Table continued variable not always working

2008-04-28 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Framers,

Thanks for all the advice about pagination fine tuning. I'll be using that
info soon.

Now, I'm inserting the table continuation variable, and it doesn't always
work (FM 7.0 on Win XP). I've never seen this before.

I change to another variable in the same place, and it works just fine.
Every other variable I insert is fine, but when I return to table cont., it
may or may not work as I look at the table continuing on the next page (I
know that I need to look at the continued part of the table on the next
page). It's very odd. 

I had one working, then I just opened the file, and not it's not any more.

I've moved the table title from the bottom to the top and back. Sometimes
that fixes it, but apparently only temporarily. I've had it happen in two
different tables in two different chapters (both part of the same book). I
just looked at the other one that I'd fixed a few days ago, and it, too, is
no longer working. =:o

Has anyone else seen this? Any fixes? 

~
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RE: Table continued variable not always working

2008-04-28 Thread Tammy Van Boening
Linda,

How long is your table title? If it is too long to add the variable at
the end, FM won't automatically wrap. You have force the table title to
wrap (set the right indent on the Paragraph catalog) and then you will
see the variable again.

TVB 

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Framers,

Thanks for all the advice about pagination fine tuning. I'll be using
that info soon.

Now, I'm inserting the table continuation variable, and it doesn't
always work (FM 7.0 on Win XP). I've never seen this before.

I change to another variable in the same place, and it works just fine.
Every other variable I insert is fine, but when I return to table cont.,
it may or may not work as I look at the table continuing on the next
page (I know that I need to look at the continued part of the table on
the next page). It's very odd. 

I had one working, then I just opened the file, and not it's not any
more.

I've moved the table title from the bottom to the top and back.
Sometimes that fixes it, but apparently only temporarily. I've had it
happen in two different tables in two different chapters (both part of
the same book). I just looked at the other one that I'd fixed a few days
ago, and it, too, is no longer working. =:o

Has anyone else seen this? Any fixes? 

~
Linda G. Gallagher
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RE: Table continued variable not always working

2008-04-28 Thread Owen, Clint
 For this to work the table title has to be inserted as one of the table
parameters, not as a separate paragraph above or below the table. Look
at the table designer, there is a selection for the title to be
Above..., Below... or No Title. If, for instance, your table title
paragraph is inserted manually in the paragraph where the table is
anchored, it can the same visually, but the variable will not work. The
automatic version inserts a little cell above or below the table for the
title paragraph, which you can change to your chosen paragraph style and
add the variable to.

Clint


Clint Owen 
Technical Publications
Crane Aerospace  Electronics 
425-743-8674


Framers,

Thanks for all the advice about pagination fine tuning. I'll be using
that info soon.

Now, I'm inserting the table continuation variable, and it doesn't
always work (FM 7.0 on Win XP). I've never seen this before.

I change to another variable in the same place, and it works just fine.
Every other variable I insert is fine, but when I return to table cont.,
it may or may not work as I look at the table continuing on the next
page (I know that I need to look at the continued part of the table on
the next page). It's very odd. 

I had one working, then I just opened the file, and not it's not any
more.

I've moved the table title from the bottom to the top and back.
Sometimes that fixes it, but apparently only temporarily. I've had it
happen in two different tables in two different chapters (both part of
the same book). I just looked at the other one that I'd fixed a few days
ago, and it, too, is no longer working. =:o

Has anyone else seen this? Any fixes? 

~
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RE: Table continued variable not always working

2008-04-28 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Yes, it's part of the table designer definition of the table.

The problem is what Tammy described. I had to set a right indent for the
table title para style to force the para to wrap. It apparently won't
automatically wrap just for the continued variable. I have a rather small
page size, so the titles did need to wrap to fit the Continued text in.

Setting a right indent of .75 worked to get both of the tables to always
show the continued variable.

Thanks, Tammy! 


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Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 3:08 PM
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Subject: RE: Table continued variable not always working

 For this to work the table title has to be inserted as one of the table
parameters, not as a separate paragraph above or below the table. Look
at the table designer, there is a selection for the title to be
Above..., Below... or No Title. If, for instance, your table title
paragraph is inserted manually in the paragraph where the table is
anchored, it can the same visually, but the variable will not work. The
automatic version inserts a little cell above or below the table for the
title paragraph, which you can change to your chosen paragraph style and
add the variable to.

Clint


Clint Owen 
Technical Publications
Crane Aerospace  Electronics 
425-743-8674


Framers,

Thanks for all the advice about pagination fine tuning. I'll be using
that info soon.

Now, I'm inserting the table continuation variable, and it doesn't
always work (FM 7.0 on Win XP). I've never seen this before.

I change to another variable in the same place, and it works just fine.
Every other variable I insert is fine, but when I return to table cont.,
it may or may not work as I look at the table continuing on the next
page (I know that I need to look at the continued part of the table on
the next page). It's very odd. 

I had one working, then I just opened the file, and not it's not any
more.

I've moved the table title from the bottom to the top and back.
Sometimes that fixes it, but apparently only temporarily. I've had it
happen in two different tables in two different chapters (both part of
the same book). I just looked at the other one that I'd fixed a few days
ago, and it, too, is no longer working. =:o

Has anyone else seen this? Any fixes? 

~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
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Table continued variable not always working

2008-04-28 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Framers,

Thanks for all the advice about pagination fine tuning. I'll be using that
info soon.

Now, I'm inserting the table continuation variable, and it doesn't always
work (FM 7.0 on Win XP). I've never seen this before.

I change to another variable in the same place, and it works just fine.
Every other variable I insert is fine, but when I return to table cont., it
may or may not work as I look at the table continuing on the next page (I
know that I need to look at the continued part of the table on the next
page). It's very odd. 

I had one working, then I just opened the file, and not it's not any more.

I've moved the table title from the bottom to the top and back. Sometimes
that "fixes" it, but apparently only temporarily. I've had it happen in two
different tables in two different chapters (both part of the same book). I
just looked at the other one that I'd fixed a few days ago, and it, too, is
no longer working. =:o

Has anyone else seen this? Any fixes? 

~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
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Table continued variable not always working

2008-04-28 Thread Tammy Van Boening
Linda,

How long is your table title? If it is too long to add the variable at
the end, FM won't automatically wrap. You have force the table title to
wrap (set the right indent on the Paragraph catalog) and then you will
see the variable again.

TVB 

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Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 2:00 PM
To: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: Table continued variable not always working

Framers,

Thanks for all the advice about pagination fine tuning. I'll be using
that info soon.

Now, I'm inserting the table continuation variable, and it doesn't
always work (FM 7.0 on Win XP). I've never seen this before.

I change to another variable in the same place, and it works just fine.
Every other variable I insert is fine, but when I return to table cont.,
it may or may not work as I look at the table continuing on the next
page (I know that I need to look at the continued part of the table on
the next page). It's very odd. 

I had one working, then I just opened the file, and not it's not any
more.

I've moved the table title from the bottom to the top and back.
Sometimes that "fixes" it, but apparently only temporarily. I've had it
happen in two different tables in two different chapters (both part of
the same book). I just looked at the other one that I'd fixed a few days
ago, and it, too, is no longer working. =:o

Has anyone else seen this? Any fixes? 

~
Linda G. Gallagher
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Table continued variable not always working

2008-04-28 Thread Owen, Clint
 For this to work the table title has to be inserted as one of the table
parameters, not as a separate paragraph above or below the table. Look
at the table designer, there is a selection for the title to be
"Above...", "Below..." or "No Title". If, for instance, your table title
paragraph is inserted manually in the paragraph where the table is
anchored, it can the same visually, but the variable will not work. The
automatic version inserts a little cell above or below the table for the
title paragraph, which you can change to your chosen paragraph style and
add the variable to.

Clint


Clint Owen 
Technical Publications
Crane Aerospace & Electronics 
425-743-8674


Framers,

Thanks for all the advice about pagination fine tuning. I'll be using
that info soon.

Now, I'm inserting the table continuation variable, and it doesn't
always work (FM 7.0 on Win XP). I've never seen this before.

I change to another variable in the same place, and it works just fine.
Every other variable I insert is fine, but when I return to table cont.,
it may or may not work as I look at the table continuing on the next
page (I know that I need to look at the continued part of the table on
the next page). It's very odd. 

I had one working, then I just opened the file, and not it's not any
more.

I've moved the table title from the bottom to the top and back.
Sometimes that "fixes" it, but apparently only temporarily. I've had it
happen in two different tables in two different chapters (both part of
the same book). I just looked at the other one that I'd fixed a few days
ago, and it, too, is no longer working. =:o

Has anyone else seen this? Any fixes? 

~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
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Table continued variable not always working

2008-04-28 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Yes, it's part of the table designer definition of the table.

The problem is what Tammy described. I had to set a right indent for the
table title para style to force the para to wrap. It apparently won't
automatically wrap just for the continued variable. I have a rather small
page size, so the titles did need to wrap to fit the Continued text in.

Setting a right indent of .75" worked to get both of the tables to always
show the continued variable.

Thanks, Tammy! 


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-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Owen, Clint
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 3:08 PM
To: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Table continued variable not always working

 For this to work the table title has to be inserted as one of the table
parameters, not as a separate paragraph above or below the table. Look
at the table designer, there is a selection for the title to be
"Above...", "Below..." or "No Title". If, for instance, your table title
paragraph is inserted manually in the paragraph where the table is
anchored, it can the same visually, but the variable will not work. The
automatic version inserts a little cell above or below the table for the
title paragraph, which you can change to your chosen paragraph style and
add the variable to.

Clint


Clint Owen 
Technical Publications
Crane Aerospace & Electronics 
425-743-8674


Framers,

Thanks for all the advice about pagination fine tuning. I'll be using
that info soon.

Now, I'm inserting the table continuation variable, and it doesn't
always work (FM 7.0 on Win XP). I've never seen this before.

I change to another variable in the same place, and it works just fine.
Every other variable I insert is fine, but when I return to table cont.,
it may or may not work as I look at the table continuing on the next
page (I know that I need to look at the continued part of the table on
the next page). It's very odd. 

I had one working, then I just opened the file, and not it's not any
more.

I've moved the table title from the bottom to the top and back.
Sometimes that "fixes" it, but apparently only temporarily. I've had it
happen in two different tables in two different chapters (both part of
the same book). I just looked at the other one that I'd fixed a few days
ago, and it, too, is no longer working. =:o

Has anyone else seen this? Any fixes? 

~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
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Table continued variable not always working

2008-04-28 Thread Stuart Rogers
Linda G. Gallagher wrote:
> Yes, it's part of the table designer definition of the table.
> 
> The problem is what Tammy described. I had to set a right indent for the
> table title para style to force the para to wrap. It apparently won't
> automatically wrap just for the continued variable. I have a rather small
> page size, so the titles did need to wrap to fit the Continued text in.
> 
> Setting a right indent of .75" worked to get both of the tables to always
> show the continued variable.
> 
> Thanks, Tammy! 
> 


Can't remember if I've tried this or not -- does a non-breaking space 
before the variable cause an automatic wrap?

s.


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