Very slow loading of FM6 files into FM9
Have recently upgraded to FM9 and applied the patches. Files that took a few seconds to load into FM6 are now taking up to 10 minutes to load into FM9. These files are not massive but do have cross-references, conditional text, text insets and eps and jpg graphics. I have also tried importing eps graphics into new FM9 files and this either slows the machine to nearly a full stop or crashes. JPGs are not a problem. We have tried loading the same files to FM9 on a similar spec machine on the same network connection and that loads the files OK. The PC in question is: HP Compaq DX2200MT; Intel Pentium 4, 3.2 GHz; 768 Mb RAM, 80 Gig HD of which 20 Gig is free; Windows XP Pro, Version 2002, SP3. ATi Fire GL 3100, latest driver from their web-site. Any input on this issue is very welcome. Adrian Cherry Technical Writer Watkiss Automation Ltd. Blaydon Road SANDY Bedfordshire SG19 1RZ United Kingdom Tel:+44 (0)1767 685700 Fax: +44 (0)1767 689900 mailto:adrianche...@watkiss.com URL: http://www.watkiss.com _ Disclaimerhttp://www.watkiss.com/terms.htm This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely that of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Watkiss Automation Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error please notify Watkiss Automation Ltd on telephone +44 1767 685700. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Very slow loading of FM6 files into FM9
First, your RAM and disk free space are way low... That is likely to be the problem, although it may be compounded if your anti-virus program scans every file as it opens. And you don't mention your network speed, which may be a factor. Even Adobe is recommending 1G of RAM, but in the real world, more than 2G of RAM would be a minimal amount for this config, and you'd need more if you run any graphics-intensive programs simultaneously. Just as a BTW, RAM is cheap right now... And in general, you'd want to have a third to half of the hard drive free for swap space and temp files. If you haven't cleaned up the hard drive with a utility lately, it may be time. One thing you might try is saving the converted files out as MIF to clean up any residual unused references or characters, but I'd say your machine just doesn't have enough horsepower. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Adrian Cherryadrianche...@watkiss.com wrote: Have recently upgraded to FM9 and applied the patches. Files that took a few seconds to load into FM6 are now taking up to 10 minutes to load into FM9. These files are not massive but do have cross-references, conditional text, text insets and eps and jpg graphics. I have also tried importing eps graphics into new FM9 files and this either slows the machine to nearly a full stop or crashes. JPGs are not a problem. We have tried loading the same files to FM9 on a similar spec machine on the same network connection and that loads the files OK. The PC in question is: HP Compaq DX2200MT; Intel Pentium 4, 3.2 GHz; 768 Mb RAM, 80 Gig HD of which 20 Gig is free; Windows XP Pro, Version 2002, SP3. ATi Fire GL 3100, latest driver from their web-site. Any input on this issue is very welcome. Adrian Cherry Technical Writer Watkiss Automation Ltd. Blaydon Road SANDY Bedfordshire SG19 1RZ United Kingdom Tel:+44 (0)1767 685700 Fax: +44 (0)1767 689900 mailto:adrianche...@watkiss.com URL: http://www.watkiss.com _ Disclaimer http://www.watkiss.com/terms.htm This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely that of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Watkiss Automation Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error please notify Watkiss Automation Ltd on telephone +44 1767 685700. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Very slow loading of FM6 files into FM9
I've never had good experiences working with FM across a network. On top of Art's suggestions, make sure all the files are on your local computer, and then perform your authoring/document generation/etc there. Nadine --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote: From: Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Very slow loading of FM6 files into FM9 To: Adrian Cherry adrianche...@watkiss.com Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Received: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 10:15 AM First, your RAM and disk free space are way low... That is likely to be the problem, although it may be compounded if your anti-virus program scans every file as it opens. And you don't mention your network speed, which may be a factor. Even Adobe is recommending 1G of RAM, but in the real world, more than 2G of RAM would be a minimal amount for this config, and you'd need more if you run any graphics-intensive programs simultaneously. Just as a BTW, RAM is cheap right now... And in general, you'd want to have a third to half of the hard drive free for swap space and temp files. If you haven't cleaned up the hard drive with a utility lately, it may be time. One thing you might try is saving the converted files out as MIF to clean up any residual unused references or characters, but I'd say your machine just doesn't have enough horsepower. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Adrian Cherryadrianche...@watkiss.com wrote: Have recently upgraded to FM9 and applied the patches. Files that took a few seconds to load into FM6 are now taking up to 10 minutes to load into FM9. These files are not massive but do have cross-references, conditional text, text insets and eps and jpg graphics. I have also tried importing eps graphics into new FM9 files and this either slows the machine to nearly a full stop or crashes. JPGs are not a problem. We have tried loading the same files to FM9 on a similar spec machine on the same network connection and that loads the files OK. The PC in question is: HP Compaq DX2200MT; Intel Pentium 4, 3.2 GHz; 768 Mb RAM, 80 Gig HD of which 20 Gig is free; Windows XP Pro, Version 2002, SP3. ATi Fire GL 3100, latest driver from their web-site. Any input on this issue is very welcome. Adrian Cherry Technical Writer Watkiss Automation Ltd. Blaydon Road SANDY Bedfordshire SG19 1RZ United Kingdom Tel:+44 (0)1767 685700 Fax: +44 (0)1767 689900 mailto:adrianche...@watkiss.com URL: http://www.watkiss.com _ Disclaimer http://www.watkiss.com/terms.htm This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely that of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Watkiss Automation Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error please notify Watkiss Automation Ltd on telephone +44 1767 685700. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Very slow loading of FM6 files into FM9
Have recently upgraded to FM9 and applied the patches. Files that took a few seconds to load into FM6 are now taking up to 10 minutes to load into FM9. These files are not massive but do have cross- references, conditional text, text insets and eps and jpg graphics. I have also tried importing eps graphics into new FM9 files and this either slows the machine to nearly a full stop or crashes. JPGs are not a problem. I noticed that FM9 was opening files much more slowly than previous FM versions and attributed it to the fact that FM9 was preloading all graphics at file open, instead of loading them only when I loaded the particular page in a file. I wrote Adobe about it and got this response: Begin Forwarded message = You might have the Insets Pod open in your default workspace which causes all insets to load at the open of the document. To check whether this is a cause, please do the following: 1. Make sure Hide Panels on Close is unselected in the File -- Preferences -- Interface dialog (see InterfacePreferences.jpg). 2. Open any file (if not already opened) such that workspace loads. 3. Close the Insets Pod from the workspace (see InsetsPod.jpg) 4. Once you have done these steps, you should see graphics loading only on demand and not on open. End Forwarded Message Hope that helps, Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Very slow loading of FM6 files into FM9
Have recently upgraded to FM9 and applied the patches. Files that took a few seconds to load into FM6 are now taking up to 10 minutes to load into FM9. These files are not massive but do have cross-references, conditional text, text insets and eps and jpg graphics. I have also tried importing eps graphics into new FM9 files and this either slows the machine to nearly a full stop or crashes. JPGs are not a problem. We have tried loading the same files to FM9 on a similar spec machine on the same network connection and that loads the files OK. The PC in question is: HP Compaq DX2200MT; Intel Pentium 4, 3.2 GHz; 768 Mb RAM, 80 Gig HD of which 20 Gig is free; Windows XP Pro, Version 2002, SP3. ATi Fire GL 3100, latest driver from their web-site. Any input on this issue is very welcome. Adrian Cherry Technical Writer Watkiss Automation Ltd. Blaydon Road SANDY Bedfordshire SG19 1RZ United Kingdom Tel:+44 (0)1767 685700 Fax: +44 (0)1767 689900 mailto:AdrianCherry at watkiss.com URL: http://www.watkiss.com ? _ Disclaimerhttp://www.watkiss.com/terms.htm This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely that of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Watkiss Automation Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error please notify Watkiss Automation Ltd on telephone +44 1767 685700.
Very slow loading of FM6 files into FM9
First, your RAM and disk free space are way low... That is likely to be the problem, although it may be compounded if your anti-virus program scans every file as it opens. And you don't mention your network speed, which may be a factor. Even Adobe is recommending 1G of RAM, but in the real world, more than 2G of RAM would be a minimal amount for this config, and you'd need more if you run any graphics-intensive programs simultaneously. Just as a BTW, RAM is cheap right now... And in general, you'd want to have a third to half of the hard drive free for swap space and temp files. If you haven't cleaned up the hard drive with a utility lately, it may be time. One thing you might try is saving the converted files out as MIF to clean up any residual unused references or characters, but I'd say your machine just doesn't have enough horsepower. Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Adrian Cherry wrote: > > Have recently upgraded to FM9 and applied the patches. > Files that took a few seconds to load into FM6 are now taking up to 10 > minutes to load into FM9. These files are not massive but do have > cross-references, conditional text, text insets and eps and jpg graphics. > I have also tried importing eps graphics into new FM9 files and this either > slows the machine to nearly a full stop or crashes. JPGs are not a problem. > We have tried loading the same files to FM9 on a similar spec machine on the > same network connection and that loads the files OK. > The PC in question is: HP Compaq DX2200MT; Intel Pentium 4, 3.2 GHz; 768 Mb > RAM, 80 Gig HD of which 20 Gig is free; Windows XP Pro, Version 2002, SP3. > ATi Fire GL 3100, latest driver from their web-site. > Any input on this issue is very welcome. > > Adrian Cherry > Technical Writer > Watkiss Automation Ltd. > Blaydon Road > SANDY > Bedfordshire > SG19 1RZ > United Kingdom > Tel:+44 (0)1767 685700 > Fax: +44 (0)1767 689900 > mailto:AdrianCherry at watkiss.com > URL: http://www.watkiss.com > > _ > Disclaimer ? ?http://www.watkiss.com/terms.htm > This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual > to whom it is addressed. > Any views or opinions presented are solely that of the author and do not > necessarily represent those of Watkiss Automation Ltd. > If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this > email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or > copying of this email is strictly prohibited. > If you received this email in error please notify Watkiss Automation Ltd on > telephone +44 1767 685700. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Very slow loading of FM6 files into FM9
I've never had good experiences working with FM across a network. On top of Art's suggestions, make sure all the files are on your local computer, and then perform your authoring/document generation/etc there. Nadine --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Art Campbell wrote: > From: Art Campbell > Subject: Re: Very slow loading of FM6 files into FM9 > To: "Adrian Cherry" > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Received: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 10:15 AM > First, your RAM and disk free space > are way low...? That is likely to > be the problem, although it may be compounded if your > anti-virus > program scans every file as it opens. And you don't mention > your > network speed, which may be a factor. > > Even Adobe is recommending 1G of RAM, but in the real > world, more than > 2G of RAM would be a minimal amount for this config, and > you'd need > more if you run any graphics-intensive programs > simultaneously. Just > as a BTW, RAM is cheap right now... > And in general, you'd want to have a third to half of the > hard drive > free for swap space and temp files. If you haven't cleaned > up the hard > drive with a utility lately, it may be time. > > One thing you might try is saving the converted files out > as MIF to > clean up any residual unused references or characters, but > I'd say > your machine just doesn't have enough horsepower. > > > Art Campbell > ? ? ? ? ? ? > ???art.campbell at gmail.com > ? "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world > beats a '52 > Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? No disclaimers apply. > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? > ???DoD 358 > > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Adrian Cherry > wrote: > > > > Have recently upgraded to FM9 and applied the > patches. > > Files that took a few seconds to load into FM6 are now > taking up to 10 minutes to load into FM9. These files are > not massive but do have cross-references, conditional text, > text insets and eps and jpg graphics. > > I have also tried importing eps graphics into new FM9 > files and this either slows the machine to nearly a full > stop or crashes. JPGs are not a problem. > > We have tried loading the same files to FM9 on a > similar spec machine on the same network connection and that > loads the files OK. > > The PC in question is: HP Compaq DX2200MT; Intel > Pentium 4, 3.2 GHz; 768 Mb RAM, 80 Gig HD of which 20 Gig is > free; Windows XP Pro, Version 2002, SP3. ATi Fire GL 3100, > latest driver from their web-site. > > Any input on this issue is very welcome. > > > > Adrian Cherry > > Technical Writer > > Watkiss Automation Ltd. > > Blaydon Road > > SANDY > > Bedfordshire > > SG19 1RZ > > United Kingdom > > Tel:+44 (0)1767 685700 > > Fax: +44 (0)1767 689900 > > mailto:AdrianCherry at watkiss.com > > URL: http://www.watkiss.com > > > > > _ > > Disclaimer ? ?http://www.watkiss.com/terms.htm > > This email is confidential and intended solely for the > use of the individual to whom it is addressed. > > Any views or opinions presented are solely that of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Watkiss > Automation Ltd. > > If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that > you have received this email in error and that any use, > dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this > email is strictly prohibited. > > If you received this email in error please notify > Watkiss Automation Ltd on telephone +44 1767 685700. > > ___ > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > > or visit > > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. > Visit > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and > info. > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as generic668 at yahoo.ca. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. > Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and > info. > >
Very slow loading of FM6 files into FM9
> Have recently upgraded to FM9 and applied the patches. > Files that took a few seconds to load into FM6 are now taking up to 10 > minutes to load into FM9. These files are not massive but do have cross- > references, conditional text, text insets and eps and jpg graphics. > I have also tried importing eps graphics into new FM9 files and this > either > slows the machine to nearly a full stop or crashes. JPGs are not a > problem. I noticed that FM9 was opening files much more slowly than previous FM versions and attributed it to the fact that FM9 was preloading all graphics at file open, instead of loading them only when I loaded the particular page in a file. I wrote Adobe about it and got this response: Begin Forwarded message = You might have the "Insets Pod" open in your default workspace which causes all insets to load at the open of the document. To check whether this is a cause, please do the following: 1. Make sure "Hide Panels on Close" is unselected in the "File --> Preferences --> Interface" dialog (see InterfacePreferences.jpg). 2. Open any file (if not already opened) such that workspace loads. 3. Close the "Insets Pod" from the workspace (see InsetsPod.jpg) 4. Once you have done these steps, you should see graphics loading only on demand and not on open. End Forwarded Message Hope that helps, Mike Wickham
