Text Inset Issue
Thanks for all your suggestions--I apologize for being so late in my response--had a family emergency and have been out of town and out of touch with my work for 10 days. I will examine my file in the light of your suggestions, Peter, and let you know the results. Thanks so much for the detailed help Joan ~~~ Joan Robins Consulting, Inc. joan at joanrobins.com ~~~ -- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:01:02 -0500 From: Peter Gold <pe...@knowhowpro.com> Subject: RE: Text Inset Issue, was Framers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13 To: "Joan Robins" , Message-ID: <a06230934c0656472d329@[192.168.0.5]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Hi, Joan: It's not clear if your "container" document has format definitions whose names match *exactly* - spelling and case - those in the imported document. If the files you want to import don't have matching format names, then "Reformat Using Current Document's Formats" retains the format and name of the imported file or text flow, but the name doesn't appear in the paragraph or character format catalog. If the appearance of the inset's text resembles the appearance of the container file's text, then you won't see a difference. To determine what's going on, double click the imported inset and choose "Convert to Text," then click into its text, and observe the format at the insertion point by checking the "tag information area" - the leftmost section of the status bar at the bottom of the document window. NOTE: In recent releases of FM, the paragraph format information in the formatting bar, below the document's menu bar, is known to be unreliable, but the tag information area is ALWAYS reliable. If the names don't match exactly, you won't get the results you expect. You can test what's happening by making the source's visual quality distinctly different from the container document, such as changing the text color of a paragraph format in the inset's source file. If you retain source's formats, the new color should appear in the imported inset; if you choose to reformat the import using current document's formats, the new color should not appear. If the paragraph or character formats in the imported inset appear with a prefixed asterisk, such as *headingWhatever, you can add them to the current file. One method is with File > Import > Formats, but this often leads to importing more formats than you need, or overwriting existing format definitions with the imported definitions. One way to avoid this is to create a new file that contains only the definitions you want to import, and import from it. Another way is to search Google for cleanimport framemaker, for an inexpensive plug-in that imports very selectively. HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices >Text Insets take on formatting of source document ALWAYS! > >Has anyone noticed that unless you choose plain text, the imported text >inset will have the formatting of the document that you are importing FROM >and not the one into which the text inset is going? > >I'm sure it used to work in Frame 6. Wow, it sure makes my life difficult!!
RE: Text Inset Issue, was Framers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13
Hi Joan, When you are importing the text inset, make sure that on the Import Text Flow by Reference dialog box, you have the Reformat Using Current Document's Formats option selected, and not Retain Source's Formatting. Regards, Keith Keith Arnett Senior Technical Writer webMethods, Inc.\ Fairfax VA -Original Message- Message: 7 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 03:51:44 -0700 From: Joan Robins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Framers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Text Insets take on formatting of source document ALWAYS! Has anyone noticed that unless you choose plain text, the imported text inset will have the formatting of the document that you are importing FROM and not the one into which the text inset is going? I'm sure it used to work in Frame 6. Wow, it sure makes my life difficult!! Could someone else test and see if my findings are correct?? Much appreciated. ~~~ Joan Robins Consulting, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Text Inset Issue, was Framers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13
I have tried it all ways. The result is the same. It does not Reformat using current documents formats no matter what I do! -Original Message- From: Keith Arnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 6:49 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Text Inset Issue, was Framers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13 Hi Joan, When you are importing the text inset, make sure that on the Import Text Flow by Reference dialog box, you have the Reformat Using Current Document's Formats option selected, and not Retain Source's Formatting. Regards, Keith Keith Arnett Senior Technical Writer webMethods, Inc.\ Fairfax VA -Original Message- Message: 7 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 03:51:44 -0700 From: Joan Robins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Framers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Text Insets take on formatting of source document ALWAYS! Has anyone noticed that unless you choose plain text, the imported text inset will have the formatting of the document that you are importing FROM and not the one into which the text inset is going? I'm sure it used to work in Frame 6. Wow, it sure makes my life difficult!! Could someone else test and see if my findings are correct?? Much appreciated. ~~~ Joan Robins Consulting, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Text Inset Issue, was Framers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13
I have tried it all ways. The result is the same. It does not Reformat using current documents formats no matter what I do! -Original Message- From: Keith Arnett [mailto:keith.arn...@webmethods.com] Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 6:49 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Cc: joan at joanrobins.com Subject: RE: Text Inset Issue, was Framers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13 Hi Joan, When you are importing the text inset, make sure that on the Import Text Flow by Reference dialog box, you have the "Reformat Using Current Document's Formats" option selected, and not "Retain Source's Formatting." Regards, Keith Keith Arnett Senior Technical Writer webMethods, Inc.\ Fairfax VA -Original Message- Message: 7 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 03:51:44 -0700 From: "Joan Robins" <j...@joanrobins.com> Subject: RE: Framers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13 To: Message-ID: <005201c65ee8$41ce2390$2d01a8c0 at DDLVJ391> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Text Insets take on formatting of source document ALWAYS! Has anyone noticed that unless you choose plain text, the imported text inset will have the formatting of the document that you are importing FROM and not the one into which the text inset is going? I'm sure it used to work in Frame 6. Wow, it sure makes my life difficult!! Could someone else test and see if my findings are correct?? Much appreciated. ~~~ Joan Robins Consulting, Inc. joan at joanrobins.com ~~~
Text Inset Issue, was Framers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13
Hi, Joan: It's not clear if your "container" document has format definitions whose names match *exactly* - spelling and case - those in the imported document. If the files you want to import don't have matching format names, then "Reformat Using Current Document's Formats" retains the format and name of the imported file or text flow, but the name doesn't appear in the paragraph or character format catalog. If the appearance of the inset's text resembles the appearance of the container file's text, then you won't see a difference. To determine what's going on, double click the imported inset and choose "Convert to Text," then click into its text, and observe the format at the insertion point by checking the "tag information area" - the leftmost section of the status bar at the bottom of the document window. NOTE: In recent releases of FM, the paragraph format information in the formatting bar, below the document's menu bar, is known to be unreliable, but the tag information area is ALWAYS reliable. If the names don't match exactly, you won't get the results you expect. You can test what's happening by making the source's visual quality distinctly different from the container document, such as changing the text color of a paragraph format in the inset's source file. If you retain source's formats, the new color should appear in the imported inset; if you choose to reformat the import using current document's formats, the new color should not appear. If the paragraph or character formats in the imported inset appear with a prefixed asterisk, such as *headingWhatever, you can add them to the current file. One method is with File > Import > Formats, but this often leads to importing more formats than you need, or overwriting existing format definitions with the imported definitions. One way to avoid this is to create a new file that contains only the definitions you want to import, and import from it. Another way is to search Google for cleanimport framemaker, for an inexpensive plug-in that imports very selectively. HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices >Text Insets take on formatting of source document ALWAYS! > >Has anyone noticed that unless you choose plain text, the imported text >inset will have the formatting of the document that you are importing FROM >and not the one into which the text inset is going? > >I'm sure it used to work in Frame 6. Wow, it sure makes my life difficult!!
