Re: Wow, if this came to pass?!?!?!

2006-05-01 Thread William Gaffga
I read them every week as well. And I put them in the entertainment  
category but he does have an excellent hit rate on his  
predictions ... as much as 70% over several years. Of course his  
predictions are not based on his weekly column, but they are  
influenced by the column.


Also, if you have the time, his video series NerdTV http:// 
www.pbs.org/cringely/nerdtv/ is excellent. It is an interview show  
with some of the tech world's luminaries. Each episode is available  
for download.


To keep this on topic, the interview with Tim O'Reilly is interesting.

Will.

On Apr 30, 2006, at 6:59 PM, Bill Briggs wrote:
 I second that. Cringley's speculations are most often quite  
entertaining. I read his column every week.


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Wow, if this came to pass?!?!?!

2006-05-01 Thread William Gaffga
I read them every week as well. And I put them in the entertainment  
category but he does have an excellent hit rate on his  
predictions ... as much as 70% over several years. Of course his  
predictions are not based on his weekly column, but they are  
influenced by the column.

Also, if you have the time, his video series NerdTV  is excellent. It is an interview show  
with some of the tech world's luminaries. Each episode is available  
for download.

To keep this on topic, the interview with Tim O'Reilly is interesting.

Will.

On Apr 30, 2006, at 6:59 PM, Bill Briggs wrote:
>  I second that. Cringley's speculations are most often quite  
> entertaining. I read his column every week.
>
> - web



RE: Wow, if this came to pass?!?!?!

2006-04-30 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 20:12 -0700 29/4/06, Dov Isaacs wrote:

That piece is total and ridiculous speculation on his part.

Of course it is - Cringley is paid to do just that. It's load of fun, too.

And it just won't happen! A very large number of Adobe employees would refuse 
to work in tyrannical, cultish environment encouraged by Apple's management.

Would that make any difference? If there is any truth in the rumor at all [and 
no, I don't believe it either], it would be the products Apple was after. Sorry 
Dov.

It doesn't just give me the warm fuzzies, but the pink wibblies too, with a 
good bit of perspiration thrown in.

And didn't I remember reading somewhere that Apple's cash mountain is now so 
large that it's had to set up a company in Reno just to look after it? $8 
billion or thereabouts. Name of 'Braeburn' [or maybe that was an April 1 piece 
and I didn't notice the date]. If they moved on Adobe, they could have 'Golden 
Delicious' too.
-- 
Steve
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RE: Wow, if this came to pass?!?!?!

2006-04-30 Thread Bruce Wolf


--- Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A very large number of Adobe employees would refuse
to work in tyrannical, cultish environment encouraged
by Apple's management.
 

I don't work for Adobe or Apple.  I do enjoy getting a
paycheck.  My hunch is most Adobe employees enjoy
getting a paycheck.

Just what would you and the other freedom fighters
do Dov if Apple bought Adobe?  Resign en masse and
jump to one of the plentiful jobs out there in the
marketplace?  Stay and conduct guerrilla warfare from
inside the company?

Perhaps you won't be given the chance to stay.  There
would likely be a large number of pink slips handed
out, and certainly a renegade who writes easily
accessed emails would be handed one.

You've been a great friend to everyone on this list,
Dov.  Take care.

BW

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RE: Wow, if this came to pass?!?!?!

2006-04-30 Thread quills

At 12:09 PM +0100 4/30/06, Steve Rickaby wrote:

At 20:12 -0700 29/4/06, Dov Isaacs wrote:


That piece is total and ridiculous speculation on his part.


Of course it is - Cringley is paid to do just that. It's load of fun, too.

And it just won't happen! A very large number of Adobe employees 
would refuse to work in tyrannical, cultish environment encouraged 
by Apple's management.


Would that make any difference? If there is any truth in the rumor 
at all [and no, I don't believe it either], it would be the products 
Apple was after. Sorry Dov.



Besides, most corporations are tyrannical and cultish. So what is the problem?

; )

Scott
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RE: Wow, if this came to pass?!?!?!

2006-04-30 Thread Diane Gaskill
I'd say an extremely long shot, if at all.  I would be surprised if Adobe
ever sells out to anyone.  Adobe is considerably more than self-sufficient,
and I cannot see any business reasons for them to do so.

- Diane

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Subject: Wow, if this came to pass?!?!?!


Cringley has been really out on a limb the last two or three weeks, but I'd
love to see this one come to pass. Apple buying Adobe would be a great
thing. Lots of publicly available information supports Cringley's
speculations, but it still seems like a long shot.
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20060427.html

Imagine this office suite
FrameMaker (unstructured version)
spreadsheet as yet unknown, but maybe adapted from AppleWorks
Keynote
FileMaker Pro
Acrobat suite (with Flash)

One gets the warm fuzzies.

- web
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Wow, if this came to pass?!?!?!

2006-04-30 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 20:12 -0700 29/4/06, Dov Isaacs wrote:

>That piece is total and ridiculous speculation on his part.

Of course it is - Cringley is paid to do just that. It's load of fun, too.

>And it just won't happen! A very large number of Adobe employees would refuse 
>to work in tyrannical, cultish environment encouraged by Apple's management.

Would that make any difference? If there is any truth in the rumor at all [and 
no, I don't believe it either], it would be the products Apple was after. Sorry 
Dov.

It doesn't just give me the warm fuzzies, but the pink wibblies too, with a 
good bit of perspiration thrown in.

And didn't I remember reading somewhere that Apple's cash mountain is now so 
large that it's had to set up a company in Reno just to look after it? $8 
billion or thereabouts. Name of 'Braeburn' [or maybe that was an April 1 piece 
and I didn't notice the date]. If they moved on Adobe, they could have 'Golden 
Delicious' too.
-- 
Steve



Wow, if this came to pass?!?!?!

2006-04-30 Thread Bruce Wolf


--- Dov Isaacs  wrote:
"A very large number of Adobe employees would refuse
to work in tyrannical, cultish environment encouraged
by Apple's management."


I don't work for Adobe or Apple.  I do enjoy getting a
paycheck.  My hunch is most Adobe employees enjoy
getting a paycheck.

Just what would you and the other "freedom fighters"
do Dov if Apple bought Adobe?  Resign en masse and
jump to one of the plentiful jobs out there in the
marketplace?  Stay and conduct guerrilla warfare from
inside the company?

Perhaps you won't be given the chance to stay.  There
would likely be a large number of pink slips handed
out, and certainly a "renegade" who writes easily
accessed emails would be handed one.

You've been a great friend to everyone on this list,
Dov.  Take care.

BW

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Wow, if this came to pass?!?!?!

2006-04-30 Thread qui...@airmail.net
At 12:09 PM +0100 4/30/06, Steve Rickaby wrote:
>At 20:12 -0700 29/4/06, Dov Isaacs wrote:
>
>>That piece is total and ridiculous speculation on his part.
>
>Of course it is - Cringley is paid to do just that. It's load of fun, too.
>
>>And it just won't happen! A very large number of Adobe employees 
>>would refuse to work in tyrannical, cultish environment encouraged 
>>by Apple's management.
>
>Would that make any difference? If there is any truth in the rumor 
>at all [and no, I don't believe it either], it would be the products 
>Apple was after. Sorry Dov.


Besides, most corporations are tyrannical and cultish. So what is the problem?

; )

Scott



Wow, if this came to pass?!?!?!

2006-04-30 Thread Diane Gaskill
I'd say an extremely long shot, if at all.  I would be surprised if Adobe
ever sells out to anyone.  Adobe is considerably more than self-sufficient,
and I cannot see any business reasons for them to do so.

- Diane

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From: framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On
Behalf Of Bill Briggs
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 5:08 PM
To: List, Framers
Subject: Wow, if this came to pass?!?!?!


Cringley has been really out on a limb the last two or three weeks, but I'd
love to see this one come to pass. Apple buying Adobe would be a great
thing. Lots of publicly available information supports Cringley's
speculations, but it still seems like a long shot.
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20060427.html

Imagine this office suite
FrameMaker (unstructured version)
spreadsheet as yet unknown, but maybe adapted from AppleWorks
Keynote
FileMaker Pro
Acrobat suite (with Flash)

One gets the warm fuzzies.

- web
_




RE: Wow, if this came to pass?!?!?!

2006-04-29 Thread Dov Isaacs
That piece is total and ridiculous speculation on his
part. And it just won't happen! A very large number of
Adobe employees would refuse to work in tyrannical, 
cultish environment encouraged by Apple's management.
Nor would they work for Microsoft (stated to stave off
the usual crew of paranoids on this list) for similar
reasons.

- Dov

 

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 Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 5:08 PM
 To: List, Framers
 Subject: Wow, if this came to pass?!?!?!
 
 Cringley has been really out on a limb the last two or three 
 weeks, but I'd love to see this one come to pass. Apple 
 buying Adobe would be a great thing. Lots of publicly 
 available information supports Cringley's speculations, but 
 it still seems like a long shot. 
 http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20060427.html
 
 Imagine this office suite
 FrameMaker (unstructured version)
 spreadsheet as yet unknown, but maybe adapted from AppleWorks
 Keynote
 FileMaker Pro 
 Acrobat suite (with Flash)
 
 One gets the warm fuzzies.
 
 - web
 
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Wow, if this came to pass?!?!?!

2006-04-29 Thread Bill Briggs
Cringley has been really out on a limb the last two or three weeks, but I'd 
love to see this one come to pass. Apple buying Adobe would be a great thing. 
Lots of publicly available information supports Cringley's speculations, but it 
still seems like a long shot. 
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20060427.html

Imagine this office suite
FrameMaker (unstructured version)
spreadsheet as yet unknown, but maybe adapted from AppleWorks
Keynote
FileMaker Pro 
Acrobat suite (with Flash)

One gets the warm fuzzies.

- web



Wow, if this came to pass?!?!?!

2006-04-29 Thread Dov Isaacs
That piece is total and ridiculous speculation on his
part. And it just won't happen! A very large number of
Adobe employees would refuse to work in tyrannical, 
cultish environment encouraged by Apple's management.
Nor would they work for Microsoft (stated to stave off
the usual crew of paranoids on this list) for similar
reasons.

- Dov



> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com]
>  On Behalf Of Bill Briggs
> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 5:08 PM
> To: List, Framers
> Subject: Wow, if this came to pass?!?!?!
> 
> Cringley has been really out on a limb the last two or three 
> weeks, but I'd love to see this one come to pass. Apple 
> buying Adobe would be a great thing. Lots of publicly 
> available information supports Cringley's speculations, but 
> it still seems like a long shot. 
> http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20060427.html
> 
> Imagine this office suite
> FrameMaker (unstructured version)
> spreadsheet as yet unknown, but maybe adapted from AppleWorks
> Keynote
> FileMaker Pro 
> Acrobat suite (with Flash)
> 
> One gets the warm fuzzies.
> 
> - web
>