Thank You _RE: URGENT_Images and DPI
Hi all, I followed the advice to turn off down sampling and compression. I also ran some test samples of DPIs for the different sizes of the screen captures (based on inches) and now have better images. Thanks again for all your help ! Sue From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] Sent: Thu 4/9/2009 7:14 PM To: Susan Curtzwiler; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: URGENT_Images and DPI Susan Curtzwiler wrote: > I need some really quick help with how to best use the DPI settings to > import screen captures by reference. > > I have some wide screen captures that will not fit into the anchored > frame and retain clarity. > > If I use the 96 DPI, I can get the area being emphasized, but not > enough surrounding area to have landmarks for the user. > > The larger screen captures, about 4x6, are even more difficult. If I > use the 150 DPI, it goes in the anchored frame, but again the text > quality is not very good. What format are they saved in? If it's JPEG, that's part of your problem. JPEG is optimal for photos, but a poor choice for screen shots, and often results in blurry text. Switch to PNG. If these screen captures are from a Windows machine, 96 dpi should be approximately "life-size" and 150 dpi should be easily readable. I routinely used 180 dpi for screen shots of an application window about 900 x 500 pixels, making them about 5" wide in the doc. When you say 4x6, are you talking inches? You should be able to insert those into an 8.5 x 11 page life-size or nearly so, and if they're decent quality, they should be as sharp and clear as the original window from which they're captured. You refer to _the_ anchored frame as if it was a given. Can't you use a larger frame? If necessary, you can rotate the screen shot so its width can be nearly the height of your text frame (although you shouldn't need to unless I'm misunderstanding the sizes you're working with or these screens use really tiny type). BTW, to maintain the quality of a bitmap graphic, resist the urge to make it larger or smaller with the mouse. Resize it only by changing the dpi (best) or setting a round-number scaling percentage (both in the Object Properties dialog). HTH! Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Thank You _RE: URGENT_Images and DPI
Hi all, I followed the advice to turn off down sampling and compression. I also ran some test samples of DPIs for the different sizes of the screen captures (based on inches) and now have better images. Thanks again for all your help ! Sue From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] Sent: Thu 4/9/2009 7:14 PM To: Susan Curtzwiler; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: URGENT_Images and DPI Susan Curtzwiler wrote: > I need some really quick help with how to best use the DPI settings to > import screen captures by reference. > > I have some wide screen captures that will not fit into the anchored > frame and retain clarity. > > If I use the 96 DPI, I can get the area being emphasized, but not > enough surrounding area to have landmarks for the user. > > The larger screen captures, about 4x6, are even more difficult. If I > use the 150 DPI, it goes in the anchored frame, but again the text > quality is not very good. What format are they saved in? If it's JPEG, that's part of your problem. JPEG is optimal for photos, but a poor choice for screen shots, and often results in blurry text. Switch to PNG. If these screen captures are from a Windows machine, 96 dpi should be approximately "life-size" and 150 dpi should be easily readable. I routinely used 180 dpi for screen shots of an application window about 900 x 500 pixels, making them about 5" wide in the doc. When you say 4x6, are you talking inches? You should be able to insert those into an 8.5 x 11 page life-size or nearly so, and if they're decent quality, they should be as sharp and clear as the original window from which they're captured. You refer to _the_ anchored frame as if it was a given. Can't you use a larger frame? If necessary, you can rotate the screen shot so its width can be nearly the height of your text frame (although you shouldn't need to unless I'm misunderstanding the sizes you're working with or these screens use really tiny type). BTW, to maintain the quality of a bitmap graphic, resist the urge to make it larger or smaller with the mouse. Resize it only by changing the dpi (best) or setting a round-number scaling percentage (both in the Object Properties dialog). HTH! Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
URGENT_Images and DPI
Susan Curtzwiler wrote: > I need some really quick help with how to best use the DPI settings to > import screen captures by reference. > > I have some wide screen captures that will not fit into the anchored > frame and retain clarity. > > If I use the 96 DPI, I can get the area being emphasized, but not > enough surrounding area to have landmarks for the user. > > The larger screen captures, about 4x6, are even more difficult. If I > use the 150 DPI, it goes in the anchored frame, but again the text > quality is not very good. What format are they saved in? If it's JPEG, that's part of your problem. JPEG is optimal for photos, but a poor choice for screen shots, and often results in blurry text. Switch to PNG. If these screen captures are from a Windows machine, 96 dpi should be approximately "life-size" and 150 dpi should be easily readable. I routinely used 180 dpi for screen shots of an application window about 900 x 500 pixels, making them about 5" wide in the doc. When you say 4x6, are you talking inches? You should be able to insert those into an 8.5 x 11 page life-size or nearly so, and if they're decent quality, they should be as sharp and clear as the original window from which they're captured. You refer to _the_ anchored frame as if it was a given. Can't you use a larger frame? If necessary, you can rotate the screen shot so its width can be nearly the height of your text frame (although you shouldn't need to unless I'm misunderstanding the sizes you're working with or these screens use really tiny type). BTW, to maintain the quality of a bitmap graphic, resist the urge to make it larger or smaller with the mouse. Resize it only by changing the dpi (best) or setting a round-number scaling percentage (both in the Object Properties dialog). HTH! Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
RE: URGENT_Images and DPI
Susan Curtzwiler wrote: > I need some really quick help with how to best use the DPI settings to > import screen captures by reference. > > I have some wide screen captures that will not fit into the anchored > frame and retain clarity. > > If I use the 96 DPI, I can get the area being emphasized, but not > enough surrounding area to have landmarks for the user. > > The larger screen captures, about 4x6, are even more difficult. If I > use the 150 DPI, it goes in the anchored frame, but again the text > quality is not very good. What format are they saved in? If it's JPEG, that's part of your problem. JPEG is optimal for photos, but a poor choice for screen shots, and often results in blurry text. Switch to PNG. If these screen captures are from a Windows machine, 96 dpi should be approximately "life-size" and 150 dpi should be easily readable. I routinely used 180 dpi for screen shots of an application window about 900 x 500 pixels, making them about 5" wide in the doc. When you say 4x6, are you talking inches? You should be able to insert those into an 8.5 x 11 page life-size or nearly so, and if they're decent quality, they should be as sharp and clear as the original window from which they're captured. You refer to _the_ anchored frame as if it was a given. Can't you use a larger frame? If necessary, you can rotate the screen shot so its width can be nearly the height of your text frame (although you shouldn't need to unless I'm misunderstanding the sizes you're working with or these screens use really tiny type). BTW, to maintain the quality of a bitmap graphic, resist the urge to make it larger or smaller with the mouse. Resize it only by changing the dpi (best) or setting a round-number scaling percentage (both in the Object Properties dialog). HTH! Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: URGENT_Images and DPI
Susan, You need to resize the screenshot outside of FM. FM does not maintain DPI settings when you scale a graphic to fit within a frame. It's one or the other. I don't use Snagit so I do not know if you can do it with that tool. I do knokw that you can do this in Paintshop Pro because that is the tool I use. Hope this helps. Diane Gaskill -Original Message- >From: Susan Curtzwiler >Sent: Apr 9, 2009 8:06 AM >To: framers@lists.frameusers.com >Subject: URGENT_Images and DPI > >Hi All, > >Software: FrameMaker 7.0 on Vista Enterprise. SnagIt 9 in .PNG format - >required by management. >Audience: Technicians in a data center - they will be using a standard >laptop. This is for a runbook, mostly will be viewed on screen, limited >printed copies in black only. > >I need some really quick help with how to best use the DPI settings to import >screen captures by reference. > >I have some wide screen captures that will not fit into the anchored frame and >retain clarity. > >If I use the 96 DPI, I can get the area being emphasized, but not enough >surrounding area to have landmarks for the user. > >The larger screen captures, about 4x6, are even more difficult. If I use the >150 DPI, it goes in the anchored frame, but again the text quality is not very >good. > >Any input will be great. I will be working with the FM scaling tool and see >if I can get satisfactory results. > >Thanks, >Sue Curtzwiler >___ > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
URGENT_Images and DPI
Susan, You need to resize the screenshot outside of FM. FM does not maintain DPI settings when you scale a graphic to fit within a frame. It's one or the other. I don't use Snagit so I do not know if you can do it with that tool. I do knokw that you can do this in Paintshop Pro because that is the tool I use. Hope this helps. Diane Gaskill -Original Message- >From: Susan Curtzwiler >Sent: Apr 9, 2009 8:06 AM >To: framers at lists.frameusers.com >Subject: URGENT_Images and DPI > >Hi All, > >Software: FrameMaker 7.0 on Vista Enterprise. SnagIt 9 in .PNG format - >required by management. >Audience: Technicians in a data center - they will be using a standard >laptop. This is for a runbook, mostly will be viewed on screen, limited >printed copies in black only. > >I need some really quick help with how to best use the DPI settings to import >screen captures by reference. > >I have some wide screen captures that will not fit into the anchored frame and >retain clarity. > >If I use the 96 DPI, I can get the area being emphasized, but not enough >surrounding area to have landmarks for the user. > >The larger screen captures, about 4x6, are even more difficult. If I use the >150 DPI, it goes in the anchored frame, but again the text quality is not very >good. > >Any input will be great. I will be working with the FM scaling tool and see >if I can get satisfactory results. > >Thanks, >Sue Curtzwiler >___ >
URGENT_Images and DPI
Susan, What is your output format? Print, PDF, HTML, something else? And for the wider shots, are you using the full text container width (sidehead and column), or staying within the column? Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Susan Curtzwiler wrote: > Hi All, > > Software: ?FrameMaker 7.0 ?on Vista Enterprise. ?SnagIt 9 in .PNG format - > required by management. > Audience: ?Technicians in a data center - they will be using a standard > laptop. ?This is for a runbook, mostly will be viewed on screen, limited > printed copies in black only. > > I need some really quick help with how to best use the DPI settings to import > screen captures by reference. > > I have some wide screen captures that will not fit into the anchored frame > and retain clarity. > > If I use the 96 DPI, I can get the area being emphasized, but not enough > surrounding area to have landmarks for the user. > > The larger screen captures, about 4x6, are even more difficult. ?If I use the > 150 DPI, it goes in the anchored frame, but again the text quality is not > very good. > > Any input will be great. ? I will be working with the FM scaling tool and see > if I can get satisfactory results. > > Thanks, > Sue Curtzwiler > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Re: URGENT_Images and DPI
Susan, What is your output format? Print, PDF, HTML, something else? And for the wider shots, are you using the full text container width (sidehead and column), or staying within the column? Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Susan Curtzwiler wrote: > Hi All, > > Software: FrameMaker 7.0 on Vista Enterprise. SnagIt 9 in .PNG format - > required by management. > Audience: Technicians in a data center - they will be using a standard > laptop. This is for a runbook, mostly will be viewed on screen, limited > printed copies in black only. > > I need some really quick help with how to best use the DPI settings to import > screen captures by reference. > > I have some wide screen captures that will not fit into the anchored frame > and retain clarity. > > If I use the 96 DPI, I can get the area being emphasized, but not enough > surrounding area to have landmarks for the user. > > The larger screen captures, about 4x6, are even more difficult. If I use the > 150 DPI, it goes in the anchored frame, but again the text quality is not > very good. > > Any input will be great. I will be working with the FM scaling tool and see > if I can get satisfactory results. > > Thanks, > Sue Curtzwiler > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
URGENT_Images and DPI
Hi All, Software: FrameMaker 7.0 on Vista Enterprise. SnagIt 9 in .PNG format - required by management. Audience: Technicians in a data center - they will be using a standard laptop. This is for a runbook, mostly will be viewed on screen, limited printed copies in black only. I need some really quick help with how to best use the DPI settings to import screen captures by reference. I have some wide screen captures that will not fit into the anchored frame and retain clarity. If I use the 96 DPI, I can get the area being emphasized, but not enough surrounding area to have landmarks for the user. The larger screen captures, about 4x6, are even more difficult. If I use the 150 DPI, it goes in the anchored frame, but again the text quality is not very good. Any input will be great. I will be working with the FM scaling tool and see if I can get satisfactory results. Thanks, Sue Curtzwiler ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
URGENT_Images and DPI
Hi All, Software: FrameMaker 7.0 on Vista Enterprise. SnagIt 9 in .PNG format - required by management. Audience: Technicians in a data center - they will be using a standard laptop. This is for a runbook, mostly will be viewed on screen, limited printed copies in black only. I need some really quick help with how to best use the DPI settings to import screen captures by reference. I have some wide screen captures that will not fit into the anchored frame and retain clarity. If I use the 96 DPI, I can get the area being emphasized, but not enough surrounding area to have landmarks for the user. The larger screen captures, about 4x6, are even more difficult. If I use the 150 DPI, it goes in the anchored frame, but again the text quality is not very good. Any input will be great. I will be working with the FM scaling tool and see if I can get satisfactory results. Thanks, Sue Curtzwiler
