain asterisks to indicate whether a condition is met, and one column of text that describes the solution based on where the asterisks fall. I want the asterisks to be centered in the table cell, so I assigned them all a paragraph tag that defines both their horizontal and vertical alignment as centered. What I'm getting is top alignment for the first row (below the header row and the only single-line row in the table), center alignment for the third row, which is the tallest row, and top-to-center-well-I-guess-it's-close-enough alignment for the rest of the rows. The default table cell margins are all even (4.0 pt), and there are no format overrides, either at the paragraph level or at the table format level (as far as I can tell...). What else should I be looking at? Lin, I think what you're seeing is just the fact the an asterisk is (in most fonts) located at the top of the cap height or the ascender height, in other words, not vertically centred within its own character space. The asterisk *looks* centred in the tallest row only because your eye can't judge precisely enough to see that it's slightly too high; in the shortest row, the difference is more obvious. You could centre an asterisk as a text line in a small anchored frame (maybe tweaking the A-frame's Distance above baseline), then copy/paste into your cells. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com It is not enough that I succeed. Others must fail. -- Oscar Wilde _ A place for moms to take a break! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Table Cell Alignment
Lin Surasky wrote: You know, I realized this after I sent the message off. But I substituted Xs for the asterisks and it doesn't change things. The Xs/asterisks are literally touching the top rule of the table cell. Touching the top rule? Something's wrong there! You said earlier that the table's default cell margins were set to 4 pts, so the first pgf in the cell should be at least 4 pts below the rule, regardless of its alignment setting. The only thing I can think of that would change this is the Cell Margins settings on the Table Cell tab of the Paragraph Designer. If Top were set to a negative number ... Worth a look. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Table Cell Alignment
You're right. It's not touching, but it's close. Even if it's 4 pt from the border, it's still not centered. And I did double-check the table definition, and no negative numbers are used. The mis-alignment lessens as the rows get taller; the worst offender is with the row that's a single line tall. (Thanks for keeping me honest...) -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:45 PM To: Lin Surasky Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Table Cell Alignment Lin Surasky wrote: You know, I realized this after I sent the message off. But I substituted Xs for the asterisks and it doesn't change things. The Xs/asterisks are literally touching the top rule of the table cell. Touching the top rule? Something's wrong there! You said earlier that the table's default cell margins were set to 4 pts, so the first pgf in the cell should be at least 4 pts below the rule, regardless of its alignment setting. The only thing I can think of that would change this is the Cell Margins settings on the Table Cell tab of the Paragraph Designer. If Top were set to a negative number ... Worth a look. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Table Cell Alignment
Hi all- Is there a known issue with vertical alignment in table cells (FM 7.2 on Windows XP, unstructured)? I don't use tables very often, but I have a small one that has a few narrow columns that contain asterisks to indicate whether a condition is met, and one column of text that describes the solution based on where the asterisks fall. I want the asterisks to be centered in the table cell, so I assigned them all a paragraph tag that defines both their horizontal and vertical alignment as centered. What I'm getting is top alignment for the first row (below the header row and the only single-line row in the table), center alignment for the third row, which is the tallest row, and top-to-center-well-I-guess-it's-close-enough alignment for the rest of the rows. The default table cell margins are all even (4.0 pt), and there are no format overrides, either at the paragraph level or at the table format level (as far as I can tell...). What else should I be looking at? Thanks Lin
Table Cell Alignment
Lin Surasky wrote: > Hi all- > > Is there a known issue with vertical alignment in table cells (FM 7.2 on > Windows XP, unstructured)? > > I don't use tables very often, but I have a small one that has a few > narrow columns that contain asterisks to indicate whether a condition is > met, and one column of text that describes the solution based on where > the asterisks fall. > > I want the asterisks to be centered in the table cell, so I assigned > them all a paragraph tag that defines both their horizontal and vertical > alignment as centered. > > What I'm getting is top alignment for the first row (below the header > row and the only single-line row in the table), center alignment for the > third row, which is the tallest row, and > top-to-center-well-I-guess-it's-close-enough alignment for the rest of > the rows. > > The default table cell margins are all even (4.0 pt), and there are no > format overrides, either at the paragraph level or at the table format > level (as far as I can tell...). > > What else should I be looking at? Lin, I think what you're seeing is just the fact the an asterisk is (in most fonts) located at the top of the cap height or the ascender height, in other words, not vertically centred within its own character space. The asterisk *looks* centred in the tallest row only because your eye can't judge precisely enough to see that it's slightly too high; in the shortest row, the difference is more obvious. You could centre an asterisk as a text line in a small anchored frame (maybe tweaking the A-frame's Distance above baseline), then copy/paste into your cells. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "It is not enough that I succeed. Others must fail." -- Oscar Wilde
Table Cell Alignment
Hi, Stuart- You know, I realized this after I sent the message off. But I substituted Xs for the asterisks and it doesn't change things. The Xs/asterisks are literally touching the top rule of the table cell. The anchored frame idea is a good way to work around it, although if there's a setting I'm missing, I'd prefer to fix it... Thanks! Lin > -Original Message- > From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:00 PM > To: Lin Surasky > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Table Cell Alignment > > Lin Surasky wrote: > > Hi all- > > > > Is there a known issue with vertical alignment in table > cells (FM 7.2 > > on Windows XP, unstructured)? > > > > I don't use tables very often, but I have a small one that > has a few > > narrow columns that contain asterisks to indicate whether a > condition > > is met, and one column of text that describes the solution based on > > where the asterisks fall. > > > > I want the asterisks to be centered in the table cell, so I > assigned > > them all a paragraph tag that defines both their horizontal and > > vertical alignment as centered. > > > > What I'm getting is top alignment for the first row (below > the header > > row and the only single-line row in the table), center > alignment for > > the third row, which is the tallest row, and > > top-to-center-well-I-guess-it's-close-enough alignment for > the rest of > > the rows. > > > > The default table cell margins are all even (4.0 pt), and > there are no > > format overrides, either at the paragraph level or at the > table format > > level (as far as I can tell...). > > > > What else should I be looking at? > > Lin, > > I think what you're seeing is just the fact the an asterisk > is (in most > fonts) located at the top of the cap height or the ascender > height, in other words, not vertically centred within its own > character space. > > The asterisk *looks* centred in the tallest row only because > your eye can't judge precisely enough to see that it's > slightly too high; in the shortest row, the difference is > more obvious. > > You could centre an asterisk as a text line in a small > anchored frame (maybe tweaking the A-frame's Distance above > baseline), then copy/paste into your cells. > > HTH, > > -- > Stuart Rogers > Technical Communicator > Phoenix Geophysics Limited > Toronto, ON, Canada > +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 > > srogers phoenix-geophysics com > > "It is not enough that I succeed. > Others must fail." > > -- Oscar Wilde >
Table Cell Alignment
Well, unless Adobe broke something in FM7.2, I think there is something peculiar going on with your document. I have FM7.1 on my Windows XP laptop, and constructed a test table similar to what you have described. It works perfectly. All asterisks are (almost) centered both horizontally and vertically, and move up or down as the number of lines in the description column contract or expand. Was the original table imported from Word, by any chance? If so, you might want to try converting the table to text and then back to a table, then re-tagging the cells, all of which *should* get rid of any lingering Word weirdness. -Fred Ridder >From: "Lin Surasky" >To: "Stuart Rogers" >CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com >Subject: RE: Table Cell Alignment >Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:03:20 -0500 > >Hi, Stuart- > >You know, I realized this after I sent the message off. But I >substituted Xs for the asterisks and it doesn't change things. The >Xs/asterisks are literally touching the top rule of the table cell. > >The anchored frame idea is a good way to work around it, although if >there's a setting I'm missing, I'd prefer to fix it... > >Thanks! >Lin > > > -Original Message- > > From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:00 PM > > To: Lin Surasky > > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > > Subject: Re: Table Cell Alignment > > > > Lin Surasky wrote: > > > Hi all- > > > > > > Is there a known issue with vertical alignment in table > > cells (FM 7.2 > > > on Windows XP, unstructured)? > > > > > > I don't use tables very often, but I have a small one that > > has a few > > > narrow columns that contain asterisks to indicate whether a > > condition > > > is met, and one column of text that describes the solution based on > > > where the asterisks fall. > > > > > > I want the asterisks to be centered in the table cell, so I > > assigned > > > them all a paragraph tag that defines both their horizontal and > > > vertical alignment as centered. > > > > > > What I'm getting is top alignment for the first row (below > > the header > > > row and the only single-line row in the table), center > > alignment for > > > the third row, which is the tallest row, and > > > top-to-center-well-I-guess-it's-close-enough alignment for > > the rest of > > > the rows. > > > > > > The default table cell margins are all even (4.0 pt), and > > there are no > > > format overrides, either at the paragraph level or at the > > table format > > > level (as far as I can tell...). > > > > > > What else should I be looking at? > > > > Lin, > > > > I think what you're seeing is just the fact the an asterisk > > is (in most > > fonts) located at the top of the cap height or the ascender > > height, in other words, not vertically centred within its own > > character space. > > > > The asterisk *looks* centred in the tallest row only because > > your eye can't judge precisely enough to see that it's > > slightly too high; in the shortest row, the difference is > > more obvious. > > > > You could centre an asterisk as a text line in a small > > anchored frame (maybe tweaking the A-frame's Distance above > > baseline), then copy/paste into your cells. > > > > HTH, > > > > -- > > Stuart Rogers > > Technical Communicator > > Phoenix Geophysics Limited > > Toronto, ON, Canada > > +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 > > > > srogers phoenix-geophysics com > > > > "It is not enough that I succeed. > > Others must fail." > > > > -- Oscar Wilde _ A place for moms to take a break! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM=us
Table Cell Alignment
Nope, no Word weirdness. I created the table from scratch in Frame. There must be a setting someplace that I'm missing > -Original Message- > From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docudoc at hotmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:21 PM > To: Lin Surasky > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Table Cell Alignment > > Well, unless Adobe broke something in FM7.2, I think there is > something peculiar going on with your document. > > I have FM7.1 on my Windows XP laptop, and constructed a test > table similar to what you have described. It works perfectly. > All asterisks are (almost) centered both horizontally and > vertically, and move up or down as the number of lines in the > description column contract or expand. > > Was the original table imported from Word, by any chance? If > so, you might want to try converting the table to text and > then back to a table, then re-tagging the cells, all of which > *should* get rid of any lingering Word weirdness. > > -Fred Ridder > > >From: "Lin Surasky" > >To: "Stuart Rogers" > >CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com > >Subject: RE: Table Cell Alignment > >Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:03:20 -0500 > > > >Hi, Stuart- > > > >You know, I realized this after I sent the message off. But I > >substituted Xs for the asterisks and it doesn't change things. The > >Xs/asterisks are literally touching the top rule of the table cell. > > > >The anchored frame idea is a good way to work around it, although if > >there's a setting I'm missing, I'd prefer to fix it... > > > >Thanks! > >Lin > > > > > -Original Message----- > > > From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:00 PM > > > To: Lin Surasky > > > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > > > Subject: Re: Table Cell Alignment > > > > > > Lin Surasky wrote: > > > > Hi all- > > > > > > > > Is there a known issue with vertical alignment in table > > > cells (FM 7.2 > > > > on Windows XP, unstructured)? > > > > > > > > I don't use tables very often, but I have a small one that > > > has a few > > > > narrow columns that contain asterisks to indicate whether a > > > condition > > > > is met, and one column of text that describes the > solution based > > > > on where the asterisks fall. > > > > > > > > I want the asterisks to be centered in the table cell, so I > > > assigned > > > > them all a paragraph tag that defines both their horizontal and > > > > vertical alignment as centered. > > > > > > > > What I'm getting is top alignment for the first row (below > > > the header > > > > row and the only single-line row in the table), center > > > alignment for > > > > the third row, which is the tallest row, and > > > > top-to-center-well-I-guess-it's-close-enough alignment for > > > the rest of > > > > the rows. > > > > > > > > The default table cell margins are all even (4.0 pt), and > > > there are no > > > > format overrides, either at the paragraph level or at the > > > table format > > > > level (as far as I can tell...). > > > > > > > > What else should I be looking at? > > > > > > Lin, > > > > > > I think what you're seeing is just the fact the an > asterisk is (in > > > most > > > fonts) located at the top of the cap height or the > ascender height, > > > in other words, not vertically centred within its own character > > > space. > > > > > > The asterisk *looks* centred in the tallest row only because your > > > eye can't judge precisely enough to see that it's > slightly too high; > > > in the shortest row, the difference is more obvious. > > > > > > You could centre an asterisk as a text line in a small anchored > > > frame (maybe tweaking the A-frame's Distance above > baseline), then > > > copy/paste into your cells. > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > -- > > > Stuart Rogers > > > Technical Communicator > > > Phoenix Geophysics Limited > > > Toronto, ON, Canada > > > +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 > > > > > > srogers phoenix-geophysics com > > > > > > "It is not enough that I succeed. > > > Others must fail." > > > > > > -- Oscar Wilde > > _ > A place for moms to take a break! > http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM=us > >
Table Cell Alignment
Lin Surasky wrote: > You know, I realized this after I sent the message off. But I > substituted Xs for the asterisks and it doesn't change > things. The Xs/asterisks are literally touching the top rule > of the table cell. Touching the top rule? Something's wrong there! You said earlier that the table's default cell margins were set to 4 pts, so the first pgf in the cell should be at least 4 pts below the rule, regardless of its alignment setting. The only thing I can think of that would change this is the Cell Margins settings on the Table Cell tab of the Paragraph Designer. If Top were set to a negative number ... Worth a look. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
Table Cell Alignment
You're right. It's not touching, but it's close. Even if it's 4 pt from the border, it's still not centered. And I did double-check the table definition, and no negative numbers are used. The mis-alignment lessens as the rows get taller; the worst offender is with the row that's a single line tall. (Thanks for keeping me honest...) > -Original Message- > From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.combs at Polycom.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:45 PM > To: Lin Surasky > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Table Cell Alignment > > Lin Surasky wrote: > > > You know, I realized this after I sent the message off. But I > > substituted Xs for the asterisks and it doesn't change things. The > > Xs/asterisks are literally touching the top rule of the table cell. > > Touching the top rule? Something's wrong there! You said > earlier that the table's default cell margins were set to 4 > pts, so the first pgf in the cell should be at least 4 pts > below the rule, regardless of its alignment setting. The only > thing I can think of that would change this is the Cell > Margins settings on the Table Cell tab of the Paragraph > Designer. If Top were set to a negative number ... > > Worth a look. HTH! > > Richard > > > -- > Richard G. Combs > Senior Technical Writer > Polycom, Inc. > richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom > 303-223-5111 > -- > rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom > 303-777-0436 > -- > > > > >
Frame - Table Cell Alignment
Is there a way to align the contents within a table cell to be centered or to be aligned with the bottom of the table cell (as you can do in Word). -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame - Table Cell Alignment
Click in the paragraph in the table cell and open the Paragraph Designer. Go to the Table Cell tab and select the Cell Vertical Alignment setting. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Is there a way to align the contents within a table cell to be centered or to be aligned with the bottom of the table cell (as you can do in Word). -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame - Table Cell Alignment
Is there a way to align the contents within a table cell to be centered or to be aligned with the bottom of the table cell (as you can do in Word). -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson
Frame - Table Cell Alignment
Click in the paragraph in the table cell and open the Paragraph Designer. Go to the Table Cell tab and select the Cell Vertical Alignment setting. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com > Is there a way to align the contents within a table cell to be centered or > to be aligned with the bottom of the table cell (as you can do in Word). > > -- > Regards, > Shmuel Wolfson
