Your callout philosophy

2008-12-17 Thread Nancy Allison

I am working on a document that currently has both paragraph tags for 
callouts, and character tags.

I can create callouts either by:

--Creating a text box in the figure, entering text, and formatting it 
with a callout paragraph tag. I prefer this. Makes it easy to widen or 
narrow the callout text.

--Using the Text tool to enter text, and formatting it with a character 
tag. If the text needs to be expanded or edited, all repositioning of 
text must be done manually. A pain.

However, I could be missing something. How do you create your callouts, 
and why?

Thanks!

--Nancy
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Re: Your callout philosophy

2008-12-17 Thread Stuart Rogers
Nancy Allison wrote:
 I am working on a document that currently has both paragraph tags for 
 callouts, and character tags.
 
 I can create callouts either by:
 
 --Creating a text box in the figure, entering text, and formatting it 
 with a callout paragraph tag. I prefer this. Makes it easy to widen or 
 narrow the callout text.
 
 --Using the Text tool to enter text, and formatting it with a character 
 tag. If the text needs to be expanded or edited, all repositioning of 
 text must be done manually. A pain.
 
 However, I could be missing something. How do you create your callouts, 
 and why?
 

I used to use text boxes with single-cell tables containing para-tagged 
text, for ease of borders/shading/spacing, fonts, etc.  But now that I 
am writing with translation/localization in mind, I put only consecutive 
numbers in those table cells and put the explanatory text below the 
figure in a separate table or caption.  The translated text can grow or 
shrink as much as necessary without messing up the callouts.


-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

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Re: Your callout philosophy

2008-12-17 Thread Art Campbell
I think Stuart's method is the way to go; only thing I do differently
is use letters in the graphic.

This also saves time by eliminating having to alter the graphic or the
frame contentswhen something changes -- all the changes are in the
text.

Art


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On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Stuart Rogers
srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote:
 Nancy Allison wrote:
 I am working on a document that currently has both paragraph tags for
 callouts, and character tags.

 I can create callouts either by:

 --Creating a text box in the figure, entering text, and formatting it
 with a callout paragraph tag. I prefer this. Makes it easy to widen or
 narrow the callout text.

 --Using the Text tool to enter text, and formatting it with a character
 tag. If the text needs to be expanded or edited, all repositioning of
 text must be done manually. A pain.

 However, I could be missing something. How do you create your callouts,
 and why?


 I used to use text boxes with single-cell tables containing para-tagged
 text, for ease of borders/shading/spacing, fonts, etc.  But now that I
 am writing with translation/localization in mind, I put only consecutive
 numbers in those table cells and put the explanatory text below the
 figure in a separate table or caption.  The translated text can grow or
 shrink as much as necessary without messing up the callouts.


 --
 Stuart Rogers
 Technical Communicator
 Phoenix Geophysics Limited
 Toronto, ON, Canada
 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

 srogers phoenix-geophysics com

 A man's screech should exceed his rasp, or what's a violin for?

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Re: Your callout philosophy

2008-12-17 Thread Nancy Allison

Another good reason to do it Stuart's way! I'm amazed that I hadn't been 
aware of this consideration, it seems so obvious now that it's pointed 
out.

--Nancy

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at  2:59 PM, Art Campbell wrote:


 This also saves time by eliminating having to alter the graphic or the
 frame contentswhen something changes -- all the changes are in the
 text.

 Art
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RE: Your callout philosophy

2008-12-17 Thread Diane Gaskill
Nancy, it there is even a remote possibility that your docs will be
localized, definitily put the callouts in text frames.  That way, they
become part of the body text flow and will show up on the translators
workbench screen.  Otherwise, they have to be done individually and it will
cost you a lot more and take more time.

Regards,
Diane
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I am working on a document that currently has both paragraph tags for
callouts, and character tags.

I can create callouts either by:

--Creating a text box in the figure, entering text, and formatting it
with a callout paragraph tag. I prefer this. Makes it easy to widen or
narrow the callout text.

--Using the Text tool to enter text, and formatting it with a character
tag. If the text needs to be expanded or edited, all repositioning of
text must be done manually. A pain.

However, I could be missing something. How do you create your callouts,
and why?

Thanks!

--Nancy
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Re: Your callout philosophy

2008-12-17 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Nancy,

I prefer using a text box for the reasons you mentioned. Also, you can use 
variables, cross-references, etc., in the text.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
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 I am working on a document that currently has both paragraph tags for
 callouts, and character tags.

 I can create callouts either by:

 --Creating a text box in the figure, entering text, and formatting it
 with a callout paragraph tag. I prefer this. Makes it easy to widen or
 narrow the callout text.

 --Using the Text tool to enter text, and formatting it with a character
 tag. If the text needs to be expanded or edited, all repositioning of
 text must be done manually. A pain.

 However, I could be missing something. How do you create your callouts,
 and why?

 Thanks!

 --Nancy
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RE: Your callout philosophy

2008-12-17 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Nancy,

I create a text box and use a paragraph tag to format the text. 


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Subject: Your callout philosophy


I am working on a document that currently has both paragraph tags for 
callouts, and character tags.

I can create callouts either by:

--Creating a text box in the figure, entering text, and formatting it 
with a callout paragraph tag. I prefer this. Makes it easy to widen or 
narrow the callout text.

--Using the Text tool to enter text, and formatting it with a character 
tag. If the text needs to be expanded or edited, all repositioning of 
text must be done manually. A pain.

However, I could be missing something. How do you create your callouts, 
and why?

Thanks!

--Nancy
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Your callout philosophy

2008-12-17 Thread Nancy Allison

I am working on a document that currently has both paragraph tags for 
callouts, and character tags.

I can create callouts either by:

--Creating a text box in the figure, entering text, and formatting it 
with a callout paragraph tag. I prefer this. Makes it easy to widen or 
narrow the callout text.

--Using the Text tool to enter text, and formatting it with a character 
tag. If the text needs to be expanded or edited, all repositioning of 
text must be done manually. A pain.

However, I could be missing something. How do you create your callouts, 
and why?

Thanks!

--Nancy


Your callout philosophy

2008-12-17 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Nancy,

I prefer using a text box for the reasons you mentioned. Also, you can use 
variables, cross-references, etc., in the text.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


>
> I am working on a document that currently has both paragraph tags for
> callouts, and character tags.
>
> I can create callouts either by:
>
> --Creating a text box in the figure, entering text, and formatting it
> with a callout paragraph tag. I prefer this. Makes it easy to widen or
> narrow the callout text.
>
> --Using the Text tool to enter text, and formatting it with a character
> tag. If the text needs to be expanded or edited, all repositioning of
> text must be done manually. A pain.
>
> However, I could be missing something. How do you create your callouts,
> and why?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --Nancy
> ___



Your callout philosophy

2008-12-17 Thread Stuart Rogers
Nancy Allison wrote:
> I am working on a document that currently has both paragraph tags for 
> callouts, and character tags.
> 
> I can create callouts either by:
> 
> --Creating a text box in the figure, entering text, and formatting it 
> with a callout paragraph tag. I prefer this. Makes it easy to widen or 
> narrow the callout text.
> 
> --Using the Text tool to enter text, and formatting it with a character 
> tag. If the text needs to be expanded or edited, all repositioning of 
> text must be done manually. A pain.
> 
> However, I could be missing something. How do you create your callouts, 
> and why?
> 

I used to use text boxes with single-cell tables containing para-tagged 
text, for ease of borders/shading/spacing, fonts, etc.  But now that I 
am writing with translation/localization in mind, I put only consecutive 
numbers in those table cells and put the explanatory text below the 
figure in a separate table or caption.  The translated text can grow or 
shrink as much as necessary without messing up the callouts.


-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

"A man's screech should exceed his rasp, or what's a violin for?"

--another Rogers Original


Your callout philosophy

2008-12-17 Thread Art Campbell
I think Stuart's method is the way to go; only thing I do differently
is use letters in the graphic.

This also saves time by eliminating having to alter the graphic or the
frame contentswhen something changes -- all the changes are in the
text.

Art


Art Campbell
  art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Stuart Rogers
 wrote:
> Nancy Allison wrote:
>> I am working on a document that currently has both paragraph tags for
>> callouts, and character tags.
>>
>> I can create callouts either by:
>>
>> --Creating a text box in the figure, entering text, and formatting it
>> with a callout paragraph tag. I prefer this. Makes it easy to widen or
>> narrow the callout text.
>>
>> --Using the Text tool to enter text, and formatting it with a character
>> tag. If the text needs to be expanded or edited, all repositioning of
>> text must be done manually. A pain.
>>
>> However, I could be missing something. How do you create your callouts,
>> and why?
>>
>
> I used to use text boxes with single-cell tables containing para-tagged
> text, for ease of borders/shading/spacing, fonts, etc.  But now that I
> am writing with translation/localization in mind, I put only consecutive
> numbers in those table cells and put the explanatory text below the
> figure in a separate table or caption.  The translated text can grow or
> shrink as much as necessary without messing up the callouts.
>
>
> --
> Stuart Rogers
> Technical Communicator
> Phoenix Geophysics Limited
> Toronto, ON, Canada
> +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
>
> srogers phoenix-geophysics com
>
> "A man's screech should exceed his rasp, or what's a violin for?"
>
> --another Rogers Original
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Your callout philosophy

2008-12-17 Thread Nancy Allison

Another good reason to do it Stuart's way! I'm amazed that I hadn't been 
aware of this consideration, it seems so obvious now that it's pointed 
out.

--Nancy

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at  2:59 PM, Art Campbell wrote:


> This also saves time by eliminating having to alter the graphic or the
> frame contentswhen something changes -- all the changes are in the
> text.
>
> Art


Your callout philosophy

2008-12-17 Thread Diane Gaskill
Nancy, it there is even a remote possibility that your docs will be
localized, definitily put the callouts in text frames.  That way, they
become part of the body text flow and will show up on the translators
workbench screen.  Otherwise, they have to be done individually and it will
cost you a lot more and take more time.

Regards,
Diane
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Subject: Your callout philosophy



I am working on a document that currently has both paragraph tags for
callouts, and character tags.

I can create callouts either by:

--Creating a text box in the figure, entering text, and formatting it
with a callout paragraph tag. I prefer this. Makes it easy to widen or
narrow the callout text.

--Using the Text tool to enter text, and formatting it with a character
tag. If the text needs to be expanded or edited, all repositioning of
text must be done manually. A pain.

However, I could be missing something. How do you create your callouts,
and why?

Thanks!

--Nancy
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Your callout philosophy

2008-12-17 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Nancy,

I create a text box and use a paragraph tag to format the text. 


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Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:41 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Your callout philosophy


I am working on a document that currently has both paragraph tags for 
callouts, and character tags.

I can create callouts either by:

--Creating a text box in the figure, entering text, and formatting it 
with a callout paragraph tag. I prefer this. Makes it easy to widen or 
narrow the callout text.

--Using the Text tool to enter text, and formatting it with a character 
tag. If the text needs to be expanded or edited, all repositioning of 
text must be done manually. A pain.

However, I could be missing something. How do you create your callouts, 
and why?

Thanks!

--Nancy
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