Your callout philosophy
I am working on a document that currently has both paragraph tags for callouts, and character tags. I can create callouts either by: --Creating a text box in the figure, entering text, and formatting it with a callout paragraph tag. I prefer this. Makes it easy to widen or narrow the callout text. --Using the Text tool to enter text, and formatting it with a character tag. If the text needs to be expanded or edited, all repositioning of text must be done manually. A pain. However, I could be missing something. How do you create your callouts, and why? Thanks! --Nancy ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Your callout philosophy
Nancy Allison wrote: I am working on a document that currently has both paragraph tags for callouts, and character tags. I can create callouts either by: --Creating a text box in the figure, entering text, and formatting it with a callout paragraph tag. I prefer this. Makes it easy to widen or narrow the callout text. --Using the Text tool to enter text, and formatting it with a character tag. If the text needs to be expanded or edited, all repositioning of text must be done manually. A pain. However, I could be missing something. How do you create your callouts, and why? I used to use text boxes with single-cell tables containing para-tagged text, for ease of borders/shading/spacing, fonts, etc. But now that I am writing with translation/localization in mind, I put only consecutive numbers in those table cells and put the explanatory text below the figure in a separate table or caption. The translated text can grow or shrink as much as necessary without messing up the callouts. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com A man's screech should exceed his rasp, or what's a violin for? --another Rogers Original ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Your callout philosophy
I think Stuart's method is the way to go; only thing I do differently is use letters in the graphic. This also saves time by eliminating having to alter the graphic or the frame contentswhen something changes -- all the changes are in the text. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: Nancy Allison wrote: I am working on a document that currently has both paragraph tags for callouts, and character tags. I can create callouts either by: --Creating a text box in the figure, entering text, and formatting it with a callout paragraph tag. I prefer this. Makes it easy to widen or narrow the callout text. --Using the Text tool to enter text, and formatting it with a character tag. If the text needs to be expanded or edited, all repositioning of text must be done manually. A pain. However, I could be missing something. How do you create your callouts, and why? I used to use text boxes with single-cell tables containing para-tagged text, for ease of borders/shading/spacing, fonts, etc. But now that I am writing with translation/localization in mind, I put only consecutive numbers in those table cells and put the explanatory text below the figure in a separate table or caption. The translated text can grow or shrink as much as necessary without messing up the callouts. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com A man's screech should exceed his rasp, or what's a violin for? --another Rogers Original ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Your callout philosophy
Another good reason to do it Stuart's way! I'm amazed that I hadn't been aware of this consideration, it seems so obvious now that it's pointed out. --Nancy On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Art Campbell wrote: This also saves time by eliminating having to alter the graphic or the frame contentswhen something changes -- all the changes are in the text. Art ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Your callout philosophy
Nancy, it there is even a remote possibility that your docs will be localized, definitily put the callouts in text frames. That way, they become part of the body text flow and will show up on the translators workbench screen. Otherwise, they have to be done individually and it will cost you a lot more and take more time. Regards, Diane = -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]on Behalf Of Nancy Allison Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:41 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Your callout philosophy I am working on a document that currently has both paragraph tags for callouts, and character tags. I can create callouts either by: --Creating a text box in the figure, entering text, and formatting it with a callout paragraph tag. I prefer this. Makes it easy to widen or narrow the callout text. --Using the Text tool to enter text, and formatting it with a character tag. If the text needs to be expanded or edited, all repositioning of text must be done manually. A pain. However, I could be missing something. How do you create your callouts, and why? Thanks! --Nancy ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as dgcal...@earthlink.net. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dgcaller%40earthlink.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Your callout philosophy
Hi Nancy, I prefer using a text box for the reasons you mentioned. Also, you can use variables, cross-references, etc., in the text. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com I am working on a document that currently has both paragraph tags for callouts, and character tags. I can create callouts either by: --Creating a text box in the figure, entering text, and formatting it with a callout paragraph tag. I prefer this. Makes it easy to widen or narrow the callout text. --Using the Text tool to enter text, and formatting it with a character tag. If the text needs to be expanded or edited, all repositioning of text must be done manually. A pain. However, I could be missing something. How do you create your callouts, and why? Thanks! --Nancy ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Your callout philosophy
Nancy, I create a text box and use a paragraph tag to format the text. ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:41 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Your callout philosophy I am working on a document that currently has both paragraph tags for callouts, and character tags. I can create callouts either by: --Creating a text box in the figure, entering text, and formatting it with a callout paragraph tag. I prefer this. Makes it easy to widen or narrow the callout text. --Using the Text tool to enter text, and formatting it with a character tag. If the text needs to be expanded or edited, all repositioning of text must be done manually. A pain. However, I could be missing something. How do you create your callouts, and why? Thanks! --Nancy ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as lin...@techcomplus.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/lindag%40techcomplus.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Your callout philosophy
I am working on a document that currently has both paragraph tags for callouts, and character tags. I can create callouts either by: --Creating a text box in the figure, entering text, and formatting it with a callout paragraph tag. I prefer this. Makes it easy to widen or narrow the callout text. --Using the Text tool to enter text, and formatting it with a character tag. If the text needs to be expanded or edited, all repositioning of text must be done manually. A pain. However, I could be missing something. How do you create your callouts, and why? Thanks! --Nancy
Your callout philosophy
Hi Nancy, I prefer using a text box for the reasons you mentioned. Also, you can use variables, cross-references, etc., in the text. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com > > I am working on a document that currently has both paragraph tags for > callouts, and character tags. > > I can create callouts either by: > > --Creating a text box in the figure, entering text, and formatting it > with a callout paragraph tag. I prefer this. Makes it easy to widen or > narrow the callout text. > > --Using the Text tool to enter text, and formatting it with a character > tag. If the text needs to be expanded or edited, all repositioning of > text must be done manually. A pain. > > However, I could be missing something. How do you create your callouts, > and why? > > Thanks! > > --Nancy > ___
Your callout philosophy
Nancy Allison wrote: > I am working on a document that currently has both paragraph tags for > callouts, and character tags. > > I can create callouts either by: > > --Creating a text box in the figure, entering text, and formatting it > with a callout paragraph tag. I prefer this. Makes it easy to widen or > narrow the callout text. > > --Using the Text tool to enter text, and formatting it with a character > tag. If the text needs to be expanded or edited, all repositioning of > text must be done manually. A pain. > > However, I could be missing something. How do you create your callouts, > and why? > I used to use text boxes with single-cell tables containing para-tagged text, for ease of borders/shading/spacing, fonts, etc. But now that I am writing with translation/localization in mind, I put only consecutive numbers in those table cells and put the explanatory text below the figure in a separate table or caption. The translated text can grow or shrink as much as necessary without messing up the callouts. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "A man's screech should exceed his rasp, or what's a violin for?" --another Rogers Original
Your callout philosophy
I think Stuart's method is the way to go; only thing I do differently is use letters in the graphic. This also saves time by eliminating having to alter the graphic or the frame contentswhen something changes -- all the changes are in the text. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Stuart Rogers wrote: > Nancy Allison wrote: >> I am working on a document that currently has both paragraph tags for >> callouts, and character tags. >> >> I can create callouts either by: >> >> --Creating a text box in the figure, entering text, and formatting it >> with a callout paragraph tag. I prefer this. Makes it easy to widen or >> narrow the callout text. >> >> --Using the Text tool to enter text, and formatting it with a character >> tag. If the text needs to be expanded or edited, all repositioning of >> text must be done manually. A pain. >> >> However, I could be missing something. How do you create your callouts, >> and why? >> > > I used to use text boxes with single-cell tables containing para-tagged > text, for ease of borders/shading/spacing, fonts, etc. But now that I > am writing with translation/localization in mind, I put only consecutive > numbers in those table cells and put the explanatory text below the > figure in a separate table or caption. The translated text can grow or > shrink as much as necessary without messing up the callouts. > > > -- > Stuart Rogers > Technical Communicator > Phoenix Geophysics Limited > Toronto, ON, Canada > +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 > > srogers phoenix-geophysics com > > "A man's screech should exceed his rasp, or what's a violin for?" > > --another Rogers Original > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Your callout philosophy
Another good reason to do it Stuart's way! I'm amazed that I hadn't been aware of this consideration, it seems so obvious now that it's pointed out. --Nancy On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Art Campbell wrote: > This also saves time by eliminating having to alter the graphic or the > frame contentswhen something changes -- all the changes are in the > text. > > Art
Your callout philosophy
Nancy, it there is even a remote possibility that your docs will be localized, definitily put the callouts in text frames. That way, they become part of the body text flow and will show up on the translators workbench screen. Otherwise, they have to be done individually and it will cost you a lot more and take more time. Regards, Diane = -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Nancy Allison Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:41 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Your callout philosophy I am working on a document that currently has both paragraph tags for callouts, and character tags. I can create callouts either by: --Creating a text box in the figure, entering text, and formatting it with a callout paragraph tag. I prefer this. Makes it easy to widen or narrow the callout text. --Using the Text tool to enter text, and formatting it with a character tag. If the text needs to be expanded or edited, all repositioning of text must be done manually. A pain. However, I could be missing something. How do you create your callouts, and why? Thanks! --Nancy ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as dgcaller at earthlink.net. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dgcaller%40earthlink.net Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Your callout philosophy
Nancy, I create a text box and use a paragraph tag to format the text. ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:41 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Your callout philosophy I am working on a document that currently has both paragraph tags for callouts, and character tags. I can create callouts either by: --Creating a text box in the figure, entering text, and formatting it with a callout paragraph tag. I prefer this. Makes it easy to widen or narrow the callout text. --Using the Text tool to enter text, and formatting it with a character tag. If the text needs to be expanded or edited, all repositioning of text must be done manually. A pain. However, I could be missing something. How do you create your callouts, and why? Thanks! --Nancy ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as lindag at techcomplus.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/lindag%40techcomplus.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.